fredwiggy Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 8 hours ago, Bob A Kneale said: Good grief...talk about ridiculously unfounded speculation. Yet maybe accurate. You tell us what you think happened, and we'll see if we think it's ridiculous. The only one that knows what happened is her, and she can lie of course.
fredwiggy Posted June 9, 2020 Posted June 9, 2020 8 hours ago, Bob A Kneale said: "A piece of work"? "However, at 1 am her ex boyfriend called her after he saw a Facebook post from her and he was concerned for her". "She never let go of her ex-boyfriend in all that time"? "However, at 1 am her ex boyfriend called her after he saw a Facebook post from her and he was concerned for her". "Associating"? "However, at 1 am her ex boyfriend called her after he saw a Facebook post from her and he was concerned for her". Gullible aren't we?
hotchilli Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 23 hours ago, robblok said: There are some big arteries there. Blood loss probably.. Poor guy should have put a tourniquet around his leg. Shouldn't have put his hands around her throat might have been a better idea.. no need for a tourniquet!
robblok Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, hotchilli said: Shouldn't have put his hands around her throat might have been a better idea.. no need for a tourniquet! Its still debatable if that happened. I mean if there is no bruising or proof it could be made up. Not saying it happened. Anyway blood spatter and such could give a clue to what really happened. If it happened in the kitchen then it is a better case for her as then it could be that he followed her. If the blood starts in the bedroom then its a case against self defense (more of a case). But yes if its true he assaulted her then its self defense. I have no idea who to believe but there is only one telling the story and only from her side. So who knows. 1
Bangkok Barry Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Bob A Kneale said: "A piece of work"? "However, at 1 am her ex boyfriend called her after he saw a Facebook post from her and he was concerned for her". "She never let go of her ex-boyfriend in all that time"? "However, at 1 am her ex boyfriend called her after he saw a Facebook post from her and he was concerned for her". "Associating"? "However, at 1 am her ex boyfriend called her after he saw a Facebook post from her and he was concerned for her". And would you call an ex-girlfriend from at least eight years ago, still having her phone number and still following her posts on Facebook, while not having kept in touch with her personally in all that time, not having let go in all those years. That would be a little sinister in my book, indicating an unhealthy obsession. My bet is that they had kept in touch with each other so my original comment stands. Edited June 10, 2020 by Bangkok Barry 1
fredwiggy Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said: And would you call an ex-girlfriend from at least eight years ago, still having her phone number and still following her posts on Facebook, while not having kept in touch with her personally in all that time, not having let go in all those years. That would be a little sinister in my book, indicating an unhealthy obsession. My bet is that they had kept in touch with each other so my original comment stands. Exactly, and possibility he was in on it. A number of theories, self defense or murder. 1
newatthis Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 20 hours ago, brucegoniners said: Good riddance! More of these abusers deserve to die. Who said he was an abuser? Of course, his killer.
Bob A Kneale Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said: 17 hours ago, Bob A Kneale said: "A piece of work"? "However, at 1 am her ex boyfriend called her after he saw a Facebook post from her and he was concerned for her". "She never let go of her ex-boyfriend in all that time"? "However, at 1 am her ex boyfriend called her after he saw a Facebook post from her and he was concerned for her". "Associating"? "However, at 1 am her ex boyfriend called her after he saw a Facebook post from her and he was concerned for her". And would you call an ex-girlfriend from at least eight years ago, still having her phone number and still following her posts on Facebook, while not having kept in touch with her personally in all that time, not having let go in all those years. That would be a little sinister in my book, indicating an unhealthy obsession. My bet is that they had kept in touch with each other so my original comment stands. Your bet is speculation.
Bob A Kneale Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, fredwiggy said: 17 hours ago, Bob A Kneale said: "A piece of work"? "However, at 1 am her ex boyfriend called her after he saw a Facebook post from her and he was concerned for her". "She never let go of her ex-boyfriend in all that time"? "However, at 1 am her ex boyfriend called her after he saw a Facebook post from her and he was concerned for her". "Associating"? "However, at 1 am her ex boyfriend called her after he saw a Facebook post from her and he was concerned for her". Gullible aren't we? No, I'm not. But you're happy posting absolute speculation that you'd like others to believe could be the case. Perhaps you have some evidence that the FB context was inaccurate and should not be believed? Edited June 10, 2020 by Bob A Kneale
Bob A Kneale Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 9 hours ago, fredwiggy said: 18 hours ago, Bob A Kneale said: Good grief...talk about ridiculously unfounded speculation. Yet maybe accurate. You tell us what you think happened, and we'll see if we think it's ridiculous. The only one that knows what happened is her, and she can lie of course. I don't post bizarre speculation, that's your specialist area, so, no, I won't add more speculation to yours. Even if I did, who is the "we" that would analyse and critique it? Are you now representing the forum? "The only one that knows what happened is her..." Exactly. Thanks for confirming that your speculation has no basis in fact.
fredwiggy Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 Just now, Bob A Kneale said: No, I'm not. But you're happy posting absolute speculation that you'd like others to believe could be the case. Perhaps you have some evidence that the FB context was inaccurate and should not be believed? I posted a theory or two. It's all speculation besides the fact she posted on FB. Facebook is accurate as far as when she posted. That has nothing to do with the statement she was talking to her ex and her boyfriend got mad, and started a fight, which may have led to him being stabbed. She may have been talking to her ex all 8 years. She may have called him. Phone records can prove all of that. She may have posted that her boyfriend was mad at her for talking to her ex.(who wouldn't be?) No one but her knows what happened, and maybe the ex, who could be involved. She posted at 1am, and he was stabbed afterwards, taking into account if the femoral was severed, it doesn't take 4 hours to bleed out. It only takes minutes, so she stabbed him after 4:30 AM. It's not about me liking others to believe anything. It's a forum where people post opinions and facts.
fredwiggy Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Bob A Kneale said: I don't post bizarre speculation, that's your specialist area, so, no, I won't add more speculation to yours. Even if I did, who is the "we" that would analyse and critique it? Are you now representing the forum? "The only one that knows what happened is her..." Exactly. Thanks for confirming that your speculation has no basis in fact. Did I ever say my theories were facts? No. My "specialist" area? Bizarre speculation? Where do you get this from? Other posts where I, like everyone else here, posts opinions or facts? When I said "we". it meant you, are you gullible. Edited June 10, 2020 by fredwiggy
Bob A Kneale Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said: 11 minutes ago, Bob A Kneale said: I don't post bizarre speculation, that's your specialist area, so, no, I won't add more speculation to yours. Even if I did, who is the "we" that would analyse and critique it? Are you now representing the forum? "The only one that knows what happened is her..." Exactly. Thanks for confirming that your speculation has no basis in fact. Did I ever say my theories were facts? No. My "specialist" area? Bizarre speculation? Where do you get this from? Other posts where I, like everyone else here, posts opinions or facts? When I said "we". it meant you, are you gullible. "My "specialist" area? Bizarre speculation? Where do you get this from?" Some of your speculative posts. There's a big difference between speculation and opinion based on evidence! "When I said "we". it meant you, are you gullible". Clearly, that's not what you meant. You commented, "You tell us what you think happened, and we'll see if we think it's ridiculous". "We" in that case means your group considering the comment that I had posted.
Bob A Kneale Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, fredwiggy said: It's a forum where people post opinions and facts. That's what it's supposed to be, opinions and facts, not wild speculation. 1
fredwiggy Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 41 minutes ago, Bob A Kneale said: "My "specialist" area? Bizarre speculation? Where do you get this from?" Some of your speculative posts. There's a big difference between speculation and opinion based on evidence! "When I said "we". it meant you, are you gullible". Clearly, that's not what you meant. You commented, "You tell us what you think happened, and we'll see if we think it's ridiculous". "We" in that case means your group considering the comment that I had posted. That's exactly what I meant when I said " gullible aren't we?, Bob. The "we" you are referring to is me asking you to tell us what you think, seeing you think my speculation is bizarre or wild. I could be right on though, since again, no one knows what happened but her.
fredwiggy Posted June 10, 2020 Posted June 10, 2020 43 minutes ago, Bob A Kneale said: That's what it's supposed to be, opinions and facts, not wild speculation. No, it's a forum of opinions, facts and speculation, which makes it a discussion based on either of them. A forum isn't a lecture or teaching tool, so any of them are used here.
overherebc Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 8:57 AM, robblok said: There are some big arteries there. Blood loss probably.. Poor guy should have put a tourniquet around his leg. That artery can be up to 10mm in diameter. If cut through it's a very fast bleed out.
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