Popular Post Pib Posted May 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2020 Thailand sure has moved up in world fixed broadband speed rankings due to fiber optics rapidly replacing copper lines. Seems like every month or so 3BB, AIS, True, etc., up fiber optics internet plan speeds and lower prices. As of March 2020 Thailand has the 4th fastest download speeds in the world according to Speedtest.net global rankings. See the weblink for the complete rankings. https://www.speedtest.net/global-index As of March 2020 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dominion Posted May 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2020 Yes, this is very true. Just look at the amount of communication phone usage here in Thailand. Its outstanding. I believe Thailand is second biggest cell phone user in the world. If they are using this amount of data then they certainly have to have towers to handle it. Which they do. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led Lolly Yellow Lolly Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 20 years ago, even 10 years ago, Thailand's WAN capabilities were just laughable. The opposite is the case now. The speeds and genuine performance I can get on my Thai connections at the price I pay would be just fantasy in the UK, even today. Domestic bandwidth is effectively unlimited now, but there are still some problems with international capacity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mfd101 Posted May 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2020 Yes, splendid for Thai sites in Thai language ... 1 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ianezy0 Posted May 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2020 No problem with internet speeds here, all is good. However, according to this link, Thailand is 45th fastest in the world as of Feb 2020. https://ceoworld.biz/2020/02/21/revealed-countries-with-the-fastest-internet-speeds-2020/ Guess it depends on which site you visit. The page took ages to download ???? 2 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EricTh Posted May 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2020 Thailand internet speed is just amazing with inexpensive price too. Well done Thailand. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FritsSikkink Posted May 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2020 46 minutes ago, ianezy0 said: No problem with internet speeds here, all is good. However, according to this link, Thailand is 45th fastest in the world as of Feb 2020. https://ceoworld.biz/2020/02/21/revealed-countries-with-the-fastest-internet-speeds-2020/ Guess it depends on which site you visit. The page took ages to download ???? 2 seconds 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led Lolly Yellow Lolly Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, mfd101 said: Yes, splendid for Thai sites in Thai language ... That's really more than a little over simplistic. Streaming services, for example, often have local peering agreements or even fully fledged mirrors, to improve streaming services locally rather than relying on international gateways. This is the case in most countries where there are subscriber numbers significant enough to warrant the investment, not just in Thailand. It matters, whether you get it or not. Edited May 10, 2020 by NilSS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianezy0 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: 2 seconds Did my humour just go over your head ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, ianezy0 said: Did my humour just go over your head ???? Ahh, you call that humour, sorry I didn't fell on the floor from laughing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susco Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, NilSS said: That's really more than a little over simplistic. Streaming services, for example, often have local peering agreements or even fully fledged mirrors, to improve streaming services locally rather than relying on international gateways. This is the case in most countries where there are subscriber numbers significant enough to warrant the investment, not just in Thailand. It matters, whether you get it or not. Can you name a few, because as far as I'm aware Google - youtube and Netflix are all in Singapore. I also notice that if I do a speed test on single connection to Europe, I will double the download speed by enabling Singapore VPN. All major Thai companies, including the National Broadcasting and Telecommunication Commission, host their websites outside Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, NilSS said: 20 years ago, even 10 years ago, Thailand's WAN capabilities were just laughable. The opposite is the case now. The speeds and genuine performance I can get on my Thai connections at the price I pay would be just fantasy in the UK, even today. Domestic bandwidth is effectively unlimited now, but there are still some problems with international capacity. 1000 baht pm for 200meg line, includes phone line which I don't use. On Speedtest, I get around 180-190, helps living near an exchange. Just run a test. Edited May 10, 2020 by Chelseafan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Thinking about the article. Surely that's only based on people who do a test on Speednet ? What if only 1 person in thailand did that and he got a speed of 149.95 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led Lolly Yellow Lolly Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Susco said: Can you name a few, because as far as I'm aware Google - youtube and Netflix are all in Singapore. I also notice that if I do a speed test on single connection to Europe, I will double the download speed by enabling Singapore VPN. All major Thai companies, including the National Broadcasting and Telecommunication Commission, host their websites outside Thailand Google actually have racks in the CAT IDC in Bangkok, but in any case, it's the peering and transit arrangements that matter, and for the same reasons I colo my own rack in Singapore. I route my own connections to the UK via Singapore, my iPlayer performance is so good I might as well be in the UK with an aerial on the roof. Edited May 10, 2020 by NilSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Led Lolly Yellow Lolly Posted May 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Chelseafan said: 1000 baht pm for 200meg line, includes phone line which I don't use. On Speedtest, I get around 180-190, helps living near an exchange. Just run a test. That latency clearly indicates you're not testing from Thailand, unless the laws of physics have changed. Edited May 10, 2020 by NilSS 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, NilSS said: That ping time clearly indicates you're not testing from Thailand, unless the laws of physics have changed. No I'm in London. Converted GBP into Baht. My point is that Internet is just as cheap in UK. Edited May 10, 2020 by Chelseafan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led Lolly Yellow Lolly Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) OK fair enough. For the record, I usually get ping times via my SG rack to the UK around 190 ms round trip, pretty close to the theoretical best case for that route. Pinging from Thailand I don't think I ever saw it go under 220 ms Edited May 10, 2020 by NilSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led Lolly Yellow Lolly Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Chelseafan said: My point is that Internet is just as cheap in UK. I'd question that. Our CAT line, 150/150 symmetrical fibre is something like 350 Baht. Our 3bb line, 200/200 symmetrical fibre, is 599 Baht per month, on average around half the cost of your similar line in the UK. Our upload speeds consistently match the download speed too, unlike your test result. There are two types of ISP, those that have their own networks, and those that don't. In the UK, it's effectively just BT, who have a very unhealthy monopoly on UK wide communications, and everyone else relies on them Edited May 10, 2020 by NilSS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susco Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Chelseafan said: 1000 baht pm for 200meg line, includes phone line which I don't use. On Speedtest, I get around 180-190, helps living near an exchange. Just run a test. I have several customers in the UK and they all complain about poor speeds to neighbouring countries, and even in country. Virgin seems to struggle with their network for the past week. For 690 Baht you get 1000/200 fibre in Thailand currently 19.9 Mbps upload is certainly not what you pay for Edited May 10, 2020 by Susco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Aussie Chiang Mai Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Laying out fibre easy here compared to Australia. Australia slow laying out fibre due o regulations. No running wires overhead allowed many states and council areas. Any Internet provider can run 500 metres our house here at no cost to us, just hang from power poles or trees. In Australia lots people still waiting because of regulations. I all good with overhead while you looking at that you miss rubbish on ground. Down side is fallen wires can remove the odd head. ❤???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led Lolly Yellow Lolly Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Bruce Aussie Chiang Mai said: Any Internet provider can run 500 metres our house here at no cost to us, just hang from power poles or trees. We run a private power grid, on which we have our own fibre network. If I ever find an ISP has hung their fibre from our bolts/clips, I'll cut their cables down. It takes them a few visits to figure it out, eventually they come to see us and ask for permission, and we give them permission at no cost, but we then we'll hand them our specs, which we strictly enforce. . . this significantly increases their installation costs. Edited May 10, 2020 by NilSS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, Susco said: I have several customers in the UK and they all complain about poor speeds to neighbouring countries, and even in country. Virgin seems to struggle with their network for the past week. For 690 Baht you get 1000/200 fibre in Thailand currently 19.9 Mbps upload is certainly not what you pay for 1000mps ? It may be advertised but I doubt anyone gets that. However, I agree, upload speeds in the western world are appalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susco Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chelseafan said: 1000mps ? It may be advertised but I doubt anyone gets that. However, I agree, upload speeds in the western world are appalling. Have a look https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1154377-post-your-1gb-speed-tests-here/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, NilSS said: I'd question that. Our CAT line, 150/150 symmetrical fibre is something like 350 Baht. Our 3bb line, 200/200 symmetrical fibre, is 599 Baht per month, on average around half the cost of your similar line in the UK. Our upload speeds consistently match the download speed too, unlike your test result. There are two types of ISP, those that have their own networks, and those that don't. In the UK, it's effectively just BT, who have a very unhealthy monopoly on UK wide communications, and everyone else relies on them There is a difference between advertised speeds and actual speeds. I may be wrong but I doubt many get those sort of speeds consistantly but as I just stated in a previous post, upload speeds need to be improved. Can you run a speedtest ? Do you consistantly get 150 download speed ? Edited May 10, 2020 by Chelseafan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Susco said: Have a look https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1154377-post-your-1gb-speed-tests-here/ But how many people get that consistantly ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led Lolly Yellow Lolly Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 It's impossible for me to give an accurate result because there are 40 or 50 people using any one of our 4 lines at one time. However, here's the 3bb line I just tested, 200/200 rated. . . As I said, I'm competing with lots of other people around our offices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, NilSS said: It's impossible for me to give an accurate result because there are 40 or 50 people using any one of our 4 lines at one time. However, here's the 3bb line I just tested, 200/200 rated. . . As I said, I'm competing with lots of other people around our offices. I can believe those sort of speeds and you're right it does depend on how many people using the line. It's the 1000 speed I find hard to believe. Using Ookla Edited May 10, 2020 by Chelseafan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Chelseafan said: I can believe those sort of speeds and you're right it does depend on how many people using the line. It's the 1000 speed I find hard to believe. And why does this matter? In times of hardship if people have no money to buy food. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelseafan Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 minute ago, White Christmas13 said: And why does this matter? In times of hardship if people have no money to buy food. It matters because if a IP is advertising speeds but not living up to them then its fraud. Whats hardship got to do with it, you could say the same about anything, beer, ciggaretttes. My replies have been based on the article and the replies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chelseafan said: It matters because if a IP is advertising speeds but not living up to them then its fraud. Whats hardship got to do with it, you could say the same about anything, beer, ciggaretttes. My replies have been based on the article and the replies. No more questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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