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13 minutes ago, Roy Baht said:

The forces of health and morality sudden bow to the force of commerce.

It is for sure not easy for the government to keep the ban. There are not only breweries suffering but many other businesses. I am wondering for instance what the convenience stores sell now. But if they keep the ban I would be very impressed and this in a positive way even if I would suffer myself. 

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13 minutes ago, yourauntbob said:

This biggest olayers benefit in the long run.  Their smaller compitetion can't fiance a prolonged shut down and will go out of business.

 

Same reason that big business everywhere always fights for MORE regulation.

There are no small producers in Thailand. To get a beer production license you need to produce 100 million litres per year and have 10 million baht paid up capital in the company. 

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34 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

No, it's not up to him. He's just allowed to say it is. Hell, he's probably not even allowed to do that, but since when has that stopped him saying things he shouldn't. He's a useful idiot in the sense he helps keep a majority in parliament. 

he is after all the health minister and is part of the cabinet. I'm sure he's saying this because he's heard it from Prayut. 

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1 minute ago, spermwhale said:

he is after all the health minister and is part of the cabinet. I'm sure he's saying this because he's heard it from Prayut. 

Yes, but that wasn't the point. The point was they he doesn't make these kind of decisions. Someone else does. He's just parroting information as if he's the one making these kind of decisions.

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9 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

Yes, but that wasn't the point. The point was they he doesn't make these kind of decisions. Someone else does. He's just parroting information as if he's the one making these kind of decisions.

Hope you are correct sir. 

 

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21 hours ago, madmitch said:

I read another article a few minute ago where Anutin stated that he won't consider lifting the ban. The link is here. https://www.thaienquirer.com/12365/anutin-denies-request-by-vendors-to-partially-open-alcohol-sales/ Not sure if links to the Thai Enquirer are allowed. This does not make good reading but as the guy has made more u-turns than the average Thai pickup driver then I wouldn't read too much into it.

 

He just loves pretending he's the big cheese! He, once again, answers a question asked of a higher authority. His boss will tell him the answer, which when different, makes him constantly have to do u-turns and look a prat. Guess that eager ego is just too much to control or learn.

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13 minutes ago, Burma Bill said:

Please remember, there are, I believe, members of the Thai "establishment" that would welcome an indefinite alcohol ban - along the lines of the Temperance Society in the UK and other countries!

The Ministry of Public Health is a big proponent of stringent rules against the consumption of alcohol - at one point advocating for cigarette packet like labels on all beverages.

 

They are probably like pigs in you-know-what at the moment.

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Do they know that Prayut is a non-drinking, anti-social, religious extremist with anger management problems.

 

He is not a person who sees the benefits to human nature of socialising and even less of alcohol.

 

Pity the country he usurped power and people that he controls against their will.

 

I am so glad I didn't end up in that moronic country during prohibition days.

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22 hours ago, redwood1 said:

And why is Chang and Singha not also asking for the ban to be lifted? They should be speaking the loudest that is unless they are being rewarded to be quiet....

If you read the article it states that the Industry Associations have made the approach of which I am sure the beer brewers belong.

That's the role of Industry Associations, certainly in other countries. 

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52 minutes ago, samran said:

The Ministry of Public Health is a big proponent of stringent rules against the consumption of alcohol - at one point advocating for cigarette packet like labels on all beverages.

 

They are probably like pigs in you-know-what at the moment.

That is their role to promote policies relating to so called good health, but do you believe that they are all teetotal when they go home, that would be like believing that the police never break the law.

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1 hour ago, yourauntbob said:

This biggest olayers benefit in the long run.  Their smaller compitetion can't fiance a prolonged shut down and will go out of business.

 

Same reason that big business everywhere always fights for MORE regulation.

I think you have got that one wrong there is no real competition here there is no smaller competition in Thailand the legislation sets the minimum amount you can produce which in effect prevents small brewers opening up.

You cannot even legally brew your own beer at home

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22 hours ago, sungod said:

The big breweries have some clout, or at least their owners do.....Lets hope they are in favour

NOT Clout, THEY are the govt.!

 

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11 minutes ago, StevieAus said:

That is their role to promote policies relating to so called good health, but do you believe that they are all teetotal when they go home, that would be like believing that the police never break the law.

Its even worse than that, they are funded partly by a levy on all alcohol sales. They are cashed up to the gills...

 

But, there is a special form of zealot, and many of them work there.

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3 minutes ago, StevieAus said:

I think you have got that one wrong there is no real competition here there is no smaller competition in Thailand the legislation sets the minimum amount you can produce which in effect prevents small brewers opening up.

You cannot even legally brew your own beer at home

Cause and effect........the reason there is no competition is because of their previous actions.

 

Regulation is a big tool in providing barriers to entry for small players.

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3 hours ago, vogie said:

Looking at somebody elses wife can make some people agressive, what do we do, ban wives?????

I banned my wife, best decision I ever made in this country 

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OMG.....OMG..... Can we buy beer next month????????????

 

Today, I drank:   108 bottles of mouthwash, 67 bottles of old apple cider, 98 bags of 11 week-old squashed grapes with sugar, and now I'm holding my breath until i'm dizzy....

 

i need to forget about my life!!!! please, give me the boooze!!

 

oh, wait....what?  you can exercise super hard and get some endorphins??

 

no!!!! i want the whisky!!!!   

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6 minutes ago, Ventenio said:

OMG.....OMG..... Can we buy beer next month????????????

 

Today, I drank:   108 bottles of mouthwash, 67 bottles of old apple cider, 98 bags of 11 week-old squashed grapes with sugar, and now I'm holding my breath until i'm dizzy....

 

i need to forget about my life!!!! please, give me the boooze!!

 

oh, wait....what?  you can exercise super hard and get some endorphins??

 

no!!!! i want the whisky!!!!   

No household disinfectant? That's where you are going wrong.

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10 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

No household disinfectant? That's where you are going wrong.

Suprising there aren't banana peel smokers, here.  I doubt it would take the edge off a few tokes of ice, though.

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10 hours ago, fxe1200 said:

The real problem is, that after the ban Thailand will be flooded with beer, which has been sitting at outside temperatures for a month, and is virtually dead. I know that Thai folks don't mind, but I do. Besides, both main breweries have massive logistic problems to transport their beer in due time, especially into the very South. Boon Rawd (Leo and Singha) are the worst. Even at regular times, they do not manage to transport their beer faster than one month after filling the bottles. Chang is a little better. Sometimes you can find Chang beer, which may be only 10 days old.  Now we have to wait until the old stock of p*ss is being sold.

Absolutely correct. The congeners in beer that give it flavor are very unstable, anything more than six weeks old and they are gone.

I sometimes wonder what people are thinking when they buy imported beers, I doubt they come in by air freight.

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I had some Leo's in Khon Kaen that were five days old...and it does make a big difference.  OTOH, seen it being driven around in the back of a truck that is likely hot enough to cook a frozen dinner.  I give it about forty days, but buy mostly Heineken and Tiger, but pretty obvious there is a scam on places not selling Tiger...it is a premium brand on Sukhumvit, but equal or less than Leo at Tesco..if they have it, but few of the 711 in Nonthaburi, where it is brewed even carry it.

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