webfact Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Ukrainian woman found dead on Samui: "It may not be murder at all" says police chief as mysterious case baffles Thai police Picture: Naew Na Naew Na reported that the death of a 31 year old Ukrainian woman may not be murder after all. Police are clearly baffled and waiting on the cause of death for several days before coming to any conclusions. At first it appeared that because Olha Frolova was found covered by several palm fronds it must be murder. Now investigators are not so sure. The absence of the woman's phone, lack of others seen in the area on CCTV and no robbery motive lends weight to a possible suicide theory. Picture: Naew Na Yesterday the Surat Thani top brass in the form of provincial commander Pol Maj-Gen Thakoon Netraphukkana went to Soi Pracharak Pattana in Maret district to where the body was found at the weekend. This was a third visit by investigators after more evidence was uncovered on a second try. The chief wanted to know more about the palm fronds and why the victim's phone had not been located. He ordered that the search be widened to a 100 meter radius. Picture: Naew Na The victim was seen returning a blue bike to a rental shop at 11.45 am on May 25th. She then walked off alone at 11.54. (There was no mention of an argument with her new boyfriend, as previously reported, in the Naew Na story, notes Thaivisa) At 1.08 pm she was caught walking alone on CCTV in Soi Pracharak Pattana 1.8 kms from where her body was found. This has all led to investigators believing that she died sometime on May 25th. Pol Maj-Gen Thakoon said there were many clues, many mysteries such as why no one else was seen on CCTV in the area, no one was seen following the victim, her money was still in her purse but there was no phone. Phone signal records show that she was in the area. Posts online about suiicide and reports that she had a bipolar condition further muddy the waters in the case. "It may not be murder at all," admitted Maj-Gen Thakoon who said that results of the detailed autopsy into the cause of death will not be available for 4-5 days. Her estranged husband - a Ukrainian man who is a freelance photographer on Koh Samui, her new love interest, a British fitness trainer, and the Thai mushroom forager who found the body and two friends of his have all been interviewed. Source: Naew Na -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2020-06-10 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChipButty Posted June 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2020 The case baffles Thai police? Im saying nothing 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolkandchance Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Ah well. Back to the drawing Board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post worgeordie Posted June 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2020 When a case baffels the Police,Suicide is the easy way out. regards Worgeordie 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blackcab Posted June 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2020 Various posts have been removed. Until the deceased has been forensically examined, the cause of her death is unknown. Whether the deceased died of natural causes or not is also presently unknown. That being said, various people mentioned in the above news articles are long time residents in Thailand. There is every chance that they, their friends or their family might read this particular topic. Please do not post speculative or defamatory remarks about persons mentioned in these news articles. Such posts will be removed without further notice. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 1 hour ago, webfact said: her money was still in her purse but there was no phone. boyfriend or husband didn't kill her for money if they had anything to do with it as for cctv - do they expect a murderer to travel up the road in full view of cameras all just useless talk until COD is established Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matzzon Posted June 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2020 To me it reads very strange that they are mentioning suicide. They clearly state that they found the body covered by several palm fronds. She can´t cover herself, right? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anterian Posted June 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Matzzon said: To me it reads very strange that they are mentioning suicide. They clearly state that they found the body covered by several palm fronds. She can´t cover herself, right? If it was a moderately slow acting poison or drug overdose she could. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunKenAP Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 A superior office had to tell them to widen the search area? Are all low ranking police incompetent in Thailand? Now they are considering a covered body as a possible suicide. Guess that question I just asked has been answered. I personally think it was the mushroom picker. There was another news report earlier about a mushroom picker finding another body. Do we have a serial mushroom picker murderer, or a copycat? Police must look at this as another possible theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, anterian said: If it was a moderately slow acting poison or drug overdose she could. Yes, very considerate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 39 minutes ago, Matzzon said: To me it reads very strange that they are mentioning suicide. They clearly state that they found the body covered by several palm fronds. She can´t cover herself, right? If suicide and she took a sleeping pill there was very well time enough to cover her body. It is nowhere said that she could not breathe because of the cover. I can breathe very well when covered by my blanket. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtof2 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 2 hours ago, webfact said: The chief wanted to know more about the palm fronds and why the victim's phone had not been located. He ordered that the search be widened to a 100 meter radius. That's why he is the chief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 1 hour ago, sweatalot said: If suicide and she took a sleeping pill there was very well time enough to cover her body. It is nowhere said that she could not breathe because of the cover. I can breathe very well when covered by my blanket. Yeah, I guess you just feel the need to talk against common sense. Just think about some clear facts. How many times do you hear or read about suicide cases where they found that the dead person covered up themself? Not saying it is impossible. Just that it´s strange. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Deli Posted June 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2020 It had been reported previously that she pawned her phone to pay the bike shop for the rental. Fake news or just already forgotten by the BiB's ? 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Could have been a local also involved here, if it was a murder, who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillyflower Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Matzzon said: To me it reads very strange that they are mentioning suicide. They clearly state that they found the body covered by several palm fronds. She can´t cover herself, right? Of course she can!! She takes whatever she's planned on and whilst she's waiting, she covers herself with the fronds that she has already collected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 It was very convincing !!! She felt lonely and covered herself by leaves. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 15 hours ago, KhunKenAP said: A superior office had to tell them to widen the search area? Are all low ranking police incompetent in Thailand? Now they are considering a covered body as a possible suicide. Guess that question I just asked has been answered. I personally think it was the mushroom picker. There was another news report earlier about a mushroom picker finding another body. Do we have a serial mushroom picker murderer, or a copycat? Police must look at this as another possible theory. Could be, forensics would be able to tell if there has been any sexual contact or cause of death, I think you do not kill your self and cover your own body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker1 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 18 hours ago, Matzzon said: To me it reads very strange that they are mentioning suicide. They clearly state that they found the body covered by several palm fronds. She can´t cover herself, right? Why not ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 On 6/10/2020 at 1:36 PM, ChipButty said: The case baffles Thai police? Im saying nothing I'm with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodieAfterDark Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 11:48 PM, Matzzon said: Yeah, I guess you just feel the need to talk against common sense. Just think about some clear facts. How many times do you hear or read about suicide cases where they found that the dead person covered up themself? Not saying it is impossible. Just that it´s strange. Maybe it was a little cold that night... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofthemountain Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) It seems it was not an homicide https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/crime/homicide-ruled-out-ukrainian-womans-koh-samui-death Edited June 14, 2020 by kingofthemountain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDeadSenter Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 On 6/11/2020 at 6:28 AM, cracker1 said: Why not ? Try it yourself. Go into the jungle wearing loose shorts and T-shirt, lay on the ground in a ditch and cover yourself with palm fronds. It will take about ten seconds before you leap back up and start shaking and brushing yourself like a madman. Old palm fronts are a mecca for ants of all variety and the jungle floor is just as bad. Now had she been found exposed on the largest rock around, giving some measure of comfort and protection against biting insects, I would consider suicide as a possibility. This should all be basic stuff to the RTP highly trained detectives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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