Amnesty paradox

[WebGuy]

Hi all,

 

I am with BOI and was to report my 90 days on 2nd June.

Just in case I asked my Thai wife to call them for confirmation of the amnesty and they responded that I had to go to do my report.

So I went to Chamchuri square and did it.

They even put some chairs on the ground floor where you receive the form, fill it out and then go to the 18th floor to submit it.

 

I just wanted to share this with the community.

 

Regards,

W

 

[david555]

Something special …? I did my 90 day rapport 20 May in person at Jomtien as usual also , at an empty Immigration .

[Scouse123]

2 hours ago, david555 said:

Something special …? I did my 90 day rapport 20 May in person at Jomtien as usual also , at an empty Immigration .

The only thing special, and I can see what the OP is meaning is the fact that there is supposedly an amnesty in place and no need to report until July 31st.

 

So again it looks like the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing as far as Immigration is concerned.

 

 

 

[david555]

11 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

The only thing special, and I can see what the OP is meaning is the fact that there is supposedly an amnesty in place and no need to report until July 31st.

 

So again it looks like the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing as far as Immigration is concerned.

 

 

 

I think the amnesty was instated to help those in problems ...not just to skip the requirments as for those not in problem as example me ret.ext. holder .

If i should do my ret.ext. in this amnesty i would also not skip it ......this amnesty is meant for the ones in problem, so that is why i even not dodged  the 90 day rapport.....keep in mind if all go at the end week of amnesty (if not prolonged of course ) same chaos as before shall be the result .

 

BTW no excuse  can not leave ...as flying out of Thailand is possible...flights availble , but not possible to return .....that is why i cancelled my 2yearly visit Europe as i realize things shall not be normal untill 2021 first quarter at best ...

 

[glegolo]

4 hours ago, david555 said:

I think the amnesty was instated to help those in problems ...not just to skip the requirments as for those not in problem as example me ret.ext. holder .

If i should do my ret.ext. in this amnesty i would also not skip it ......this amnesty is meant for the ones in problem, so that is why i even not dodged  the 90 day rapport.....keep in mind if all go at the end week of amnesty (if not prolonged of course ) same chaos as before shall be the result .

 

BTW no excuse  can not leave ...as flying out of Thailand is possible...flights availble , but not possible to return .....that is why i cancelled my 2yearly visit Europe as i realize things shall not be normal untill 2021 first quarter at best ...

 

This is just your interpretation of this amnesty, but it is not the reality. The amnesty says just that there is no need to make any 90 day report until passing the 31st of july, and nothing more... So if you love to see the immigration, just feel free to go there and mingle, but there is certainly no need for it.

 

glegolo

[ubonjoe]

8 hours ago, WebGuy said:

Just in case I asked my Thai wife to call them for confirmation of the amnesty and they responded that I had to go to do my report.

She just got the wrong person on the phone who did not know they were not required.

It is clearly written in the ministerial notice that they are not required for anybody.

[Martyp]

It is not required but you can do it. I plan to go next week. For those waiting until Aug 1st please report back on the crowds on that day and whether it was worth waiting.

[Phil McCaverty]

6 hours ago, david555 said:

I think the amnesty was instated to help those in problems ...not just to skip the requirments as for those not in problem as example me ret.ext. holder .

The amnesty was put in place after scenes of long queues at immigration offices were published. It was done to protect both IOs and clients against Covid. No need to go near the place until on or after July 31st. Immigration have already said that when the need to go returns, there will be a period of grace to abrogate the need for everyone to visit immigration on the same day.

 

Stop panicking, chill out and keep an eye on TV for news.

 

 

[Scouse123]

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

She just got the wrong person on the phone who did not know they were not required.

It is clearly written in the ministerial notice that they are not required for anybody.

 

That's what I thought it said as well

 

Thanks for clarification.

[david555]

5 hours ago, glegolo said:

This is just your interpretation of this amnesty, but it is not the reality. The amnesty says just that there is no need to make any 90 day report until passing the 31st of july, and nothing more... So if you love to see the immigration, just feel free to go there and mingle, but there is certainly no need for it.

 

glegolo

Like you say it was just my interpretation ….. same probably for your reply who is also an interpretation , only different .????

And about Immigration ...., well i never had any problem with them , if  documents are in order as they like and using the 800K method all goes in a flash lately !

Most complains for desk 8 at Jomtien is by those who don't qualify ,or documents not in order to comply 

[david555]

3 hours ago, Phil McCaverty said:

The amnesty was put in place after scenes of long queues at immigration offices were published. It was done to protect both IOs and clients against Covid. No need to go near the place until on or after July 31st. Immigration have already said that when the need to go returns, there will be a period of grace to abrogate the need for everyone to visit immigration on the same day.

 

Stop panicking, chill out and keep an eye on TV for news.

 

 

I am not panicking as even not in need for amnesty as a ret.ext holder, only I don't like crowded places, well ...now immigration is almost empty …, but when ever this amnesty ends I think you people who did not go to immigration if needed & you would qualify to go , well enjoy the crowd at that moment ???? (this only for those who just took the amnesty for easiness …)????

[Phil McCaverty]

27 minutes ago, david555 said:

I am not panicking as even not in need for amnesty as a ret.ext holder, only I don't like crowded places, well ...now immigration is almost empty …, but when ever this amnesty ends I think you people who did not go to immigration if needed & you would qualify to go , well enjoy the crowd at that moment ???? (this only for those who just took the amnesty for easiness …)????

I don't do 90 day reports, I send the wife. Up to her.

 

Don't buy a dog and bark yourself.

[Satcommlee]

Could it not be read in a way that if you normally do 90 day reports then you should continue to do so (as persons unaffected by Covid-19)... but those that have found themselves staying (stranded) in Thailand for more that 90 days in categories that would not ordinarily have to do, or even be aware of a 90 day report are in fact the only ones that are exempt?

[ubonjoe]

27 minutes ago, Satcommlee said:

Could it not be read in a way that if you normally do 90 day reports then you should continue to do so (as persons unaffected by Covid-19)... but those that have found themselves staying (stranded) in Thailand for more that 90 days in categories that would not ordinarily have to do, or even be aware of a 90 day report are in fact the only ones that are exempt?

No

It is for everybody.

The ministerial notice clearly states that section 37(5) for 90 day reporting is suspended.

[Max69xl]

18 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

The only thing special, and I can see what the OP is meaning is the fact that there is supposedly an amnesty in place and no need to report until July 31st.

 

So again it looks like the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing as far as Immigration is concerned.

 

 

 

You can do your 90 days report in person if you want at most Immigration offices, or online. 

[Scouse123]

5 hours ago, Max69xl said:

You can do your 90 days report in person if you want at most Immigration offices, or online. 

 

Nobody is disputing that but if there is a blanket amnesty in place until July 31st, there is no point unless he has a fetish about Immigration offices.

 

Also, more than a few have complained the online app is not working.

[kirbi53]

I just feel weird not having anything official in my passport right now. 

You do feel like a legal overstayer but it is just strange. 

I have always had visas all the time 

Just feels weird now being about 1 month over my last multi o stamp in early May

 

But will go to CM imm near on or just after July 31st once they work that out and get a 2 month extension for now. 

 

Just feels strange 

 

[steve187]

14 hours ago, Satcommlee said:

Could it not be read in a way that if you normally do 90 day reports then you should continue to do so (as persons unaffected by Covid-19)... but those that have found themselves staying (stranded) in Thailand for more that 90 days in categories that would not ordinarily have to do, or even be aware of a 90 day report are in fact the only ones that are exempt?

No

[Geordie59]

So you have  an amnesty until the end of July.

Lets assume it ends then. Do you want to be going to immigration With all the others who used it to the full extent and repeat the crush every90 days thereafter.

Id be doing one now while it is quiet and be far from immigration when the amnesty ends. 

[fourpack]

Surely  regardless of official orders from on high. 

People who have been around in Thailand a while on extensions where 90 day reports are required would in all honesty be better to keep there horses in a line and just do the 90 day report. 

Therefore elevating the mass rush as and when the Amnesty finishes which we all know will happen. There will be zero chance of things being slowly done it will be bang that's it. 

Common sense in my eyes to do it free up immigration offices for other more important tasks that will surely be needed. 

But I guess and fully expect page after page of posts moaning about having to queue for hours to do there 90 day reports. 

So come on let's be sensible and help ourself it's not rocket science. 

 

[Martyp]

Just finished my 90 day report at CW. Few people there. Got there at 8:30am. Finished at 9:30am. About the same as always.