The Protests in Michigan Have Signaled the Nonsense Is Coming

[UbonThani]

3 hours ago, Throatwobbler said:

The good thing is that the way you treat Covid you wont be around to vote much longer,

Healthy young people get mild cases. Already had swine flu.

 

I'm not worried. Only the far left and unfit unhealthy people that are in a panic over a minor problem.

[UbonThani]

 

 

[crobe]

2 hours ago, UbonThani said:

You sound like a fascist.

I don't think you have the first clue what facism is.

Even if you get your wish for Trump to be re-elected, who will you be voting for in 2024, Princess Ivanka or the abolition of term limits?

 

[UbonThani]

6 minutes ago, crobe said:

I don't think you have the first clue what facism is.

Even if you get your wish for Trump to be re-elected, who will you be voting for in 2024, Princess Ivanka or the abolition of term limits?

 

Having studied history I do and you are projecting your own knowledge of it.

[UbonThani]

 https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/mussolini-founds-the-fascist-party

 

free history lesson

[thaibeachlovers]

19 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I am no fan of Hillary. But do you really think she could have handled the current situation any worse than Trump?

yes

[thaibeachlovers]

6 hours ago, Throatwobbler said:

And selfishness is when you do not care about anyone else because you have drunk the kool aid and think you are invincible. Ok we get it. You think you are invincib;e and you are happy for many people to die for Murica and Freedom and Guns.

It is clear that you are happy for people to die for what you call freedom..

If I say that I think it is better that people like you die as you would be no loss to the gene pool I am sure I will get deleted and banned, 

Your idea of freedom works both ways,

I care about the people that will die after Corona fades away to a bad memory because of poverty, suicide and unemployment caused by government actions.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 4/17/2020 at 1:03 PM, FolkGuitar said:

 

It's true that these few thousand people are worried. I don't blame them for that.

It's also true that there are hundreds of millions of people worried who are NOT blocking up access to hospitals, who are staying self-isolated to help stop the spread of the virus. They are just as worried, but are also taking responsibility for helping in this emergency. They are thinking about the health and welfare of others.

It appears that there are people who only care for themselves... "Me, me, me.... I want, and I want it now! I don't care about the rest of you."

IMO there are hundreds of millions self isolating because the government threatens them if they don't.

Many are already ignoring government edicts in NZ. I doubt many would be doing more than social distancing if allowed out.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 4/17/2020 at 11:48 AM, samran said:

Helping out every day on the front lines in intensive care are we? 

Perhaps that was intended to be a cutting retort, but it would have been better referencing those staff that work on the wards with inadequate protective equipment and not enough staff. It is they that don't know if they will catch it every time they go to work. ICU nurses tend to get everything they need in normal times and I suspect that hasn't changed.

 

BTW, 11 years ago I would have been "on the front line", but I still wouldn't support total lockdown.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 4/17/2020 at 4:28 PM, Odysseus123 said:

so are  you obeying the rules and regulations of your host country or,if you have returned to your home country,its rules during this time?

I have no desire to be fined heavily so yes, I am. It doesn't mean I agree with it. My remedy will be at the ballot box whenever they decide to have an election. At least one political party's leader agrees that lockdown should already be finished- he'll get my vote.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 4/17/2020 at 12:17 PM, scorecard said:

most of your family are in ICU on ventilators and will likely die

Unless they have underlying health problems like respiratory or heart or have a poor immune system, the chance of them being on a ventilator are probably zero.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 4/17/2020 at 12:23 PM, samran said:

What’s your plan then? Apart from playing rugged individualist?

 

What will be the costs, and benefits? 

My plan would be to do what they did in 1918, plus isolate those at risk, which are those with underlying health problems. Just being old is not a great risk, unless unhealthy.

 

The cost would be that of isolating and the benefits would be a functioning economy.

[OneMoreFarang]

20 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

At least one political party's leader agrees that lockdown should already be finished- he'll get my vote.

Is that your only criteria for your vote?

Do you care if the person you vote for is competent? Do you think he should be honest? And how about uniting the people and not agitating them to hate each other?

[thaibeachlovers]

5 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Is that your only criteria for your vote?

Do you care if the person you vote for is competent? Do you think he should be honest? And how about uniting the people and not agitating them to hate each other?

As it happens he's probably the most sane person in politics at present, and of course it's not my only criteria. He's an all round good guy.

 

I'm not going to get into it on here, but unity is pretty much a dead duck, for reasons I refuse to discuss in public. The lockdown is bringing out all the cracks in our society. Unintended consequences and all that.

Edited April 18, 2020 by thaibeachlovers

[FolkGuitar]

46 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO there are hundreds of millions self isolating because the government threatens them if they don't.

Many are already ignoring government edicts in NZ. I doubt many would be doing more than social distancing if allowed out.

 

I actually tend to agree with you that only a relative be doing more than social distancing if allowed out.  But as this virus isn't air-born, and rarely spread by people breathing on each other, the problems arise from surface contact contamination. Nothing circulates quite as fast or wide as money. I see THAT as the single most common vector of contagion once the restrictions are lifted. And everyone going out will be handling it.

[thaibeachlovers]

36 minutes ago, FolkGuitar said:

 

I actually tend to agree with you that only a relative be doing more than social distancing if allowed out.  But as this virus isn't air-born, and rarely spread by people breathing on each other, the problems arise from surface contact contamination. Nothing circulates quite as fast or wide as money. I see THAT as the single most common vector of contagion once the restrictions are lifted. And everyone going out will be handling it.

If that's a desire for the cashless society I can't agree. That would be worse for us than Corona, IMO.

BTW, I don't wipe my nose on my money before I spend it.

[FolkGuitar]

28 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If that's a desire for the cashless society I can't agree. That would be worse for us than Corona, IMO.

BTW, I don't wipe my nose on my money before I spend it.

 

Nope! I hope never to see a cashless society either.

But I also know most people use their hands to cover their mouths and noses when they cough and sneeze. Then they handle their money without giving it a second thought. With limited shopping, there is limited money handling, and limited possibilities of contagion. I don't know about you, but when I'm on the check-out line, I wipe my hands well with alcohol both before and after the cash transaction.

[HighPriority]

On 4/17/2020 at 6:18 PM, OneMoreFarang said:

I am no fan of Hillary. But do you really think she could have handled the current situation any worse than Trump?

No guarantees...

But she is at least a politician, I suspect she might actually question some scientific experts and consider their advice as opposed to picking fights with all and sundry...

 

There is no one in the world who is capable of handling this current crisis like Trump...

[Langsuan Man]

On 4/19/2020 at 7:07 AM, HighPriority said:

There is no one in the world who is capable of handling this current crisis like Trump...

Then we are truly doomed 

[simple1]

On 4/18/2020 at 2:51 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

My plan would be to do what they did in 1918, plus isolate those at risk, which are those with underlying health problems. Just being old is not a great risk, unless unhealthy.

 

The cost would be that of isolating and the benefits would be a functioning economy.

Doubt there was any effective tracking in the period, one assumes you concur with 'tracking'. NZ and Australia have now commenced relaxation of mitigation efforts due to the effective control of spread achieved. Here in Oz beaches have commenced opening, where I live, Noosa, beaches were not closed due to the downturn in tourism.  Restaurants & bars will reopen 17 May and so on. Thankfully the Morrison government have been listening to and acting upon expert advise as opposed to some politically motivated anti government loud mouths.

[izod10]

The "cure"  is getting worse than the illness.  Yes, when broken down to ethnic divide it is possible to see who is most at risk,but if rules are not followed, past poor health/habits,but that is down to individuals.

  Wear protective gear,keep your distance but let businesses  now open