Trump says he will suspend all immigration into U.S. over coronavirus

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Im sorry, when did it become some sort of requirement to have a certain amount of migrants, illegal aliens, refugees, and legal immigrants as per percentage of population? 

 

Its got nothing to do with percentage and everything to do with what the country needs. 

 

The USA takes in more than anyone, percentage of population means jack unless you're working on some sick demographic manipulation of a country. 

On another thread the US is looking at 16% unemployment. Who thinks ANY immigration is a good thing in that situation? The US ( and every western country ) needs to be supporting it's citizens to return to work, not bringing in even more immigrants when the work isn't there.

[stevenl]

12 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

LOL you think that's a republican research center? 

Yes, it is. I doubt though it will meet Trump's high standards.

[Mama Noodle]

6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

On another thread the US is looking at 16% unemployment. Who thinks ANY immigration is a good thing in that situation? The US ( and every western country ) needs to be supporting it's citizens to return to work, not bringing in even more immigrants when the work isn't there.

This has always been the conservative position. Its common sense. 

 

The left I fully believe is trying to sway democraphics while calling people racist for speaking up. 

 

There should always be an avenue to bring in foreign workers if there is a real need but the priority should always be to get Americans to work first, not bring in Philipino and Indian hospital staff because they work for less, or drain billions of taxpayer dollars adjudicating fraudulent 'asylum' claims. 

 

I am also positive if you asked Americans on the street this basic fundamental principal they would overwhelming agree, but people on the fringe left have an agenda that they don't have the testicular fortitude to admit. 

[Mama Noodle]

Just now, stevenl said:

Yes, it is. I doubt though it will meet Trump's high standards.

 

LOL and the author of the piece is a Republican? A conservative? Or in any way an objective person? 

 

LOL ????

[stevenl]

29 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

LOL and the author of the piece is a Republican? A conservative? Or in any way an objective person? 

 

LOL ????

No, not objective, you're talking about the Bush institute.

[Mama Noodle]

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

No, not objective, you're talking about the Bush institute.

 

Deflection noted.

[stevenl]

20 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Deflection noted.

Clear answer to your question, just not the one you wanted. Did you maybe, just maybe, forget to look at the link and the organisation behind it?

[simple1]

1 hour ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

LOL you think that's a republican research center? 

Bush is a republican. I assume he's not sufficiently conservative for you. I guess the likes of Stephen Miller's paleo conservatism extremism are preferred, certainly by trump!

Edited April 27, 2020 by simple1

[JackThompson]

On 4/26/2020 at 12:20 PM, mikebike said:

I think one calls that, "current U.S. immigration policy". Now that you have defined that, do you have any productive policy input? 

Yes:

1) Enforce the immigration laws on the books, vigoursly prosecuting employers, landlords, and transportation companies, all of which are committing felony-offenses (those felonies not enforced in decades - since citizen-workers were sold-out in the 80s/90s).  Provide "sanctuary" only at bus stations and airports, or facilities built to assist those surrendering to authorities, where meals will be provided to Illegal Aliens, until and during their transport home.  Any organization, including municipality personnel, assisting in perpetuating the breaking of immigration laws shall be prosecuted under Racketeering and Corrupt Organization statutes.

2) End all "work-visas" with the exception of "training" visas for tech-work.  So if there really is a "shortage" of some skill (there isn't - most science/tech-grads cannot get tech-work now), a foreigner can enter the country and train his replacements - instead of the Other Way Around (the status-quo).  All blue-collar jobs can return to middle-class wage scales and, this time around, we will include agricultural jobs.  The labor-cost in a retail serving of an ag-product will not impact what consumers pay - only wholesalers will see a significant difference.

3) We had high-tariffs on all foreign-products with few exceptions, until recently.  This kept production in the USA.  Those tariffs should be immediately restored to their previous levels.  Then, we can look at bi-lateral "balanced-trade" possibilities - perhaps a "coupon" type system, where if they buy X FROM us, they can export X TO us, tariff-free, and vice-versa.  National-security items would be Prohibited to source from abroad (medical, high-tech, etc).

[JackThompson]

On 4/26/2020 at 12:41 PM, Aland said:

The US takes in, by far, more immigrants then any other country in the world and that is a fact. When is enough enough?

When American's wages are equal to those in Bangladesh, and our living-standards adjusted to suit.  Only then, will it be "enough" for those pushing this agenda.  They call this "lowest common denominator" pay, the "global wage," and believe being forced to pay more, due to national boundaries and interests, is a crime against their "freedom." 

 

See the CATO institute for very official-sounding papers which attempt to justify this.  They are very similar to ardent-communists; to spite all the evidence their polices HURT us, they claim it will "really work THIS time," if we go "all the way" with open-borders  to let in "any willing worker," and allow manufacturing move to where workers live (read: 'barely exist') in the most horrible squalor.

Edited April 28, 2020 by JackThompson

[simple1]

17 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

By "ideological extremism," you mean, pro-American-worker vs pro-globalist policies <SNIP>

Just read your post above with the statement "Stephen Miller is awesome.  I wish he was president". No point in any further replies to you.

Edited April 28, 2020 by simple1

[metisdead]

A post with a link to a late night comedy show has been removed as a late night comedy show is not a credible source of news. 

 

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