Jomtien Immigration Today - Friday 12th June

[Max69xl]

17 hours ago, Pilotman said:

400 Baht for two certificates. 

You got a discount. Earlier the cost was 300 baht for a Certificate of Residence. 

[holy cow cm]

9 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

I couldn’t get a yellow book from my Amphur ( long long story ) so, swings and roundabouts and all that...

Yeah, not everyone will give it to you. I had to jump through some hoops and had questions to prove in order to get it.

[john terry1001]

2 hours ago, Pilotman said:

2 hours ago, bodga said:

Yellow  book  no good  now?

Interesting that you should bring that up.  There was a  chap ahead of me on desk 9 who was getting a Certificate of Residence using his Yellow Book, presumably as poof of address.  I couldn't hear what was being said, but he didn't seem to be getting anywhere.  I would've loved to know what the issue was.  Maybe he just needed a C of R to renew his yellow book?  No idea as I don't have one, so I don't know the process. 

You use a yellow book instead of having to get a C of R. A yellow books validity is permanent unless you move house (and if you do you definitely don't need a C of R to get a new YB). Jomtien accept a yellow book as proof of address when applying for a new (retirement/marriage) extension of stay so they do recognise one. Maybe the person in front of you had a problem with his (eg: physical damage).  

[johng]

9 minutes ago, john terry1001 said:

You use a yellow book instead of having to get a C of R.

Have you used your yellow book to get a drivers licence in Chonburi province ?

[doctormann]

1 hour ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

I couldn’t get a yellow book from my Amphur ( long long story ) so, swings and roundabouts and all that...

i failed to get a yellow book from the Banglamung amphur, many years ago now.  I was just given the runaround - always something else needed and i gave up after about the fifth visit.  It became obvious that a sweetener was required.

 

I haven't tried again but, allegedly, the Nongprue office will provide one with little hassle.  I may go there at some stage and see what they say.

 

[john terry1001]

11 minutes ago, johng said:

21 minutes ago, john terry1001 said:

You use a yellow book instead of having to get a C of R.

Have you used your yellow book to get a drivers licence in Chonburi province ?

Yes, at the office in Chonburi's A. Muang, using just my yellow book and pink ID card, exactly the same as Thai Nationals do. My Thai DL now shows my Thai ID number instead of my passport number.

[john terry1001]

17 minutes ago, doctormann said:

2 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

I couldn’t get a yellow book from my Amphur ( long long story ) so, swings and roundabouts and all that...

i failed to get a yellow book from the Banglamung amphur, many years ago now.  I was just given the runaround - always something else needed and i gave up after about the fifth visit.  It became obvious that a sweetener was required.

 

I haven't tried again but, allegedly, the Nongprue office will provide one with little hassle.  I may go there at some stage and see what they say.

But you might have been successful on the sixth ????????.

 

The key is to always go to the relevant office and request a complete list of all required documents/information first, go home and obtain all before returning to make the application.

[time2093]

Will see how friendly there are once the visa amnesty is lifted and they have to service over 500 foreigners a day.

[doctormann]

2 minutes ago, john terry1001 said:

But you might have been successful on the sixth ????????.

 

The key is to always go to the relevant office and request a complete list of all required documents/information first, go home and obtain all before returning to make the application.

You think that I didn't do that!!

They still kept coming up with stuff that wasn't on the list - just making it up as they went along.

As I said, a sweetener was required and I wasn't prepared to provide that!

 

[Andrew Dwyer]

6 minutes ago, doctormann said:

You think that I didn't do that!!

They still kept coming up with stuff that wasn't on the list - just making it up as they went along.

As I said, a sweetener was required and I wasn't prepared to provide that!

 

Exactly the same in my case !! 
Some posters still haven’t realised that not all government offices follow the same rules .

 

Cue the “ I got mine with just my passport after 10 minutes “ posts !!

[john terry1001]

8 minutes ago, doctormann said:

You think that I didn't do that!!

They still kept coming up with stuff that wasn't on the list - just making it up as they went along.

As I said, a sweetener was required and I wasn't prepared to provide that!

 

 

5 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Exactly the same in my case !! 
Some posters still haven’t realised that not all government offices follow the same rules .

 

Cue the “ I got mine with just my passport after 10 minutes “ posts !!

 

Can't comment on what you both needed, I did mine at the Amphur in Chonburi a few years ago and had no major problems. The most difficult thing for me was supplying a complete (and accurate) history of my travel to Thailand. It covered three passports and included visiting annually since 1994 and living here since 2004, some twenty years of travel. I made a spreadsheet of all my travel details in all three passports. Alittle time consuming but not difficult.

 

A friend used the same list I'd been given and had no problems either.

 

To help others, maybe you both could show us what 'document required' list you were given at your local Amphur and what 'extras' you were subsequently asked to supply which made things difficult.

[doctormann]

9 minutes ago, john terry1001 said:

 

 

 

 

 

To help others, maybe you both could show us what 'document required' list you were given at your local Amphur and what 'extras' you were subsequently asked to supply which made things difficult.

More than ten years ago now so I can't remember in detail what they wanted.  All the usual stuff, of course but one thing that does stand out was the requirement to provide my parents' life history.  Birth dates, death dates - they were both deceased - and names translated into Thai.  I did all this but to no avail.

 

The head honcho in the office, at the time, made a point of showing me the contents of his cupboard - he apparently had a liking for JW Black!

 

The parting shot was "You come back with lawyer" - but I'd had enough by that time so abandoned the enterprise.

 

[gamesgplayemail]

Maybe because you are a law abiding obedient submissive person who makes a TM30 every time required by the law ?

Let's see what happens to me who have NEVER registered anywhere in 15 years but just cross borders...

Let's see how much will cost my 15 years of peace without talking to any of these very smart people there...

 

????

 

 

 

 

[john terry1001]

8 minutes ago, doctormann said:

More than ten years ago now so I can't remember in detail what they wanted.  All the usual stuff, of course but one thing that does stand out was the requirement to provide my parents' life history.  Birth dates, death dates - they were both deceased - and names translated into Thai.  I did all this but to no avail.

Yeah, I had to supply the same, and both my parents are also dead. But that's not difficult to do. birth and death dates are easy, their surname is spelt the same as mine in Thai and I just worked out the translations for their given names. Easy, literally five minutes to do. I also remember them wanting a Thai translation of my passport photo page. Apparently this is to give an official Thai spelling of my full name. I simply went to a translation shop, took our marriage certificate with me and asked them to use the wedding cert spelling of my name in the passport translation. 200 baht I think. Again I don't think this type of requirement is a problem and difficult to supply.

[Pilotman]

4 hours ago, ianezy0 said:

Hi Andre, I went to DLT last year to take my practical motorbike test and to also change the address on my car licence.

I had a C of R but she had me go back to the IO for another original nal copy? She said cannot copy. It must depend on who you talk to??

It almost always does here. 

[Andrew Dwyer]

1 hour ago, john terry1001 said:

 

 

 

Can't comment on what you both needed, I did mine at the Amphur in Chonburi a few years ago and had no major problems. The most difficult thing for me was supplying a complete (and accurate) history of my travel to Thailand. It covered three passports and included visiting annually since 1994 and living here since 2004, some twenty years of travel. I made a spreadsheet of all my travel details in all three passports. Alittle time consuming but not difficult.

 

A friend used the same list I'd been given and had no problems either.

 

To help others, maybe you both could show us what 'document required' list you were given at your local Amphur and what 'extras' you were subsequently asked to supply which made things difficult.

My list was the usual docs and copies plus a certified copy of my passport from British Embassy then translated at MFA.

Addition 1 was a translation ( MFA ) copy of my birth certificate.

Addition 2 was a certified copy from Embassy ( Brazilian ) of my decree nisi then translated at MFA .

 

Addition 1 was inconvenient.

Addition 2 was just taking the p1ss and I gathered my docs and left .

[john terry1001]

2 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

My list was the usual docs and copies plus a certified copy of my passport from British Embassy then translated at MFA.

Addition 1 was a translation ( MFA ) copy of my birth certificate.

Addition 2 was a certified copy from Embassy ( Brazilian ) of my decree nisi then translated at MFA .

 

Addition 1 was inconvenient.

Addition 2 was just taking the p1ss and I gathered my docs and left .

Sorry, but on the face of it, I wouldn't consider either of those additions a major problem.

[Andrew Dwyer]

8 minutes ago, john terry1001 said:

Sorry, but on the face of it, I wouldn't consider either of those additions a major problem.

So would you say that the expense of fuel to BKK 3 times, an Embassy visit twice  and translation at the MFA 3 times is worthy of the benefits gained from having a yellow book ??

 

Do yo also think okay to omit the last 2 additions to the list of requirements for the yellow book acceptable ?

[john terry1001]

8 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

So would you say that the expense of fuel to BKK 3 times, an Embassy visit twice  and translation at the MFA 3 times is worthy of the benefits gained from having a yellow book ??

 

Do yo also think okay to omit the last 2 additions to the list of requirements for the yellow book acceptable ?

Sorry, can't comment without all the info. 

eg:

Where do you live?

 How difficult is it to travel to Bangkok?

Were those additions listed without a translation request?

Where you told certain docs needed to be in both Thai and English in the original list of 'required docs'? (I certainly was)

Obtaining a YB and ID card is a one off.

What price do you put on convenience and reduced costs over the years?

 

For me the convenience alone over the years has been more than worthwhile, especially with the addition of the Pink ID card. And a lot of people have agreed after getting a YB and ID card.

 

Without experiencing the benefits you have to decide.

[Delight]

 My wife very recently went to the Chonburi Vehicle Facility.

They would not do the driving licence process. Possibly because of the 2M rule.

Ok for tax and insurance

[Jim P]

On 6/13/2020 at 10:07 AM, Pilotman said:

DLT website says one year, banks also accept one year.  Not sure where you get your 3 months from.

 

. https://www.dlt.go.th/en/renew-license/

I also got one recently at Jomtien to register a bike in my name, my understanding was that it is valid for 3 months.

[Pilotman]

1 minute ago, Jim P said:

I also got one recently at Jomtien to register a bike in my name, my understanding was that it is valid for 3 months.

well as you see, the DLT website says 1 year, so one year it is.

[Jim P]

3 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

well as you see, the DLT website says 1 year, so one year it is.

I does, but I was registering a bike not renewing a licence so maybe different, who knows, I also paid 300 baht for it not 200. I actually need another soon as my car licence has expired during the closure.

[Pilotman]

Just now, Jim P said:

I does, but I was registering a bike not renewing a licence so maybe different, who knows, I also paid 300 baht for it not 200. I actually need another soon as my car licence has expired during the closure.

as we all know, rules change by the hour and by the person.  Who can tell what it will be when you finally get to the DLT Office? 

[Jim P]

Just now, Pilotman said:

as we all know, rules change by the hour and by the person.  Who can tell what it will be when you finally get to the DLT Office? 

You never know, actually it was a great time to register the bike I was in and out with the green book in my name within an hour, won`t be such an easy ride renewing the licence, you have to make an appointment now I believe.

[Pilotman]

Just now, Jim P said:

You never know, actually it was a great time to register the bike I was in and out with the green book in my name within an hour, won`t be such an easy ride renewing the licence, you have to make an appointment now I believe.

I believe that you do, but the website is confusing on that and I can't down load the Smart Q app.  I am dropping into the local DLT next week to see what the score is.   Both of my licences ran out today

[OJAS]

On 6/13/2020 at 6:32 PM, Andrew Dwyer said:

So would you say that the expense of fuel to BKK 3 times, an Embassy visit twice  and translation at the MFA 3 times is worthy of the benefits gained from having a yellow book ??

Doesn't sound too dissimilar to the runaround I was given by my amphur as part of an unsuccessful attempt to obtain this hallowed yellow book several years ago. The biggest fun and games were experienced at the MFA where much faffing about was entailed until we managed finally to come up with a translation with all t's suitably crossed and all i's suitably dotted Thai-style, which they were prepared to certify. However all this effort proved to be entirely in vain since upon subsequently returning to the amphur I fell at the final fence because some eagle-eyed official there spotted that the Thai transliteration of my surname didn't exactly my wife's as stated in her ID card and blue tabien bahn - at which point I threw in the towel.????

[essox essox]

On 6/12/2020 at 4:02 PM, Peterhua said:

You forgot to mention how much you paid for the friendly service? 

cost me 300 effin baht the day before the poster

[essox essox]

On 6/12/2020 at 6:23 PM, Pilotman said:

400 Baht for two certificates. 

cost me 300 for one on the Thursday.....!!!

[john terry1001]

1 hour ago, OJAS said:

The biggest fun and games were experienced at the MFA where much faffing about was entailed until we managed finally to come up with a translation with all t's suitably crossed and all i's suitably dotted Thai-style, which they were prepared to certify.

However all this effort proved to be entirely in vain since upon subsequently returning to the amphur I fell at the final fence because some eagle-eyed official there spotted that the Thai transliteration of my surname didn't exactly my wife's as stated in her ID card and blue tabien bahn - at which point I threw in the towel.????

You were supplying the documents, did you not check everything? You cant blame an official for highlighting your mistake. 

 

We originally decided on the spelling of my full name/our surname when we got married so that's the way it's spelt on the marriage certificate. And that's what we've always showed for all future spelling requirements and I saved a copy in my phone. Once the spelling's correct on ID cards and Tabien Baans that's all that we need to show in the future.