New Zealand 9th behind Oz? Don't make I larf!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Mr. Wallet has often been attacked,

beaten up and robbed here.

He doesn't feel at all safe .

1 hour ago, DLock said:

If NZ is not ranked number 1, then the report is bunk.

 

Germany had 8,884 deaths and Switzerland had 1936...and still have active cases.

 

NZ had 22 and is now 100% Corona virus free with no restrictions.

“The report, from the Deep Knowledge group that is part of an investment firm, is based on more than 100 quantitative and qualitative parameters. It considers thousands of data points based on categories like quarantine efficiency, monitoring and detection, health readiness and the efficiency of governments.”

This report is balanced and does not use the death rate as single criterion.

Useless lockdowns and curfews result in a bad ranking.

How strange. How can anywhere be safer than New Zealand right now? Swiss and German governments have reacted to covid and controlled it well, but it hasn’t been a slam dunk for either country, particularly Germany. 
 

oh well ????‍♂️

40 minutes ago, paulswebb said:

There are lies, damn lies and statistics. 58 deaths is the average for daily road deaths and no body cares about that, so why the fuss over covid.

 

I think it’s because 110k people have died in the USA in a few months and that’s despite unprecedented counter measures being taken. Quite a few deaths in other countries, again despite unprecedented counter measures.

 

i may be wrong, but I think those stats caused some of the fuss in a number of countries

1 hour ago, Katipo said:

 New Zealand down at #9 in spite of being the only verifiable Covid free country on the world.

Other countries were verified free of the virus way before New Zealand made it’s claim.

14 minutes ago, CLS said:

“The report, from the Deep Knowledge group that is part of an investment firm, is based on more than 100 quantitative and qualitative parameters. It considers thousands of data points based on categories like quarantine efficiency, monitoring and detection, health readiness and the efficiency of governments.”

This report is balanced and does not use the death rate as single criterion.

Useless lockdowns and curfews result in a bad ranking.

Problem with such research is the quality of data. Especially when there are governments with vested interest to manipulate the numbers involved.

1 hour ago, skorp13 said:

I feel much safer all around here in Thailand then i do back in Los Angeles

isnt it true, right? on a daily basis forum farangs ridicule Thailand and Thai officials including Thai police, including downright insults how dumb and incompetent and corrupt they suposedly are, but if you compare just how safe and orderly  Thailand is, compared to our western countries with cities with no go zones and basically unsafe due to street crime, you only can admit that  Thailand and the officials running Thailand are doing an excellent job. 

Thailand one of the safest country i ever visited or lived in, together with Japan and Costa Rica in the old days.

7 hours ago, mr mr said:

total fake news.

 

thailand has had a mere 58 or so deaths from the wuwu. by those numbers alone thailand is surely the best ? no ? 

probably New Zealand looks to be on top now... I feel pretty safe in North Thailand.. 

As far as I'm concerned Thailand should rate much higher. An asymptomatic individual is contagious for 8 days; maximum 12. So Thailand is quite safe. The problem I think is that we don't know when the study gathered their data points and the weight assigned to each. That is, what is important and of lesser concern. 

7 hours ago, mr mr said:

total fake news.

 

thailand has had a mere 58 or so deaths from the wuwu. by those numbers alone thailand is surely the best ? no ? 

No New Zealand has 22 deaths and no current infections. 

9 minutes ago, Mbaki said:

Other countries were verified free of the virus way before New Zealand made it’s claim.

Really? You might like to name the "other" countries verified free of the virus way before New Zealand scientifically established it was free of Covid-19 

usa lower than the uk,i thought south korea would be top.i just wonder how it was worked out

8 minutes ago, simtemple said:

Really? You might like to name the "other" countries verified free of the virus way before New Zealand scientifically established it was free of Covid-19 

Tanzania, Vatican, Fiji, Montenegro, Seychelles, St. Kitts and Nevis, Timor-Leste, Papua New Guniea were virus free before New Zealand.

12 minutes ago, bristolgeoff said:

usa lower than the uk,i thought south korea would be top.i just wonder how it was worked out

Its in the OP. Take a look.

11 minutes ago, bristolgeoff said:

usa lower than the uk,i thought south korea would be top.i just wonder how it was worked out

Only if you start counting backwards.

 

US 58th - UK 68th

 

Wouldn't want to be anywhere else. 

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Come on now. There is very limited testing here. Therefore those numbers are highly questionable. 

 

Therefore I think such a low ranking which will be shocking to many is quite fair and realistic. 

Whatever they based their study on, there is an agenda behind it. I'm stuck in Austria. Next door Germany (Bavaria alone) with approx. same population as Austria has more infections/deaths than Austria has. We had no deaths for a few weeks, very low new infections, and Germany is better? Forget this study done by an investment firm.

8 hours ago, mr mr said:

total fake news.

 

thailand has had a mere 58 or so deaths from the wuwu. by those numbers alone thailand is surely the best ? no ? 

it is based on a lot more parameters then just the death rate. I personally think the death rate in Thailand is not true, however I do think that now Thailand is probably one of the safest countries due to lack of infection and frankly the climate. you can read too many of these things, if you are in Thailand you should thank your lucky stars and just enjoy and get on with life.. ????

I am from the land of "Murk". We reported no cases so we are are the safest?? With differing levels and reliability of reporting, the study is absolutely meaningless. 

Vietnam had zero deaths. Astounding. It's not number one? Bogus study. 

2 hours ago, Pedrogaz said:

Thailand 47th???? With 58 deaths and only 3000 odd cases....ridiculous. One of the safest places on earth. Well done the government. I am not someone who gives the military style junta government much credit.....but in this case they have performed admirably. 

Put the wine away.....

A study from Hong Kong deep throat. What the hell. Two guys in their basements. This country is perfectly safe and has exceeded every expectation. 

What kind of a nonsense survey is this? Switzerland has had over 31,000 cases and almost 2,000 deaths, compared with 3,000 and 58 for Thailand. The virus doesn't care if you've got a view of glorious snow-capped peaks or a mango tree, if it's got your name on it then bad luck.

7 hours ago, DrTuner said:

How safe living in? On borrowed time until CCP gets control, so just about the same as Papillon. 

 

The old advice of not investing more in Thailand than you're willing to walk away from is still valid.

This old advice is valid everywhere. 

I don't FEEL safe in Thailand, I AM safe. Thailand does not have a COVID problem. There is no hidden outbreak or significant number of unreported deaths. COVID dies in Thailand. We don't hug or kiss on greeting, we don't dwell in 24/7 aircon, we don't crowd together to cut in line, we don't live in overly-crowded conditions. Thailand has proven it is a safe haven from COVID.

 

We seem to have done OK with safe distancing and contact tracing. Not as well as Taiwan, not as badly as the US. Just OK. We need to do better.

 

Here is an example - I need a face mask and contact registration to get into the mall, but there is no time stamp on the registration sheet. And I do not have to register to walk into individual stores. It is not reasonable to expect everyone who visited a mall on a given day to go into quarantine if one sick person  passes through the mall. We must all be more diligent about preparing for contact tracing.

 

Once we open up, COVID carriers will arrive, and we need to make sure the disease does not start to spread in Thailand.

 

Thailand must win!

A lot depends on your trust in what you are told. Thailand measured just 0.005 of it's population. Yes, only 58 deaths but look at it another way. Should you believe this number? Has the government created much credibility in any area of life? If there were a million deaths in rural areas (and I am not saying there are), would you as a government leader want anyone to know and destroy the tourist industry forever or would you want people to come back quickly and help fill the coffers by minimizing testing and only reporting Covid deaths in hospitals?

We should continue to be cautious.

1 hour ago, simtemple said:

No New Zealand has 22 deaths and no current infections. 

Have you seen the difference in the population size between Thailand, 69.43 million and NZ 4.88 mil

3 hours ago, skorp13 said:

I feel much safer all around here in Thailand then i do back in Los Angeles

Being from San Francisco, which has turned into a real shi*hole, I can relate to that. In fact, I may have to return to the Bay Area in January for a couple of weeks and I am NOT looking forward to it. Also, from what I can see on the news it seems the entire country is turning into one big giant nuthouse.