U.S. records 700 coronavirus deaths in a single day for first time

[Selatan]

18 hours ago, Coremouse said:

3. Nature Medicine already published several article states virus are naturally evolved and not man-made. Personally I don't buy either conspiracy US say China P4 or Chinese say US mil fort leak. And as this epidemic IS a natural disaster, how could one ask another country for reparation of a natural disaster? 

Also, the bat coronavirus that is closest to this new virus lacked the ability to infect humans. 

I doubt any country could claim reparation even for a man-made disaster. Or else Singapore, Malaysia and Thailand could seek damages from Indonesia for its yearly plantation fires. Seeking justice at the International Court of Justice (ICJ) requires the offending party to agree to be tried. If China could be successfully sued, then Iraq should demand war reparation from the US for waging an illegal war on Iraq.

[Tug]

Instead of attacking and blamestorming how about cooperating and brainstorming?it doesent matter were it started the key is the response unfortunately it’s going to get worse much worse before it gets better stay safe stay healthy help one another 

[metisdead]

An off topic post has been removed. 

[Pravda]

On 4/1/2020 at 5:24 AM, Tayaout said:

So now it's the third cause of death in the US per day. Way ahead of influenza, more than car accidents and the total exceed 9/11 which started multiple wars. Just a flu bro? 

 

https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/1712761/?fbclid=IwAR1ssiUAJoI6Ex0CX9vO3BSydbwkmjMXpbBxD34xXySrv4maApCSC0i_m7E

 

This chart makes no sense.

 

Why are only covid cases moving, but every other disease stays the same?

[Tayaout]

12 hours ago, Pravda said:

 

This chart makes no sense.

 

Why are only covid cases moving, but every other disease stays the same?

Because it shows the daily average for the other cause of mortality while covid-19 number is dynamic. We don't have sufficient data to know what is the daily average for covid-19. It's kind of a flawed chart but it explains well why the healthcare system will be overwhelmed in the short term. 

Edited April 3, 2020 by Tayaout

[lannarebirth]

Everything Andrew Yang warned you about has come to pass. America is not a resiliant country in any way, shape or form. Your leaders are impotent, as are your institutions. America is a country of careerists in government as opposed to a country of committed professionals who see their role as a sacred duty for which they are well remunerated.

 

 

 

 

Edited April 3, 2020 by lannarebirth

[bristolboy]

Here's a link to an article that explains why modeling Covid-19's course is so difficult.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-its-so-freaking-hard-to-make-a-good-covid-19-model/

And here's another to show the consequences of that:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/best-case-and-worst-case-coronavirus-forecasts-are-very-far-apart/

[Logosone]

3 hours ago, Tayaout said:

Because it shows the daily average for the other cause of mortality while covid-19 number is dynamic. We don't have sufficient data to know what is the daily average for covid-19. It's kind of a flawed chart but it explains well why the healthcare system will be overwhelmed in the short term. 

You're right it is flawed, the chart does not provide proper sources and in any event it is not flu season and it is early spring, whereas Covid19 is in full peak pandemic flow now. So obviously the daily average for Covid19 would be high now, however, at the end of the year the figures could look very different. Particularly if, as some like Levitt in the LA Times claimed, the growth in new cases will be short-lived.

[metisdead]

Off topic deflection posts and replies regarding rent/debt relief have been removed as the topic is about:

 

U.S. records 700 coronavirus deaths in a single day for first time

 

WASHINGTON/NEW YORK (Reuters) - The U.S. government raced to build hundreds of makeshift hospitals to ease the strain on overwhelmed healthcare systems as the United States marked 700 deaths in a single day from COVID-19 for the first time on Tuesday.

 

That is the equivalent of a person dying every two minutes.

 

[Tayaout]

22 minutes ago, Logosone said:

You're right it is flawed, the chart does not provide proper sources and in any event it is not flu season and it is early spring, whereas Covid19 is in full peak pandemic flow now. So obviously the daily average for Covid19 would be high now, however, at the end of the year the figures could look very different. Particularly if, as some like Levitt in the LA Times claimed, the growth in new cases will be short-lived.

The chart is maintained from someone on Reddit. The source of the data is from the CDC. 

[Logosone]

11 minutes ago, Tayaout said:

The chart is maintained from someone on Reddit. The source of the data is from the CDC. 

Some guy called Robert Martin, don't say anywhere that he is using CDC data but he may well be.

 

But in any event this data starts at 1st March until now. So it is basically taking a snapshot at a time when Covid19 is near peak mortality. Of course the real figures would be over the full 12 months and will look nothing like this.

 

This is like looking at a snapshot on a balance sheet for a month but not the 12 month version.

Edited April 3, 2020 by Logosone

[jcsmith]

21 minutes ago, Logosone said:

But in any event this data starts at 1st March until now. So it is basically taking a snapshot at a time when Covid19 is near peak mortality. Of course the real figures would be over the full 12 months and will look nothing like this.

I don't think Covid19 is anywhere near its peak mortality. It's still on the way up.

[bristolboy]

40 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

Yes, I'm aware of all of that. My point is there never seems to be 100 Million or even 5 Billion to avert a catastrophe, or make our society more resiliant, but $6 Trillion is readily at hand, without question, without reading the details, in a matter of days. And 5.85 Trillion of that was agreed by both parties even before the negotiations started. The MULTINATIONAL corporation's interests came well before the people's.

What exactly does the 6 trillion consist of? I believe you are using that fact that 500 billion can be leveraged into 4 trillion in loans. Or am I mistaken?

 

Edited April 3, 2020 by bristolboy

[lannarebirth]

13 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

What exactly does the 6 trillion consist of? I believe you are using that fact that 500 billion can be leveraged into 4 trillion in loans. Or am I mistaken?

 

 

Some of it will come from the FED to prop up companies that would otherwise go out of business, but I'll let Larry explain it:   

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/coronavirus-relief-white-house-adviser-larry-kudlow-projects-aid-package-to-reach-roughly-6-trillion/

[JDGRUEN]

On 4/2/2020 at 9:49 AM, jcsmith said:

@JDGRUEN: On March 9th, the same day that Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson tested positive for it, and the same day the NBA suspended their season Trump was still downplaying it and comparing it to the flu. And putting Mike Pence in charge of it was more of a way of removing the responsibility from himself and trying to look like he was doing something than anything else. Pence is not a health care specialist, he has no medical background. 

The reality is that Trump's efforts to downplay the virus extended to Fox News, and extended to his base. To the point that they were on social media ridiculing it, and repeating the same claims. It wasn't until it really started hitting the fan and Tucker Carlson of all people started calling out guys like Hannity that they started to take it seriously. That starts at the top. From Trump's need to downplay the virus while now trying to pretend that he always took it seriously.

And another TDS - Trump Derangement Syndrome hater fulfills his day by connecting every possible action or Non action to the U. S. President. How about weeks and months of bogus impeachment bombardment adding deleteriously  to the situation in that short span of time. As a matter of fact the time line I posted demonstrated that the Trump Administration did take it seriously. Presidents have Administrators to handle situations. But in 2009 with H1N1 the Obama Administration didn't do squat to deal with a pandemic that was much more lethal that Covid-19. But I know you will find some convoluted way of defending the do nothing Pres Obama who went golfing while the Swine flu burned bodies

[Opl]

29 minutes ago, JDGRUEN said:

And another TDS - Trump Derangement Syndrome hater fulfills his day by connecting every possible action or Non action to the U. S. President. How about weeks and months of bogus impeachment bombardment adding deleteriously  to the situation in that short span of time. As a matter of fact the time line I posted demonstrated that the Trump Administration did take it seriously. Presidents have Administrators to handle situations. But in 2009 with H1N1 the Obama Administration didn't do squat to deal with a pandemic that was much more lethal that Covid-19. But I know you will find some convoluted way of defending the do nothing Pres Obama who went golfing while the Swine flu burned bodies

H1N1 ..... "much more lethal that Covid-19" ....????? 

 

H1N1 deaths by country 2009+2010

- USA = 3433

- Italie =244

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_swine_flu_pandemic_by_country

 

COVID-19 deaths Jan-April 2 2020

- USA = 6059

- Italy: 13915 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

 

Edited April 3, 2020 by Opl

[Basil B]

If America want to compare itself with other countries then lets see the figures per capita

 

 

[johnmell]

Dont matter how many guns you got. AInt gonna kill that virus with them.

[metisdead]

Off topic deflection posts and replies about the U.S. national debt and unemployment in Australia have been removed as this topic is about the following:

 

U.S. records 700 coronavirus deaths in a single day for first time

 

WASHINGTON/NEW YORK (Reuters) - The U.S. government raced to build hundreds of makeshift hospitals to ease the strain on overwhelmed healthcare systems as the United States marked 700 deaths in a single day from COVID-19 for the first time on Tuesday.

 

That is the equivalent of a person dying every two minutes.

[candide]

1 hour ago, JDGRUEN said:

And another TDS - Trump Derangement Syndrome hater fulfills his day by connecting every possible action or Non action to the U. S. President. How about weeks and months of bogus impeachment bombardment adding deleteriously  to the situation in that short span of time. As a matter of fact the time line I posted demonstrated that the Trump Administration did take it seriously. Presidents have Administrators to handle situations. But in 2009 with H1N1 the Obama Administration didn't do squat to deal with a pandemic that was much more lethal that Covid-19. But I know you will find some convoluted way of defending the do nothing Pres Obama who went golfing while the Swine flu burned bodies

But, but...fake news, as usual.

April 15 H1N1 virus first identified and named

April 26 Public Health emergency declared

April 28 the administration made an initial funding request for H1N1 to Congress. Eventually $7.65 billion was allocated for a vaccine and other measures.

April 28 First test approved by the FDA

May 1 First test shipments

May 1 CDC recommend school closure in affected areas

July 22 Clinical trials testing the 2009 H1N1 flu vaccine began.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-pandemic-timeline.html

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/06/donald-trump/donald-trump-wrong-saying-barack-obama-did-nothing/

 

[jcsmith]

16 hours ago, JDGRUEN said:

And another TDS - Trump Derangement Syndrome hater fulfills his day by connecting every possible action or Non action to the U. S. President. As a matter of fact the time line I posted demonstrated that the Trump Administration did take it seriously.

He took it really seriously as he called it the new democrat hoax... As he compared it to the common flu. As he ridiculed the numbers. Said it would go away like a miracle. That they only had 15 cases, soon to be zero cases. Those are all his own words. He was still downplaying it on the same day the NBA cancelled its season. And because he downplayed it, Hannity downplayed it. Most of Fox News, other than Tucker Carlson downplayed it... And then a lot of their viewers and supporters downplayed it. Some of them (cough JDGRUEN) are still doing that today.