Thailand reports 32 new coronavirus cases, no new deaths

 

 

BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand on Sunday reported 32 new coronavirus cases, bringing its total to 2,765, a senior official said.

 

Of the new cases, 28 were in the capital, Bangkok, said Taweesin Wisanuyothin, a spokesman for the government's Centre for COVID-19 Situation Administration.

 

No new fatalities were reported. Thailand has had 47 deaths from the coronavirus.

 

(Reporting by Chayut Setboonsarng; Editing by Robert Birsel)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2020-04-19

 

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Probably more later this week since many Thais returned. Stay safe, everyone.

3 minutes ago, kevin612 said:

Probably more later this week since many Thais returned. Stay safe, everyone.

I think you will find that 4 of the 32 cases were in quarantine so you may be correct 

Looks like a possible baseline of 32 at the present so establish that as a baseline to determine the Delta from there and get on with it. It will never reach Zero as they are only testing people with moderate symptoms ( if they have insurance) .

 

Time to get on with life...

If lockdown has been too effective in preventing the spread of the virus, once restrictions are lifted, it will start again as too few people have been infected and gained immunity (if you can gain immunity). We could be at the start of a repetitive cycle of lockdowns and infections that lasts for years.

We have no way to make that determination without widespread testing and publishing the numbers of positives vs negatives. How long are we willing to wait for the "experts" to save us from total and complete destruction ? The ineptness of the governments and health officials turned world leaders is mind numbing and mind boggling. 

In the absence of wide spread testing, this is all just going through the motions of pretending to manage the problem. 

Exactly !

16 minutes ago, d2b2 said:

In the absence of wide spread testing, this is all just going through the motions of pretending to manage the problem. 

What does testing prove it will show no more deaths only how many people have it at this time it not show how many people have had the virus (anti virus test are not proven yet) so do you test everybody all 70 million people or everybody the have a cold, flu or a cough if you do that I not think there will be enough medics to treat them with the virus

 

 

Have a gander at why Japan and Singapore have recently lost control of the virus. It basically comes down to not being restrictive enough about the protective measures in the first place, or else relaxing them when you thought you were fairly safe. Put that with all the stories saying that catching C19 doesn't confer immunity to it, and this virus isn't going anywhere but up until we have a vaccine.  

5 minutes ago, offset said:

What does testing prove it will show no more deaths only how many people have it at this time it not show how many people have had the virus (anti virus test are not proven yet) so do you test everybody all 70 million people or everybody the have a cold, flu or a cough if you do that I not think there will be enough medics to treat them with the virus

 

 

Might it reveal asymptomatic carriers who could then be isolated before they infect other people?

 

I’m not bothered either way, but if there are only 30 odd cases a day and the government are confident with those figures, then I’d quite like to visit the home Pro store that is 4 km from my house, but in another Tambon, so blocked off. The government could also cancel the food parcel that a loud speaker announced yesterday would be delivered to me shortly. 
 

it’s just strange such draconian measures exist for what the government figures say is such few cases. They will never go to zero, asymptomatic cases will see to that, so what we have is likely the best we get.

1 minute ago, Guderian said:

Have a gander at why Japan and Singapore have recently lost control of the virus. It basically comes down to not being restrictive enough about the protective measures in the first place, or else relaxing them when you thought you were fairly safe. Put that with all the stories saying that catching C19 doesn't confer immunity to it, and this virus isn't going anywhere but up until we have a vaccine.  

Agreed. And check out the USA at the moment. What odds they get a resurgence now that they have people protesting together. In a widely aired clip, one woman complained she couldn’t get her hair dyed, and a guy complained he couldn’t get fertiliser for his lawn. They need to pay a quick trip to a hospital covid ward to realise how fortunate they are....and irresponsible.

14 minutes ago, offset said:

What does testing prove it will show no more deaths only how many people have it at this time it not show how many people have had the virus (anti virus test are not proven yet) so do you test everybody all 70 million people or everybody the have a cold, flu or a cough if you do that I not think there will be enough medics to treat them with the virus

 

 

Testing allows an accurate view of hot spots and provides tracing capabilities to quarantine those with highlighted exposure. Thailand has one of the lowest rates of testing percapita worldwide. So when they announce 32 new cases, it is irrelevant when we are testing so few

55 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

If lockdown has been too effective in preventing the spread of the virus, once restrictions are lifted, it will start again as too few people have been infected and gained immunity (if you can gain immunity). We could be at the start of a repetitive cycle of lockdowns and infections that lasts for years.

what about what about the reports of the people that are testing positive again after being cured? I bet that throws a wrench in your bent logic.

1 minute ago, d2b2 said:

Testing allows an accurate view of hot spots and provides tracing capabilities to quarantine those with highlighted exposure. Thailand has one of the lowest rates of testing percapita worldwide. So when they announce 32 new cases, it is irrelevant when we are testing so few

So who do you test do you test the same as the UK where about 75% of tested are negative I wonder how much that has cost and it not seem to keep the death toll down

 

 

11 minutes ago, wmlc said:

what about what about the reports of the people that are testing positive again after being cured? I bet that throws a wrench in your bent logic.

Can you read?

 

That is exactly what I am referring to. No immunity gained so the reinfections take place?????

Japan has done targeted testing to keep the testing specific and the overall amount of tests very low. They test people with symptoms and those who have contacted them. Compare that to here where who knows what the <deleted> is happening. When officially reported testing is only those who got tested and then confirmed at the two official labs but doesn't include the actual positive tests done wherever (as in, other hospitals and run at other labs), then you aren't doing accurate targeted testing that allows you to isolate the infected from everyone else. You just do a few tests for show and say your number is 30-something every day. Where has that gotten us?

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2020/03/21/commentary/japan-commentary/japan-still-coronavirus-outlier/#.XpvzFlAxVmM

Just now, Surelynot said:

Can you read?

 

That is exactly what I am referring to. No immunity gained so the reinfections take place?????

Yes there's some worrying statistics coming out of South Korea about more than a hundred people who fully recovered have now had the virus re activate.

1 hour ago, Surelynot said:

If lockdown has been too effective in preventing the spread of the virus, once restrictions are lifted, it will start again as too few people have been infected and gained immunity (if you can gain immunity). We could be at the start of a repetitive cycle of lockdowns and infections that lasts for years.

You could well be right if the virus hasn't run out of steam by the time schools and colleges reopen. If infection rates remain encouragingly low, the government may well be tempted to bring forward the July starting date.

 

Timing the mass return could be crucial in order to avoid a second wave of the virus, through infected but asymptomatic children taking the germ home with them - in many instances to multi-generational households with elderly relatives in situ.

16 minutes ago, offset said:

So who do you test do you test the same as the UK where about 75% of tested are negative I wonder how much that has cost and it not seem to keep the death toll down

 

 

The UK was very slow off the block and are paying the price, they've ramped up their tests now but its not a good comparison. Now look at South Korea, only 234 deaths, testing testing testing from patient zero, no waiting, no delays and its paid off well, only 8 confirmed cases yesterday and 5 of those were from overseas arrivals.

 

All nations should be learning the strategy they employed and adapting to their own countries.

if Thailand figures are true and correct, their reaction to the virus is like evacuating a housing estate for fear of flooding as one person has dropped a cup of tea in their kitchen

2 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

if Thailand figures are true and correct, their reaction to the virus is like evacuating a housing estate for fear of flooding as one person has dropped a cup of tea in their kitchen

Big if.....only time will tell.

22 minutes ago, wmlc said:

what about what about the reports of the people that are testing positive again after being cured? I bet that throws a wrench in your bent logic.

Scientists are still trying to determine why some people who've been infected and recovered are still testing positive.

There are a couple of theories ongoing. One is, people who've recovered and been tested still have minute quantities of the virus in their systems, not enough to make them sick but enough to show up on a test. Eventually the body will get rid of most of those last remnants of the virus (like it naturally does).

Another theory is that the tests are showing "inactive" or "dead" virus cells. Also some tests are thought to be "False Positives" where, for some reason, the test is returning a Positive result even though the person really isn't infected anymore.

Think of it like this, when you get a measles shot, they actually inject you with a tiny amount of "dead" measles virus. The body sees that virus and attacks it, not knowing (or caring) that it's "dead" and you end up gaining an immunity to that virus after that.

However, if you get tested for measles afterwards, the test could come back "Positive" as it might be detecting dead measles cells still in your body.

It's one of the many questions scientists have about this virus that are still being researched and it could be a long time before they have the answers - like if those people are now immune or if they are like "Typhoid Mary" and capable of infecting everyone around them while not showing any symptoms themselves.

Scary thought. How would you control something like that ? (There is really only one way.)

If some infected people can recover but then unknowingly infect others ? You'd literally have to test everyone on the planet and then quarantine all the infected ones. But eventually all the non-infected would also get infected. Just like is happening now around the world.

That would be catastrophic on an extinction level.

1 hour ago, Greg O said:

Looks like a possible baseline of 32 at the present so establish that as a baseline to determine the Delta from there and get on with it. It will never reach Zero as they are only testing people with moderate symptoms ( if they have insurance) .

 

Time to get on with life...

Greg, this is absolute nonsense. It is just as they report. No insinuations please. From Plato's psychology: Insinuations which are presented as facts, prove weakness of mind.

6 minutes ago, PEE TEE said:

This will be a very different picture on next months stats 1st April to 1st May and forward. Unfortunately. 

22 minutes ago, PEE TEE said:

Statistics like this demand the answer as to why there has been an hysterical response to the novel coronavirus, frenetic government activity, shrieking newspaper headlines and thousands of hours of airtime on television channels? As the numbers show, Covid-19, although possibly more virulent than seasonal influenza, has a lower number of deaths.  Are we fully in the picture?  Are we not aware of all of the facts?  Is something being hidden from us that we should be informed about?

Edited April 19, 20206 yr by allanos
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3 minutes ago, allanos said:

Statistics like this demand the answer as to why there has been an hysterical response to the novel coronavirus, frenetic government acticity, shrieking newspaper headlines and thousands of hours of airtime on television channels? As the numbers show, Covid-19, although possibly more virulent than seasonal influenza, has a lower number of deaths.  Are we fully in the picture?  Are we not aware of all of the facts?  Is something being hidden from us that we should be informed about?

I guess one reason is that the others are well established with a fairly constant number of deaths each year....they are a known. Covid-19 is the new kid on the block, a huge unknown. Remember the figures for Covid-19 are only for 3/4 months, there is a long way to go and the figures are with massive lockdowns. What might the figures be with no action??? (Edit: just realised they are all quarterly figures, but same arguments apply)

Edited April 19, 20206 yr by Surelynot

1 minute ago, Surelynot said:

I guess one reason is that the others are well established with a fairly constant number of deaths each year....they are a known. Covid-19 is the new kid on the block, a huge unknown. Remember the figures for Covid-19 are only for 3/4 months, there is a long way to go and the figures are with massive lockdowns. What might the figures be with no action???

All of the figures are for the period 01 January - 01 April according to the chart.  It is possible that there will be a big variance in the following 3 months.  Seasonal flu numbers may have dropped, for example, but, then again, so might those of Covid-19, particularly with the focus that is upon it at the moment from governments around the world.  I would still ask the question as to why they are so obsessed with this "pandemic", as called by the WHO.  A couple of years ago, the WHO declared that Ebola could possibly sweep the world.  It just didn't happen.

You have to agree though the stage 1 has been controlled pretty well with the "draconian" 

restrictions as one idiot poster put it & the other virus Doctors who really have no idea what will happen once lifted.

I do not see how Thailand can test 70 mil people. It is not possible, & not sure it would serve any 

useful purpose at this time.

What concerns me greatly is an over enthusiastic approach to opening up the country for tourism purposes.

The airports will bring in death & destruction