Bluedan Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 39 minutes ago, AndrewMciver said: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/ Like i said, they had 1600 cases yesterday. That is a stark difference to your claim they had 10,000 - which is false. They have never had anywhere 10,000 infections a day, which is a gross exaggerated lie. As i said the UK has carried out nearly 5 million tests on the population, with them now ramping up to 200,000 a day. Antibody tests rolling out next week. Thailand meanwhile has only carried out 400,000 tests in total, and zero antibody tests. Both similar populations sizes. The UK rate is also high because of the problems they have had in care homes for the elderly. That's why no one can really be sure how many people in Thailand actually had the disease. But it's fair to say it's has not succumbed to the pandemic like many European countries. Be it luck, climate, health of the population (namely weight issues), density of the cities they have done well. yep we dont know why, but its more likely good luck than anything top dod with Government policy. Vietnam didn't fully lockdown ...no deaths, similar result in Cambodia. Seems like SE Asia got out of this almost unscathed. But Thailand is determined to make up for that by ruining the economy and many thousands of lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred110 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Just let me go to Cambodia and return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCP108 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 53 minutes ago, ThailandGuy said: But they are planning for Songkran to be held in july? What would happen if massive amounts of (drunk) people would flock together ? Do they expect it will not breakout again? Per the news reports of the last two weeks, seems that there isn't any Covid 19 in Thailand other than in the recently returned from other countries (and those people are still in quarantine). So, we're safe. Also, per the reports, it didn't really break out her the first time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 8 hours ago, ezzra said: Meaning that the Thai tourism industry will continue to be in the crapper and millions who depends on it for their survival will continue to suffer and lose their life's works and investments witch will take years to recover from, way to go PM... Or they could open the borders. allow in any tourists, and have the same sort of figures the UK enjoy. Way to go ezzra! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalfusion001 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: Or they could open the borders. allow in any tourists, and have the same sort of figures the UK enjoy. Way to go ezzra! UK economy is in a lot better shape than Thailand even with 39,000 deaths with/from/suspected covid-19. Edited June 3, 2020 by tribalfusion001 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trolleen Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Very, very bad for a people who have houses and wife's or truthfull girlfriends here. Some people like me need to work in Europe for 3 month period per year in order to maintain qualification and own some pension point. I lease a land for 30'years build nice house got a dogs exclusive parrots fish and much more. Look like my efforts were not 100 procent safe. Stay in Thailand 8 months on multi tourist visa stay in Europe 3-4 months. What will happen now if they put restrictions that tourists must stay in certain places like phuket Arabi and samui. The yellow book become useless. The land on lease and house in issan useless. Even people who but elite visa will be not much of use tourist must stay in certain places untill vaccine is found???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred110 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Trolleen said: Very, very bad for a people who have houses and wife's or truthfull girlfriends here. Some people like me need to work in Europe for 3 month period per year in order to maintain qualification and own some pension point. I lease a land for 30'years build nice house got a dogs exclusive parrots fish and much more. Look like my efforts were not 100 procent safe. Stay in Thailand 8 months on multi tourist visa stay in Europe 3-4 months. What will happen now if they put restrictions that tourists must stay in certain places like phuket Arabi and samui. The yellow book become useless. The land on lease and house in issan useless. Even people who but elite visa will be not much of use tourist must stay in certain places untill vaccine is found???????????? Your wife will enjoy the house without someone to care for. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 7 hours ago, YetAnother said: the departing country isn't arriving, individual people are; do individual testing over there and do testing here; make it painless,free,fast,accurate; problem solved Why would they do that? That would make Sense ,Not likely to happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trolleen Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Why would they do it??. More controller over people. No criticism. Chinese tourist never mix themselves in politics. Maybe that's why. Find good reason to block European. Corona virus gave good opportunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trolleen Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, fred110 said: Your wife will enjoy the house without someone to care for. Good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrogaz Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Restore the curfew before you let tourists back in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 34 minutes ago, Jazzius said: What is LOS? (Other than the airport code for Lagos, Nigeria?) Land of smiles. Thailand. Some call it Land of Lies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnray Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 If they ever loose the Cambodians, Filipinos or Burmese than they would be screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trolleen Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Before I thought to buy elite visa when thai baht was low and Norwegian money hight. Lucky did not do it. Pay 20.000.000 for 20 years and stay under restrictions in phuket krabi samui. Good choice? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldera Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 47 minutes ago, fred110 said: Just let me go to Cambodia and return. Thailand and Cambodia, that would make a nice bubble - both haven't had local virus transmission lately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 48 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said: UK economy is in a lot better shape than Thailand even with 39,000 deaths with/from/suspected covid-19. It started off better, that's an apples and oranges comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trolleen Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 I just spoke to a people I know. He says that government will consider a tourist visa case to case to European people. Take your yellow book with you take your pink card, take a land lease for 30 years, take your prove that you pay for a house. Then you have a chance to come in October, November this year and stay in your house. But nothing sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryofcrete Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 7 hours ago, Enzian said: So I can not leave LOS and go to Europe and/or the US and then return to LOS after 2 to 5 weeks (my frequent pattern) sooner than October at best, which is what I've been expecting. Yes , I’m in the same boat .. that’s my pattern .. I can’t see Irish being allowed in any earlier that the UK .. we are always lumped into their circumstances and they are quite different . I’m hoping for November but...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Open the borders is not reality. He can say its open but the restrictions in place to get in essentially still has them closed. No one will fly in for a holiday when they are not sure they will get in and then when they return home they will be quarantined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbyJFlash Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 2 hours ago, AndrewMciver said: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/ Like i said, they had 1600 cases yesterday. That is a stark difference to your claim they had 10,000 - which is false. They have never had anywhere 10,000 infections a day, which is a gross exaggerated lie. As i said the UK has carried out nearly 5 million tests on the population, with them now ramping up to 200,000 a day. Antibody tests rolling out next week. Thailand meanwhile has only carried out 400,000 tests in total, and zero antibody tests. Both similar populations sizes. The UK rate is also high because of the problems they have had in care homes for the elderly. That's why no one can really be sure how many people in Thailand actually had the disease. But it's fair to say it's has not succumbed to the pandemic like many European countries. Be it luck, climate, health of the population (namely weight issues), density of the cities they have done well. @AndrewMciverBoris and co admitted in their broadcasted press conference last Thursday that they believe the number of new daily infections to be around 8,000. This is the estimated number if the whole population was tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 9 hours ago, bkk6060 said: Sounds like they are thinking smartly and trying to do the right thing here. You really do set the bar very low,don’t you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umlungu2012 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 7 hours ago, sukhumvitneon said: Wanna trade places? I'm so over living in the US What, with all the entertainment going on there at present? If you're bored, do a bit of looting, burn a few cars, get arrested, do a teary CNN interview. Hey, that'll keep you busy for a week at least. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umlungu2012 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, terryofcrete said: Yes , I’m in the same boat .. that’s my pattern .. I can’t see Irish being allowed in any earlier that the UK .. we are always lumped into their circumstances and they are quite different . I’m hoping for November but...... You're in a boat? Are the ports open? Landing on a deserted beach? Don't forget to do your quarantine under an isolated coconut palm tree. Edited June 3, 2020 by umlungu2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 7 hours ago, sukhumvitneon said: Wanna trade places? I'm so over living in the US C'mon,get with the spirit and join in the protests. Don’t you want some free Nike trainers..? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vermin on arrival Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 35 minutes ago, Caldera said: Thailand and Cambodia, that would make a nice bubble - both haven't had local virus transmission lately. Laos too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samisaurus Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Just now, vermin on arrival said: Laos too Don't forget Vietnam, virtually zero cases as of late 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advocatus Diaboli Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Two things out of reading this column so far. 1. If Songkran does go ahead as stated from 4th to 9th of July, do you think they will open up the Bars before that period? A good guess says no. 2. The biggest industry travel wise when this has finished will be working for Frommers, Lonely Planet and online travel sites. The amount of permanent closures in the first six months of this year, and travel changes will require a fair update to those publications and sites. Google maps already has so many outdated restaurants and bars for CM you can’t trust it for hunting down a new place to eat. The only way to get the good gos will be from people on the ground. Sites like this will help a lot of people in the near future. Thanks to those that post helpful guides and information in a country that forever changes its policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 There is no way to test accurately, even departure or arrival here. I thought you would all know that, The virus can incubate in the throat or high in the nasal canal for up to 18 hours before being able to give a positive test. Before even considering allowing International tourists back in the country needs to open everything up (yes, including bars & suck it & see !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NB1986 Posted June 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2020 4 hours ago, JCP108 said: The Thai health system probably could deal with a significant outbreak. If 10% more people were sick and dying than normal, that would mean 25k more this year, which is significant. However, unless the hospitals were already running at absolute capacity in January (no reason to believe they were), then like hospitals everywhere and businesses in general, they just took care of that extra business. An extra 10% of business would not result in bodies mounding up anywhere. As for news of extra deaths...well, that would be up to a very small number of people at the top who see the numbers. None of the rest of us (including medical staff at any one hospital) see those aggregate numbers. Not public data. So, in summary: Thai health system could cope. Might have already been having a moderate outbreak. We'll know the answer to that when the MOPH decides to let us know. As far as their being scared...it's possible that they see the real numbers, are scared, and that's why the continued measures. Did you ever visited government funded hospitals? Its a big difference between private and government hospitals, if you just go to few of them you will see that queues were FULL even before Covid-19 i really dont want to imagine what would happen if bigger outbreak would happen. So yeah somehow i understand Thai Government that they will not allow tourists come back is it the right way? Who knows... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 5 hours ago, AndrewMciver said: 25-30% loss of your economy is going to hurt badly. Dayam, would be like London or New York closing it financial centres. Tests at airports is the simple solution. "For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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