20 minutes ago, robblok said:

????????

 

Your so funny

 

Tell me where are the black MP's look at the leaders of industry where are the black ones high up the organisation. You really are full of self pitty.

I used to work (indirectly) for a Black guy that financed the 'New Labour' party.

Now known as Baron Waheed Ali, great guy, very generous, made loads of money in the media (Planet 24).

Really wild Xmas parties.

Edited June 16, 20206 yr by BritManToo

21 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

............ and women.

White guys are the bottom of the pile in the UK.

I feel you pain BMT, life’s so unfair to you.

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Peaceful protest is definitely democratic.

 

We should go back and review comments from a week ago when a racist ex-con (With a habit of changing his name) was calling for his racist followers to confront the protesters.

 

Who amongst us was it cheering this call to bring racist thugs to a fight?!

Peaceful protest is fine. But it wasn't, was it?

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

That the Black guy, who is also a Good Samaritan, rescued a guy who was there to demonstrate diametrically opposing views is not something to which any rational person would attach any disgust.

 

And like since when has it been the police’s job to ‘rescue people’ who go out looking for a fight?

 

Hats of to the dignity and respect shown by the Black guy to someone who very likely hates him.

Until such time as the alleged victim surfaces, is identified and his allegiances confirmed we'll have to settle for that far right daubing by MSM. I note too that a pillock was fast tracked into trap one for 14 days yesterday yet the paint sprayers and arsonist committing offences every bit as serious on camera the previous weekend in the presence of Parliaments Army remain at large...

Edited June 16, 20206 yr by evadgib

2 hours ago, vogie said:

Peaceful protests may be democratic, but the BLM protests were anything but peaceful, throwing missiles at police horses and injuring the rider is not peaceful, infact the government have passed a law saying, in London it is now againgst the law to demonstrate with more than 6 people due to the covid19 pandendemic. So it looks like the demonstrators are now going to have to demonstrate from home and pull their own houses down.

“First of all we have to acknowledge that when thousands of people demonstrate peacefully for BLM, I cannot ignore that...........” Boris (yesterday)

 

Edited June 16, 20206 yr by Kadilo

I love the way the left wing media focus on the one guy that carried him out rather than the blm mob that beat the sheeite out of him. 

 

Plenty of videos on youtube of packs of blm thugs beating on lone white guys.  Reminded me of some of thai packs beating on farang. Disgraceful behaviour but no doubt the leftists will claim the lone whitey was "far right" to justify it.

Edited June 16, 20206 yr by JonnyF

11 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

“First of all we have to acknowledge that when thousands of people demonstrate peacefully for BLM, I cannot ignore that...........” Boris (yesterday)

 

Last week he was condemning them for violent acts and vandalism

but you can select the bits you like to post.

 

Boris has also been known to speak with forked tongue on occasions. 

Edited June 16, 20206 yr by twocatsmac

57 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Until such time as the alleged victim surfaces, is identified and his allegiances confirmed we'll have to settle for that far right daubing by MSM. I note too that a pillock was fast tracked into trap one for 14 days yesterday yet the paint sprayers and arsonist committing offences every bit as serious on camera the previous weekend in the presence of Parliaments Army remain at large...

Once again, life is so unfair.

 

The only explanation must be a wide spread leftist conspiracy, not just the ‘MSN’, but the police too - it’s ‘them’, ‘they’ are against you.

 

 

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Peaceful protest is fine. But it wasn't, was it?

The vast majority were peacefully protesting.

 

 

Now remind me, who was the ex con right wing thug calling for his right wing thug followers to go face off with the protesters? I can’t recall his name, other than he keeps changing it and that he’s a bit of a darling for the Illiberals here on TVF.

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The vast majority were peacefully protesting.

 

 

Now remind me, who was the ex con right wing thug calling for his right wing thug followers to go face off with the protesters? I can’t recall his name, other than he keeps changing it and that he’s a bit of a darling for the Illiberals here on TVF.

So it's the vast majority now! 

 

I don't know who the ex con geezer is. You'd best ask someone else.

 

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The vast majority were peacefully protesting.

 

 

 

How did those 59 Police officers manage to get injured ?

31 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

I love the way the left wing media focus on the one guy that carried him out rather than the blm mob that beat the sheeite out of him. 

 

 

Imagine if it was the other way around , if the guy carried out was black and the attackers where white .

The attackers faces would be splashed all over the media and they would get hunted down, arrested and jailed

40 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

“First of all we have to acknowledge that when thousands of people demonstrate peacefully for BLM, I cannot ignore that...........” Boris (yesterday)

 

47 plod were injured by peaceful demonstrators yet just 6 were injured the following week yet the latter are saddled 'violent/far right' by MSM/HMG including veterans honouring their dead from the Falklands conflict which ended 38 years ago that day...?

Edited June 16, 20206 yr by evadgib

17 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Imagine if it was the other way around , if the guy carried out was black and the attackers where white .

The attackers faces would be splashed all over the media and they would get hunted down, arrested and jailed

Can’t deal with the reality so make one up and add a load of supposition to create something that you can deal with.

29 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

How did those 59 Police officers manage to get injured ?

Cressida has ordered them to report that they fell on their truncheons.

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Can’t deal with the reality so make one up and add a load of supposition to create something that you can deal with.

I didnt make up a reality , what would be your reaction be if a large group of white guys at the demonstration  had kicked and punched one black guy to within inches of his life and he got saved by security ?

 I am quite sure that Stan Collymore and Gary Lineker would have something to say about that , had it occurred

21 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

I didnt make up a reality , what would be your reaction be if a large group of white guys at the demonstration  had kicked and punched one black guy to within inches of his life and he got saved by security ?

 I am quite sure that Stan Collymore and Gary Lineker would have something to say about that , had it occurred

What if, what if.

 

if your aunt had balls she’d be your uncle.

 

Thats all right wing racists do, deflect because they cant handle the fact that racism is bad.

4 minutes ago, Sujo said:

What if, what if.

 

if your aunt had balls she’d be your uncle.

 

Thats all right wing racists do, deflect because they cant handle the fact that racism is bad.

Deflections and own goals  Good job he’s not a footballer. 

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Once again, life is so unfair.

 

The only explanation must be a wide spread leftist conspiracy, not just the ‘MSN’, but the police too - it’s ‘them’, ‘they’ are against you.

 

 

Given how heavily you trawl the internet looking for anything to beat the UK with from a position of obtruse anonymity I must assume that you have seen the evidence despite once again feigning to the contrary.

18 minutes ago, Sujo said:

What if, what if.

 

if your aunt had balls she’d be your uncle.

 

Thats all right wing racists do, deflect because they cant handle the fact that racism is bad.

My aunt did have balls and it's not very PC to be an using transgenger analogy even to make a point, I am so offended.

I suppose that we should be so lucky that the left wouldn't call anybody that is not with them a racist and a white surpremicist, no grey areas with the left is there, you're either a racist or you are on our side of violence and wanton destruction.

40 minutes ago, Sujo said:

What if, what if.

 

if your aunt had balls she’d be your uncle.

 

Thats all right wing racists do, deflect because they cant handle the fact that racism is bad.

I object to being called a racist , please retract that allegation, or I will report it 

2 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

I didnt make up a reality , what would be your reaction be if a large group of white guys at the demonstration  had kicked and punched one black guy to within inches of his life and he got saved by security ?

 I am quite sure that Stan Collymore and Gary Lineker would have something to say about that , had it occurred

Stan Collymore, famous for beating up Ulrika Johnson had a chance to be a hero in France at the 2016 European championships.

 

Instead he used his colour and a dodgy french accent to convince the Russian hooligans he was a journalist and wasn’t with the white Englishmen taking a beating. 

 

Gary Lineker lol, champagne socialists jump on any wagon going past. 

20 hours ago, nauseus said:

No, he doesn't state many 'facts'. Most posters hear here do not (absolutely or otherwise) agree with any racist thugs. BLM and Friends might have officially called off their demos but there was obviously a large left wing presence in London anyway.

 

You have bunched together the 'counter protestors' just as the msm have. Yes, ex EDL, Britain First and small football hooligan groups probably were itching for a fight and trouble started when they were denied access to statues and monuments by the same police that allowed access to far left parties a week previously, also allowing damage destruction to be done to the same structures. Well behaved veterans peacefully attended the Cenotaph and war memorials but they are not "right wing", which is a term far too loosely applied to far too many non-political groups.

 

I don't support these kind of 'demonstrations' but I don't support mob rule, or selective law enforcement either. Biased police behaviour like this was asking for trouble and they would have to know that.

My original post was completely and thoroughly fact checked before I posted (as I always do). 

 

The BLM organizers did call off their demonstration when they heard that the EDL, The Democratic Football Lads Alliance (DFLA) and other far right protestors were going to 'protect' statues as they rightly feared confrontations and violence. The 'protect the statues' rent a mob had all organised this before with a statement posted on the Official DFLA Facebook page saying, “We have had hundreds of messages in the last few days of people wanting to join us in protecting our heritage.” Adding, “The DFLA are asking all our members to meet in Whitehall on Saturday 13 June at midday to protect our war memorials'.   https://londonlovesbusiness.com/violence-set-to-erupt-as-far-right-groups-to-defend-londons-statues-this-weekend/. Even many posters here favourit pin-up boy Tommy Robinson called for counter protests and if he's not far-right then I don't know what is. 

The far-right thugs were not 'denied access to statues and monuments'. There are literally hundreds of photographs and videos showing them all gathered at Churchills statue and again the same photographs and videos show them clearly attacking the police with little or no provocation. They were clearly itching for a fight and when the BLM protestors didn't show up, they went for the police, with plenty of videos again showing them attacking police lines 

Note; I am trying to only include footage etc from non MSM sources so as not to get the 'fake news' brigade going so hopefully the moderator will allow this clip from Aljazeera.

I have no idea whether 'well behaved veterans' also attended these protests but if they did, they were clearly outnumbered by ill intentioned thugs and as much as I appreciate you saying you 'don't support these kind of 'demonstrations' theres always a 'but' and of course yours is there, infering police bias and 'selective law enforcement' when it simply isn't the case. If anything, the police showed amazing restraint and great police work at both demonstrations but with 135 arrests of thugs, looters and troublemakers at the BLM demo the week before https://www.itv.com/news/2020-06-08/twelve-arrested-in-black-lives-matter-protest-in-central-london and over 100, at the 'protect the statues' demo. (https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/13/europe/protests-london-far-right-gbr-intl/index.html), it's fairly clear they didn't just sit idly by at either demonstration.  

 

I know things are very black and white (pun intended) for many posters here but the idea we are all liberal hypocrites defending BLM activists whilst condemning these far-right thugs does not hold up under scrutiny. What many posters on here are saying is yes there was trouble at the BLM demo and rightly so this should be condemned and offenders arrested as breaking the law is breaking the law BUT (yes I get one too) as a proportion of overall demonstrators that numbered into the tens of thousands, the BLM trouble makers were the very definition of a 'small minority' whereas with the far-right demo last week, which numbered into the hundreds rather than thousands, there was a much higher percentage who seemed hell bent on looking for and finding trouble.

 

I know this may come as a big surprise to many TVF posters here, but you can support the main BLM message whilst also condeming the actions of the few idiots who use it as cover to stir up trouble. It is however very hard to justify any of the 'protect the statues' thugs when it's very clear that only had one intention and that had very little to do with protecting statues. They simply did what they were there to do all along and started a fight. It was however the police who became their target what with the BLM inconveniently cancelling their demo and not providing an easy target for them. Many here attempt to justify the actions of these thugs who were clearly organised and looking for trouble by holding up the SMALL minority of troublemakers at the BLM demo the week before as a 'well they did it, so why can't we' type of twisted logic. It's an easy cop out to justify their bigotry but as I hope your mum taught you 'two wrongs don't make a right', especially when one was intentionally set up and had the sole purpose of being very wrong indeed. 

 

Now if you want to dispute any of what I have said here I would appreciate if you would do it with legitimate news sources like I have. It takes longer of course but facts do matter.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

15 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

My original post was completely and thoroughly fact checked before I posted (as I always do). 

 

The BLM organizers did call off their demonstration when they heard that the EDL, The Democratic Football Lads Alliance (DFLA) and other far right protestors were going to 'protect' statues as they rightly feared confrontations and violence. The 'protect the statues' rent a mob had all organised this before with a statement posted on the Official DFLA Facebook page saying, “We have had hundreds of messages in the last few days of people wanting to join us in protecting our heritage.” Adding, “The DFLA are asking all our members to meet in Whitehall on Saturday 13 June at midday to protect our war memorials'.   https://londonlovesbusiness.com/violence-set-to-erupt-as-far-right-groups-to-defend-londons-statues-this-weekend/. Even many posters here favourit pin-up boy Tommy Robinson called for counter protests and if he's not far-right then I don't know what is. 

The far-right thugs were not 'denied access to statues and monuments'. There are literally hundreds of photographs and videos showing them all gathered at Churchills statue and again the same photographs and videos show them clearly attacking the police with little or no provocation. They were clearly itching for a fight and when the BLM protestors didn't show up, they went for the police, with plenty of videos again showing them attacking police lines 

Note; I am trying to only include footage etc from non MSM sources so as not to get the 'fake news' brigade going so hopefully the moderator will allow this clip from Aljazeera.

I have no idea whether 'well behaved veterans' also attended these protests but if they did, they were clearly outnumbered by ill intentioned thugs and as much as I appreciate you saying you 'don't support these kind of 'demonstrations' theres always a 'but' and of course yours is there, infering police bias and 'selective law enforcement' when it simply isn't the case. If anything, the police showed amazing restraint and great police work at both demonstrations but with 135 arrests of thugs, looters and troublemakers at the BLM demo the week before https://www.itv.com/news/2020-06-08/twelve-arrested-in-black-lives-matter-protest-in-central-london and over 100, at the 'protect the statues' demo. (https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/13/europe/protests-london-far-right-gbr-intl/index.html), it's fairly clear they didn't just sit idly by at either demonstration.  

 

I know things are very black and white (pun intended) for many posters here but the idea we are all liberal hypocrites defending BLM activists whilst condemning these far-right thugs does not hold up under scrutiny. What many posters on here are saying is yes there was trouble at the BLM demo and rightly so this should be condemned and offenders arrested as breaking the law is breaking the law BUT (yes I get one too) as a proportion of overall demonstrators that numbered into the tens of thousands, the BLM trouble makers were the very definition of a 'small minority' whereas with the far-right demo last week, which numbered into the hundreds rather than thousands, there was a much higher percentage who seemed hell bent on looking for and finding trouble.

 

I know this may come as a big surprise to many TVF posters here, but you can support the main BLM message whilst also condeming the actions of the few idiots who use it as cover to stir up trouble. It is however very hard to justify any of the 'protect the statues' thugs when it's very clear that only had one intention and that had very little to do with protecting statues. They simply did what they were there to do all along and started a fight. It was however the police who became their target what with the BLM inconveniently cancelling their demo and not providing an easy target for them. Many here attempt to justify the actions of these thugs who were clearly organised and looking for trouble by holding up the SMALL minority of troublemakers at the BLM demo the week before as a 'well they did it, so why can't we' type of twisted logic. It's an easy cop out to justify their bigotry but as I hope your mum taught you 'two wrongs don't make a right', especially when one was intentionally set up and had the sole purpose of being very wrong indeed. 

 

Now if you want to dispute any of what I have said here I would appreciate if you would do it with legitimate news sources like I have. It takes longer of course but facts do matter.  

I counted five (mentions of) "Far Right" in that clip, along with references to (unnamed)"Organisations" which, without names, are little more than guesswork, and I also noted "Patriotism" being used as a stick, along with apportioning blame for lobbing pyrotechnics when it was far from clear who did that or where they came from.

Given the suspicion as to who was really behind the clashes and their connections to Middle Eastern extremist organisation(s) this particular platform and it's owners/controllers should/will be considered hostile.

Edited June 16, 20206 yr by evadgib

14 minutes ago, evadgib said:

I counted five (mentions of) "Far Right" in that clip, along with references to (unnamed)"Organisations" which, without names, are little more than guesswork, and I also noted "Patriotism" being used as a stick, along with apportioning blame for lobbing pyrotechnics when it was far from clear who did that or where they came from.

Given the suspicion as to who was really behind the clashes and their connections to Middle Eastern extremist organisation(s) this particular platform and it's owners/controllers should/will be considered hostile.

Fine. Then go and look at the literally hundreds of other videos of this demo and choose one from a source that you 'approve' of.

Unless you are in the habit of denying what your own eyes see, my post still stands.

And you hear 'far right' bacause that's exactly what they are.

Edited June 16, 20206 yr by johnnybangkok

On 6/14/2020 at 11:55 AM, vogie said:

That's why so many people are cancelling their BBC TV licence and a movement called 'defund the BBC' has begun, people are sick to death of the BBCs propaganda, the news readers are not impartial any more.

Yep. a satisfying email received this week.

 

Edited June 16, 20206 yr by CaptainCarrot
sp

And the MSM are  to trying to influence thinking?

3 minutes ago, CaptainCarrot said:

And the MSM are  to trying to influence thinking?

You are accusing MSM of cherry picking by cherry picking a photo that confirms YOUR bias. Can’t you see the hypocrisy?

1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said:

My original post was completely and thoroughly fact checked before I posted (as I always do). 

 

The BLM organizers did call off their demonstration when they heard that the EDL, The Democratic Football Lads Alliance (DFLA) and other far right protestors were going to 'protect' statues as they rightly feared confrontations and violence. The 'protect the statues' rent a mob had all organised this before with a statement posted on the Official DFLA Facebook page saying, “We have had hundreds of messages in the last few days of people wanting to join us in protecting our heritage.” Adding, “The DFLA are asking all our members to meet in Whitehall on Saturday 13 June at midday to protect our war memorials'.   https://londonlovesbusiness.com/violence-set-to-erupt-as-far-right-groups-to-defend-londons-statues-this-weekend/. Even many posters here favourit pin-up boy Tommy Robinson called for counter protests and if he's not far-right then I don't know what is. 

The far-right thugs were not 'denied access to statues and monuments'. There are literally hundreds of photographs and videos showing them all gathered at Churchills statue and again the same photographs and videos show them clearly attacking the police with little or no provocation. They were clearly itching for a fight and when the BLM protestors didn't show up, they went for the police, with plenty of videos again showing them attacking police lines 

Note; I am trying to only include footage etc from non MSM sources so as not to get the 'fake news' brigade going so hopefully the moderator will allow this clip from Aljazeera.

I have no idea whether 'well behaved veterans' also attended these protests but if they did, they were clearly outnumbered by ill intentioned thugs and as much as I appreciate you saying you 'don't support these kind of 'demonstrations' theres always a 'but' and of course yours is there, infering police bias and 'selective law enforcement' when it simply isn't the case. If anything, the police showed amazing restraint and great police work at both demonstrations but with 135 arrests of thugs, looters and troublemakers at the BLM demo the week before https://www.itv.com/news/2020-06-08/twelve-arrested-in-black-lives-matter-protest-in-central-london and over 100, at the 'protect the statues' demo. (https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/13/europe/protests-london-far-right-gbr-intl/index.html), it's fairly clear they didn't just sit idly by at either demonstration.  

 

I know things are very black and white (pun intended) for many posters here but the idea we are all liberal hypocrites defending BLM activists whilst condemning these far-right thugs does not hold up under scrutiny. What many posters on here are saying is yes there was trouble at the BLM demo and rightly so this should be condemned and offenders arrested as breaking the law is breaking the law BUT (yes I get one too) as a proportion of overall demonstrators that numbered into the tens of thousands, the BLM trouble makers were the very definition of a 'small minority' whereas with the far-right demo last week, which numbered into the hundreds rather than thousands, there was a much higher percentage who seemed hell bent on looking for and finding trouble.

 

I know this may come as a big surprise to many TVF posters here, but you can support the main BLM message whilst also condeming the actions of the few idiots who use it as cover to stir up trouble. It is however very hard to justify any of the 'protect the statues' thugs when it's very clear that only had one intention and that had very little to do with protecting statues. They simply did what they were there to do all along and started a fight. It was however the police who became their target what with the BLM inconveniently cancelling their demo and not providing an easy target for them. Many here attempt to justify the actions of these thugs who were clearly organised and looking for trouble by holding up the SMALL minority of troublemakers at the BLM demo the week before as a 'well they did it, so why can't we' type of twisted logic. It's an easy cop out to justify their bigotry but as I hope your mum taught you 'two wrongs don't make a right', especially when one was intentionally set up and had the sole purpose of being very wrong indeed. 

 

Now if you want to dispute any of what I have said here I would appreciate if you would do it with legitimate news sources like I have. It takes longer of course but facts do matter.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

I've said all I want to say about this in the post you quoted and I stand by it. You dispute some of it in your response. That you "have no idea whether 'well behaved veterans' also attended these protests" tells me that your fact checking is not as thorough as you think it is. 

Edited June 16, 20206 yr by nauseus

4 minutes ago, nauseus said:

I've said all I want to say about this in the post you quoted and I stand by it. You dispute some of it in your response. That you "have no idea whether 'well behaved veterans' also attended these protests" tells me that your fact checking is not as thorough as you think it is. 

I cannot find a single story confirming there was “war veterans” attending the marches so perhaps you could be kind enough to post your sources.