Company owners banned from closing down business during emergency

[rooster59]

Company owners banned from closing down business during emergency

By THE NATION

 

 

Company owners are prohibited from shutting down their business while the emergency decree is in force, while staff are banned from going on strike, a Labour Ministry announcement published in the Royal Gazette website said.

 

 

The announcement is effective from May 8. It also ordered those owners who had closed their business before the announcement was published, to reopen their business. Likewise, employees who had struck work previously were ordered to return to work.

 

The announcement enjoined both employers and employees to work strictly in line with the Labour Relations Act. Disputes on labour issues will be adjudged by the labour relations committee.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30387580

 

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[OnTheGround]

5 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

Company owners are prohibited from shutting down their business while the emergency decree is in force

 

A good idea, but it comes 1-2 months too late. Business owners has long ago packed up, removed all inventory, and left the premises.

 

5 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

It also ordered those owners who had closed their business before the announcement was published, to reopen their business.

 

What when majority of business owners can't afford to reopen?

 

[NCC1701A]

14 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

Company owners are prohibited from shutting down their business

anything else? 

[DirtyHarry55]

Surely this is over use of the Emergency Decree SOE powers what next?
I mean if a business has no more cash how can they pay their staff is the government going to pay the salary?
Could be a good excuse to extend SOE beyond Lock down using Emergency Decree to repair the economy?

 

 

 

Edited May 10, 2020 by DirtyHarry55

[Walker88]

This is a puzzling decree that needs a lot more clarification.

 

Does it refer to companies ordered closed, like bars?

 

Does it refer to hotels, about half of which are shut down and their employees laid off?

 

Does it open up the possibility that laid off workers can sue their employers, such as hotel workers?

 

Will it force some businesses into bankruptcy, since the customer base for many businesses simply is not there?

[Don Mega]

so thats the bar and clubs re-opening then ?

[OnTheGround]

4 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

so thats the bar and clubs re-opening then ?

Not in a mile, ask again in 3-6 months time????

[keithet]

So Chang and Singha group needs to stay open and keep staff even when alcohol ban? 

[smedly]

19 minutes ago, DirtyHarry55 said:

Surely this is over use of the Emergency Decree SOE powers what next?
I mean if a business has no more cash how can they pay their staff is the government going to pay the salary?

 

555 technically they are working and the business is open so no the government will pay nothing - why do you think they came out with this nonsense 

 

No government can force a private business to stay open unless they are going to nationalise it 

 

the stuff going on in this country of late is quite frankly beyond belief 

 

Can someone tell how to cringe and laugh at the same time

[Don Mega]

3 minutes ago, keithet said:

So Chang and Singha group needs to stay open and keep staff even when alcohol ban? 

Thaibev and Boon Rawd Brewery make product other than beer but I'd expect the  alcoholic beverages they manufacture for export would have been kept running though.

[steelepulse]

Is the government going to hand out bagfuls of cash to allow businesses to reopen, or just put business owners in jail for not opening due to having no funds to reopen?

[smedly]

18 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

This is a puzzling decree that needs a lot more clarification.

 

Does it refer to companies ordered closed, like bars?

 

Does it refer to hotels, about half of which are shut down and their employees laid off?

 

Does it open up the possibility that laid off workers can sue their employers, such as hotel workers?

 

Will it force some businesses into bankruptcy, since the customer base for many businesses simply is not there?

all very sensible questions and since the press and public have no opportunity to ask the government anything and hold them to account they will all remain unanswered 

 

I wish there was a version of "splitting image" in Thailand there is so much material and they wouldn't have to make it up 

[Antonymous]

A case of nonsensical Government overreach. Unworkable.

[pixelaoffy]

emergency degree will be telling you when to have a c rap next !!!

Edited May 10, 2020 by pixelaoffy

[Ventenio]

hello Mr. Wuhan and your 1000 friends.  i see you are all coughing.  I don't have insurance, but it will be my pleasure to help you for the next 10 hours.  i'll get 100 baht, great.  

 

 

[transam]

Another not thought out thingy.................

[alexth]

Monkey business at it’s best. A bunch of brainless military monkeys! 

[DirtyHarry55]

Well it'll certainly keep unemployment down that's a good thing right??
 

[Andrew65]

1 hour ago, keithet said:

So Chang and Singha group needs to stay open and keep staff even when alcohol ban? 

Similar in the UK. If they re-opened car factories now:

1. They've almost certainly got a big inventory of new cars that need to be sold before producing more.
2. Who's gonna be in the market for a new car at this time?

Before the end of the year there should be some great deals on new cars.

Edited May 10, 2020 by Andrew65

[johng]

1 hour ago, smedly said:

 

 

I wish there was a version of "splitting image" in Thailand there is so much material and they wouldn't have to make it up 

There was a Thai comedy show in the late 90's early 2000's called  "rutsaapar hoon shurt"  or Puppet Parliament   obviously something simular these days would lead to the TV channel being shutdown PDQ !!!

[JeffyInBkk]

Hilarious! Reflects on what kind of caliber of people running the show at the ministries!

[Mak25]

So I am broke now...I cannot pay my employees, I cannot pay my rent anymore...But the government does not allow me to close down my business?

[RichardColeman]

Exactly how are they going to make a business stay open that has gone broke from the virus shutdown and cannot pay staff - who are also banned from striking from work even with no wage from a company that is bust ? 

[Enoon]

5 hours ago, smedly said:

 

555 technically they are working and the business is open so no the government will pay nothing - why do you think they came out with this nonsense 

 

No government can force a private business to stay open unless they are going to nationalise it 

 

the stuff going on in this country of late is quite frankly beyond belief 

 

Can someone tell how to cringe and laugh at the same time

 

This is Thailands first step in creating acceptance, by the Thai people, of the new future.

 

One that is yet to be "broken" to peoples worldwide.

 

Present measures are unsustainable.

 

No likelihood of a vaccine soon, possibly not for several years.

 

In the case of Thailand the real death tolls are going to become known eventually.

 

Naturally, in Thailand the people must be unilaterally compelled (the decree addicted Thai state knows no other way) to live "normally" and accept COVID deaths as they occur.

 

Different countries will present and manage the new reality differently, just as they have in the "outbreak" and "spread" stages.

 

The world is now heading towards the "it's part of life" stage.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 10, 2020 by Enoon

[sweatalot]

So they want them to open and produce nothing than debts as there are no customers?

That is far beyond me. 

Or is this a goodwill plan from the government to avoid job loss because the government plans to pay all the running costs including wages, 

Please can somebody give me a slap in the face to help me wake up

 

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

6 hours ago, alexth said:

A bunch of brainless military monkeys! 

maybe, but they can throw people into jail for whatever brainless nonsense

they pul out of their sleeves, which makes me yet again think

about investing or even visiting thailand ever again.

 

and this makes me want to ask : does anyone knows how can i get

my money out of thai bank, without ever coming to thailand?

because now i have in a thai bank a small amount that i need to get,

but just discovered the UNIONPAY ATM card does not work outside of thailand...

[Diddl]

I had to think about this one for a while because it is illogical under the circumstances, but now I understand - take out a loan and subject Thais to a dark fate.  Take everything from the people including their self-respect to say NO.  I hope they wake up soon.

[samsensam]

3 minutes ago, Diddl said:

I had to think about this one for a while because it is illogical under the circumstances, but now I understand - take out a loan and subject Thais to a dark fate.  Take everything from the people including their self-respect to say NO.  I hope they wake up soon.

 

my thai friends are all educated middle class professionals or business people, and it's interesting, there's a pretty even split between those who hate the government because it's corrupt and those who support the government because it brings social and economic stability. for now anyway.

[sammieuk1]

Wonder if that means the flying business to????

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

1 hour ago, Diddl said:

I had to think about this one for a while because it is illogical under the circumstances, but now I understand - take out a loan and subject Thais to a dark fate.  Take everything from the people including their self-respect to say NO.  I hope they wake up soon.

wake up and than what?

fight for their rights?

you need an army to do that, and that

army is allready in power...fighting for the rights...of his people !!

Edited May 10, 2020 by SCOTT FITZGERSLD