webfact Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Trump: Asian-Americans not responsible for virus, need protection FILE PHOTO: U.S. President Donald Trump arrives for the coronavirus response daily briefing with members of the administration's coronavirus task force at the White House in Washington, U.S., March 23, 2020. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump, who has been accused of racism in labeling the coronavirus pandemic the "Chinese virus," said on Monday that Asian-Americans were not responsible for spreading the disease and needed to be protected. Earlier on Monday, the New York Times cited advocacy groups and researchers as saying there had been a surge of verbal and physical assaults on Asian-Americans reported in newspapers and to tip lines as the virus has taken hold in the United States. Trump last week ratcheted up his rhetoric against China over the coronavirus, saying Beijing should have acted faster to warn the world after the disease outbreak there. He also dismissed criticism that his labeling it the "Chinese virus" was racist. He brushed aside a reporter's question on Wednesday as to whether it was potentially harmful to Asian-Americans to give the disease that name, as well for an unnamed White House official to have privately termed it the "kung flu." On Monday, Trump tweeted: "It is very important that we totally protect our Asian American community in the United States, and all around the world. "They are amazing people, and the spreading of the Virus.... is NOT their fault in any way, shape, or form. They are working closely with us to get rid of it. "WE WILL PREVAIL TOGETHER!" Trump repeated his remarks at a news conference with his coronavirus task force. Asked what prompted them, he replied: "It seems that there could be a little bit of nasty language toward the Asian-Americans in our country and I don't like that at all ... so I just wanted to make that point, because they're blaming China, and they are making statements to great American citizens that happened to be of Asian heritage, and I'm not gonna let that happen." Trump has repeatedly criticized China and its handling of the coronavirus outbreak, but he has been careful to avoid criticisms of its president, Xi Jinping. On Friday, Trump said he greatly respected China and Xi, but added it was unfortunate the coronavirus began in China and got out of control. U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Beijing's delay in sharing information about the virus had created risks for people worldwide. At the same time, Trump and his administration have angrily rejected attempts by some Chinese officials to blame the virus on the U.S. military. The dispute is just the latest irritant in relations between the world two largest economies already strained by issues ranging from trade to press freedom. Speaking to AXIOS and HBO over the weekend, China's ambassador to Washington appeared to distance himself from a foreign ministry spokesman who blamed the U.S. military for the virus, saying its origin was for scientists to determine, not diplomats. Cui Tiankai said the United States and China needed to work together to combat the virus and he hoped people would follow World Health Organization rules and avoid creating a stigma by linking the virus to a particular location. (Reporting by David Brunnstrom; Additional reportng by Matt Spetalnick; Editing by Tom Brown and Cynthia Osterman) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-03-24 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 5 hours ago, webfact said: its origin was for scientists to determine, not diplomats. or TVF posters. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 "there had been a surge of verbal and physical assaults on Asian-Americans reported in newspapers" How is it possible. there are really crazy people everywhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobodysfriend Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 6 hours ago, webfact said: At the same time, Trump and his administration have angrily rejected attempts by some Chinese officials to blame the virus on the U.S. military. No doubt about where the virus originated from . The seafood market in Wuhan . They slaughtered a wild animal , probably a pangolin , ( protected species ! ) , in front of a customer . The pangolin carried the virus and the pangolin's blood infected people nearby . The conspiracy theories that are appearing now are BS . 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted March 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2020 Trump makes race baits a central part of his response to this Pandemic and then feigns concern over the resulting racist attacks. 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sydebolle Posted March 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2020 I'm not Trump's friend but the gentleman is right, it is correctly labelled the "Chinese Virus". Nobody has the guts to call it by its name but H1N1, H5N1 and SARS, together with the Corona/Covid-19 virus all came from ......... China. Turning into a political correctness discussion is as stupid as the question by the responsible reporter. It originated in China! What else should it be called, the non-American-across-the-Pacific-originating-virus-not-from-Japan-the Koreas-but-North/Northeast-from-the Socialist Republic of Vietnam? Total nonsense, time wasting and irrelevant to the fight against the pandemic! 5 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sirineou Posted March 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Sydebolle said: I'm not Trump's friend but the gentleman is right, it is correctly labelled the "Chinese Virus". Nobody has the guts to call it by its name but H1N1, H5N1 and SARS, together with the Corona/Covid-19 virus all came from ......... China. Turning into a political correctness discussion is as stupid as the question by the responsible reporter. It originated in China! What else should it be called, the non-American-across-the-Pacific-originating-virus-not-from-Japan-the Koreas-but-North/Northeast-from-the Socialist Republic of Vietnam? Total nonsense, time wasting and irrelevant to the fight against the pandemic! So from now on we will label viruses from where they originated and not for what they are? Why is that ? is it more important for people to know where it originated than what the virus is??? Do you not realise that associating a disease with a set of people can have negative repercussions for those people while accomplishing nothing positive? Edited March 24, 2020 by sirineou typo 4 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted March 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, Sydebolle said: I'm not Trump's friend but the gentleman is right, it is correctly labelled the "Chinese Virus". Nobody has the guts to call it by its name but H1N1, H5N1 and SARS, together with the Corona/Covid-19 virus all came from ......... China. Turning into a political correctness discussion is as stupid as the question by the responsible reporter. It originated in China! What else should it be called, the non-American-across-the-Pacific-originating-virus-not-from-Japan-the Koreas-but-North/Northeast-from-the Socialist Republic of Vietnam? Total nonsense, time wasting and irrelevant to the fight against the pandemic! “What else should it be called, the non-American-across-the-Pacific-originating-virus-not-from-Japan-the Koreas-but-North/Northeast-from-the Socialist Republic of Vietnam? “ The world’s health professionals are calling it Coronavirus/COVID-19. I’ll go with what they think and skip race baiting suggestions from the WH. 5 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobodysfriend Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: “What else should it be called, the non-American-across-the-Pacific-originating-virus-not-from-Japan-the Koreas-but-North/Northeast-from-the Socialist Republic of Vietnam? “ The world’s health professionals are calling it Coronavirus/COVID-19. I’ll go with what they think and skip race baiting suggestions from the WH. Covid or “severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2)” Sars , does that not ring a bell ...? We had the Sars virus already , This is Sars No. 2 ... and much more destructive than the No. 1 . Sars No.3 will be worse ... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted March 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 minute ago, nobodysfriend said: Covid or “severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2)” Sars , does that not ring a bell ...? We had the Sars virus already , This is Sars No. 2 ... and much more destructive than the No. 1 . Sars No.3 will be worse ... Yes Dr of course Dr. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobodysfriend Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Just now, Chomper Higgot said: Yes Dr of course Dr. Wait and see ... if you have the time ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nyezhov Posted March 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2020 Because its the Chinese Virus doesnt mean that folks should be dissing on so called Asian Americans (i just call them Americans), assuming thats even happening, as we all know how hoaxy these racial attacks are, dont we Jesse. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nobodysfriend Posted March 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2020 28 minutes ago, sirineou said: than what the virus is??? A virus is a small infectious agent that replicates only inside the living cells of an organism. https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-not-human-made-in-lab.html The coronavirus did not escape from a lab. Here's how we know. ---- One persistent myth is that this virus, called SARS-CoV-2, was made by scientists and escaped from a lab in Wuhan, China, where the outbreak began. A new analysis of SARS-CoV-2 may finally put that latter idea to bed. A group of researchers compared the genome of this novel coronavirus with the seven other coronaviruses known to infect humans: SARS, MERS and SARS-CoV-2, which can cause severe disease; along with HKU1, NL63, OC43 and 229E, which typically cause just mild symptoms, Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus . ----- 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted March 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, Nyezhov said: Because its the Chinese Virus doesnt mean that folks should be dissing on so called Asian Americans (i just call them Americans), assuming thats even happening, as we all know how hoaxy these racial attacks are, dont we Jesse. It’s not ‘the Chinese Virus’. You are confusing race baiting tropes spewed by Trump with the actual scientific name used by the world’s health professionals. I can’t imagine why you would be so confused over such a simple distinction. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GSFISM Posted March 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2020 54 minutes ago, Sydebolle said: I'm not Trump's friend but the gentleman is right, it is correctly labelled the "Chinese Virus". Nobody has the guts to call it by its name but H1N1, H5N1 and SARS, together with the Corona/Covid-19 virus all came from ......... China. Turning into a political correctness discussion is as stupid as the question by the responsible reporter. It originated in China! What else should it be called, the non-American-across-the-Pacific-originating-virus-not-from-Japan-the Koreas-but-North/Northeast-from-the Socialist Republic of Vietnam? Total nonsense, time wasting and irrelevant to the fight against the pandemic! I believe H1N1 (swine flu) actually originated from a pig farm in Mexico 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted March 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2020 I think Trump is going soft on racist attack because he want Xi to help him with the medical supplies and medicine. He has to turn the crisis around or he can kiss his re-election good bye and good riddance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said: A virus is a small infectious agent that replicates only inside the living cells of an organism. https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-not-human-made-in-lab.html The coronavirus did not escape from a lab. Here's how we know. ---- One persistent myth is that this virus, called SARS-CoV-2, was made by scientists and escaped from a lab in Wuhan, China, where the outbreak began. A new analysis of SARS-CoV-2 may finally put that latter idea to bed. A group of researchers compared the genome of this novel coronavirus with the seven other coronaviruses known to infect humans: SARS, MERS and SARS-CoV-2, which can cause severe disease; along with HKU1, NL63, OC43 and 229E, which typically cause just mild symptoms, Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus . ----- taking a sniped of a post out of context is not helpful to anyone. I know what a virus is. You don't really think I proposed that in the name of every virus we included an explanation of what a virus is?? do you? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acrylic Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Sydebolle said: I'm not Trump's friend but the gentleman is right, it is correctly labelled the "Chinese Virus". Nobody has the guts to call it by its name but H1N1, H5N1 and SARS, together with the Corona/Covid-19 virus all came from ......... China. Turning into a political correctness discussion is as stupid as the question by the responsible reporter. It originated in China! What else should it be called, the non-American-across-the-Pacific-originating-virus-not-from-Japan-the Koreas-but-North/Northeast-from-the Socialist Republic of Vietnam? Total nonsense, time wasting and irrelevant to the fight against the pandemic! Pretty racism over there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nyezhov Posted March 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2020 35 minutes ago, rhyddid said: Before he made his voters hate asian and chinese, now try to minimize, what a clown ! I dont hate Asians, except for my ex wife, and I dont need anyone to "make" me hate the Chinese government. But I think for myself, not just parrot the same old same old 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 only one word comes to mind: coward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johnnybangkok Posted March 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Sydebolle said: I'm not Trump's friend but the gentleman is right, it is correctly labelled the "Chinese Virus". Nobody has the guts to call it by its name but H1N1, H5N1 and SARS, together with the Corona/Covid-19 virus all came from ......... China. Turning into a political correctness discussion is as stupid as the question by the responsible reporter. It originated in China! What else should it be called, the non-American-across-the-Pacific-originating-virus-not-from-Japan-the Koreas-but-North/Northeast-from-the Socialist Republic of Vietnam? Total nonsense, time wasting and irrelevant to the fight against the pandemic! By your own logical fallacy I'll help you re-name a few other diseases:- Argentinian foot and mouth Mexican Swine Flu French Syphilis German Gonorrhea West African Aids Indian small pox In could go on but I think you get the point. Stigmatising a country for being unfortunate enough to originate a major disease only adds to xenaphobia and provides no constructive narrative on how to combat it. But hey, when has being nice to foreigners been high on Trumps agenda. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Sydebolle said: I'm not Trump's friend but the gentleman is right, it is correctly labelled the "Chinese Virus". Nobody has the guts to call it by its name but H1N1, H5N1 and SARS, together with the Corona/Covid-19 virus all came from ......... China. Turning into a political correctness discussion is as stupid as the question by the responsible reporter. It originated in China! What else should it be called, the non-American-across-the-Pacific-originating-virus-not-from-Japan-the Koreas-but-North/Northeast-from-the Socialist Republic of Vietnam? Total nonsense, time wasting and irrelevant to the fight against the pandemic! Well said Don. VID-20200324-WA0006.mp4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Eric Loh said: I think Trump is going soft on racist attack because he want Xi to help him with the medical supplies and medicine. He has to turn the crisis around or he can kiss his re-election good bye and good riddance. Trump followers got the message loud and clear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Opl Posted March 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2020 17 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said: By your own logical fallacy I'll help you re-name a few other diseases:- Argentinian foot and mouth Mexican Swine Flu French Syphilis German Gonorrhea West African Aids Indian small pox In could go on but I think you get the point. Stigmatising a country for being unfortunate enough to originate a major disease only adds to xenaphobia and provides no constructive narrative on how to combat it. But hey, when has being nice to foreigners been high on Trumps agenda. US Subprimes 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 hour ago, wabothai said: only one word comes to mind: coward. Actually two words come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dexterm Posted March 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2020 5 hours ago, Sydebolle said: I'm not Trump's friend but the gentleman is right, it is correctly labelled the "Chinese Virus". Nobody has the guts to call it by its name but H1N1, H5N1 and SARS, together with the Corona/Covid-19 virus all came from ......... China. Turning into a political correctness discussion is as stupid as the question by the responsible reporter. It originated in China! What else should it be called, the non-American-across-the-Pacific-originating-virus-not-from-Japan-the Koreas-but-North/Northeast-from-the Socialist Republic of Vietnam? Total nonsense, time wasting and irrelevant to the fight against the pandemic! But what is your motive in obsessively wanting to call it the "Chinese virus"? Pedantry or racism? Why not simply call it "corona virus"..something that won't draw racists' attention to any part of the community? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, dexterm said: 6 hours ago, Sydebolle said: I'm not Trump's friend but the gentleman is right, it is correctly labelled the "Chinese Virus". Nobody has the guts to call it by its name but H1N1, H5N1 and SARS, together with the Corona/Covid-19 virus all came from ......... China. Turning into a political correctness discussion is as stupid as the question by the responsible reporter. It originated in China! What else should it be called, the non-American-across-the-Pacific-originating-virus-not-from-Japan-the Koreas-but-North/Northeast-from-the Socialist Republic of Vietnam? Total nonsense, time wasting and irrelevant to the fight against the pandemic! But what is your motive in obsessively wanting to call it the "Chinese virus"? Pedantry or racism? Why not simply call it "corona virus"..something that won't draw racists' attention to any part of the community According to his racist reasoning, from now own the Ebola Virus should be called the African Virus. Edited March 24, 2020 by sirineou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundooman Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 16 hours ago, nobodysfriend said: No doubt about where the virus originated from . The seafood market in Wuhan . They slaughtered a wild animal , probably a pangolin , ( protected species ! ) , in front of a customer . The pangolin carried the virus and the pangolin's blood infected people nearby . The conspiracy theories that are appearing now are BS . Do you happen to know exactly which pangolin was the animal slaughtered? Or the exact customer it was killed in front of? Who, just for interest you understand, was the person who recorded, observed this one act of normalised market shopping in Asia, that identified who or what caused this virus? Just so we all have no doubt about its origin...…... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 15 hours ago, Sydebolle said: I'm not Trump's friend but the gentleman is right, it is correctly labelled the "Chinese Virus". Nobody has the guts to call it by its name but H1N1, H5N1 and SARS, together with the Corona/Covid-19 virus all came from ......... China. Turning into a political correctness discussion is as stupid as the question by the responsible reporter. It originated in China! What else should it be called, the non-American-across-the-Pacific-originating-virus-not-from-Japan-the Koreas-but-North/Northeast-from-the Socialist Republic of Vietnam? Total nonsense, time wasting and irrelevant to the fight against the pandemic! Since when has it been a regular practice to label viruses by where they originate? Why this particular one now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobodysfriend Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 28 minutes ago, Bundooman said: Do you happen to know exactly which pangolin was the animal slaughtered? Or the exact customer it was killed in front of? Who, just for interest you understand, was the person who recorded, observed this one act of normalised market shopping in Asia, that identified who or what caused this virus? Just so we all have no doubt about its origin...…... .Do you happen to know exactly which pangolin was the animal slaughtered? Or the exact customer it was killed in front of? = IRRELEVANT ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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