29 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

I cannot find a single story confirming there was “war veterans” attending the marches so perhaps you could be kind enough to post your sources. 
 

The people in the picture are veterans in London, on Saturday. Unfortunately the accompanying story is all about the thugs. A pity that The Telegraph is reduced to this "bundling" method of reporting. It causes confusion and even more resentment.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/06/14/rather-tear-people-should-build-others/  

 

 

5 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

I didnt make up a reality , what would be your reaction be if a large group of white guys at the demonstration  had kicked and punched one black guy to within inches of his life and he got saved by security ?

 I am quite sure that Stan Collymore and Gary Lineker would have something to say about that , had it occurred

Can we stick to what happened rather than getting side tracked with your alt-reality fantasies?!

 

 

5 hours ago, evadgib said:

Given how heavily you trawl the internet looking for anything to beat the UK with from a position of obtruse anonymity I must assume that you have seen the evidence despite once again feigning to the contrary.

You’re sensitivity to any criticism of the UK is flaring up again.

 

The subject is skirmishes in the UK, my views are generally supportive of the police  response, supportive of the right to

peacefully protest, skeptical of claims it is the left that has caused the violence and mindful of the fact known rightwing extremists have called for their followers to face up to the protesters.

 

I’m not sure that any rational person would characterize those views as ‘beating the UK’ with anything.

 

As for ‘obtuse anonymity’, do I take it that your real name is ‘evadgib’?!

 

Of course it is not.

1 hour ago, CaptainCarrot said:

And the MSM are  to trying to influence thinking?

It’s a conspiracy, ‘they’ are ganging up against you.

 

Just as well you’ve got those websites where you can read stuff that sounds far more believable.

 

 

Edited June 16, 20206 yr by Chomper Higgot

1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said:

Fine. Then go and look at the literally hundreds of other videos of this demo and choose one from a source that you 'approve' of.

Unless you are in the habit of denying what your own eyes see, my post still stands.

And you hear 'far right' bacause that's exactly what they are.

I have found far more than one yet in all the one's that I have seen & studied closely there are no jack boots or Nazi salutes to be seen. The most recent one that I looked at a few mins ago was posted by a Guards veteran who had been at the cenotaph & Guards memorial. The salient points from his first hand account were:

 

- Plod marched them to the Cenotaph & them surrounded them and threatened/intimidated them with arrest, citing a specific order (Sect 14?). Plod also claimed to the group, presumably as a wind-up, that it (Cenotaph) was 'going to be moved' and that "Churchill's granddaughter had requested that his statue be moved too". He capped this by saying that a request for 2x bottles of water for a couple of elderly veterans that were starting to wilt had been refused despite plod having pallet loads in full view at their disposal and were later seen dishing it out willy-nilly upon request to anyone from BLM.

 

- Plod also separated a separate group of veterans & prevented them joining the above. Others were stopped and/or turned back on several arterial routes into London, preventing them ever arriving.

 

"Hearts and minds"? Under Citizen Khan, Cressidda Dick & it has to be said this Govt too they are an absolute disgrace!

 

30 minutes ago, nauseus said:

The people in the picture are veterans in London, on Saturday. Unfortunately the accompanying story is all about the thugs. A pity that The Telegraph is reduced to this "bundling" method of reporting. It causes confusion and even more resentment.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/06/14/rather-tear-people-should-build-others/  

 

 

Fair enough. They look like vets but as I said and the article points out, they were vastly outnumbered by those determined to make trouble. If the only people demonstrating where these guys then chances are there wouldn’t have been any trouble. It wasn’t, hence the points I was making. 
And you really can’t blame the Telegraph for reporting what actually happened. It is their job after all to report what went on and we all can read/see what actually went on and it certainly wasn’t a bunch of nice war vets peacefully demonstrating which I think is what you are trying to infer. 

34 minutes ago, nauseus said:

The people in the picture are veterans in London, on Saturday. Unfortunately the accompanying story is all about the thugs. A pity that The Telegraph is reduced to this "bundling" method of reporting. It causes confusion and even more resentment.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/06/14/rather-tear-people-should-build-others/  

It's time everyone realised that MSM cannot be trusted in either direction & that that has been the case (on an increasingly sliding scale) since the early 90s.

I think it's sad that some of the grumpy, may I say, losers, who are supporting Putin style of destruction of Western way of life and it's unity, are still allowed to push their agendas here. 

 

Yes, there are cracks how western people think, like there should be. People are allowed to say their minds, even if it annoys the heck out of others. 

 

But what is not welcome, is the purposeful amplification effort to separate the people's minds, when they could actually find a common ground. That's the point where dark forces hit.

 

We know how to find a reasonable consensus between us. Let's not let the opposite to all of us, forces to lead us. 

 

7 minutes ago, vogie said:

Australian Sky News doesn't appear to have that problem being carefull not to upset the far left.

 

 

Sky news at night fringe dwellers doing their best to get a gig at the Fox News HQ by opening up as many ludicrous fronts in the culture wars as they can. 
 

‘The PC socialists are coming for your culture!!!!!’ 
 

I guess if you are thin skinned, insecure and have an aversion to anything but what you see in the mirror, I guess it would resonate. 

8 minutes ago, evadgib said:

while allegedly being a citizen of a mickey mouse country not renowned for any great achievement on the world stage I find this quite laughable.

I dare say he is confusing me for you, Chomper...

2 minutes ago, samran said:

Sky news at night fringe dwellers doing their best to get a gig at the Fox News HQ by opening up as many ludicrous fronts in the culture wars as they can. 
 

‘The PC socialists are coming for your culture!!!!!’ 
 

I guess if you are thin skinned, insecure and have an aversion to anything but what you see in the mirror, I guess it would resonate. 

I have noticed this too. I don't watch the Sky News Australia on TV, but I do see their shows on Youtube. 

 

At first I was thinking, can they really be related to the Sky News in UK as they really were Fox news of Australia.

30 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

Fair enough. They look like vets but as I said and the article points out, they were vastly outnumbered by those determined to make trouble. If the only people demonstrating where these guys then chances are there wouldn’t have been any trouble. It wasn’t, hence the points I was making. 
And you really can’t blame the Telegraph for reporting what actually happened. It is their job after all to report what went on and we all can read/see what actually went on and it certainly wasn’t a bunch of nice war vets peacefully demonstrating which I think is what you are trying to infer. 

We don't really know about numbers. Several TV VDO reports quoted "thousands" of far rightists when the max amount I've seen in any clip is a couple of hundred at most. As the post above (evadgib 336) indicates, unknown numbers of other veterans were blocked from entering London.

 

The Telegraph can report what it likes but why show a pictures of veterans but then rant about far right thuggery directly below and in the same piece? True impartial journalism is dead in the UK.

Off topic post removed

9 minutes ago, TheDark said:

I have noticed this too. I don't watch the Sky News Australia on TV, but I do see their shows on Youtube. 

 

At first I was thinking, can they really be related to the Sky News in UK as they really were Fox news of Australia.

The influence of the nutbag element of US politics is increasing given Murdoch owns 70% of the media in the country. As a result there is a audience for whom this stuff appeals. This week it’s the socialists. Before that it was the Sudanese migrants, before that muslims, before that the Asians, Italians and Greeks and before that the Irish.

 

They are literally told to be be scared of their own shadow, and thus they are. 

13 minutes ago, nauseus said:

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The Telegraph can report what it likes but why show a pictures of veterans but then rant about far right thuggery directly below and in the same piece? True impartial journalism is dead in the UK.

It is not, you just don't like the news.

27 minutes ago, stevenl said:

It is not, you just don't like the news.

It's true I don't like a lot of the news these days. But I am talking about this so-called journalism - it's <deleted>. 

19 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Right on cue, as predicted. Bit short on venom though - has it been a long day for you?
I'll bet that more Aussies are attracted to him though. They're not usually slow to call a spade a spade, although many of the younger and more stupid ones have been brainwashed into submission.

I’m more regular than your bladder these days I’m guessing. 
 

Nothing really to be venomous about.
 

If you read my previous post, we’ve had charlatans like him forever and a day. They have their appeal to the ‘woe is me - let’s blame the immigrants for my own failings’ mob, but for the rest of us they are a humorous diversion. Im not too worried about them. 
 

As said, he’s auditioning hard to get the attention of old Rupert. The conservative journalists scratch each other’s eyes out for a chance to be Ruperts poodle. It’s fun to watch. 

Edited June 16, 20206 yr by samran

10 minutes ago, samran said:

I’m more regular than your bladder these days I’m guessing. 
 

Nothing really to be venomous about.
 

If you read my previous post, we’ve had charlatans like him forever and a day. They have their appeal to the ‘woe is me - let’s blame the immigrants for my own failings’ mob, but for the rest of us they are a humorous diversion. Im not too worried about them. 
 

As said, he’s auditioning hard to get the attention of old Rupert. The conservative journalists scratch each other’s eyes out for a chance to be Ruperts poodle. It’s fun to watch. 

It's of some concern that you immediately think about my bladder. All perfect thank you very much, but I'll leave the psychoanalysists here to determine what that really means.

 

The rest of it, well we'll just put that down to the younger and stupider brainwashing. It all makes for some useful MSM lapdog yapping.

Off topic posts, troll posts and the replies have been removed. 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11879983/protester-rescued-black-lives-matter-revealed/?utm_campaign=sunmainfacebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1592376945

 

5 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11879983/protester-rescued-black-lives-matter-revealed/?utm_campaign=sunmainfacebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1592376945

 

Christ! I think that releasing that photo might be punishment enough, if he is due any!

3 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11879983/protester-rescued-black-lives-matter-revealed/?utm_campaign=sunmainfacebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1592376945

 

 

It's nice to know that 40-something adult carried 50+ year old kid to the safety, when the action was needed. 

 

He has handsome family.

5 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Christ! I think that releasing that photo might be punishment enough, if he is due any!

The report doesnt say which side he was on , whether he was Ant Teether or statue defender .

1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said:

The report doesnt say which side he was on , whether he was Ant Teether or statue defender .

I know that although the tat might be a giveaway? The question should not be what "side" he was on but did he actually do anything wrong?

2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

I know that although the tat might be a giveaway? The question should not be what "side" he was on but did he actually do anything wrong?

That shows what team he supports, but that doesnt show his political alliances .

I am surprised that the article didnt mention it

12 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

That shows what team he supports, but that doesnt show his political alliances .

I am surprised that the article didnt mention it

This whole scenario has too many holes for it yet to be taken seriously. Piers Morgan is the latest MSM-er to have taken the story at face value and has this morning been fawning all over the rescuers who appeared (in the short bit that i have just looked up) seemed a little embarrassed at the continued attention. Al Sharp-tongue has also weighed in from America.

 

I (still) don't quite know what to make of it.

33 minutes ago, nauseus said:

I know that although the tat might be a giveaway? The question should not be what "side" he was on but did he actually do anything wrong?

Humanity is one of those things, these rollers like nauseus, have difficulties to understand. 

 

Most of the people are good. Most of the people wish well to other human beings. Most of the people are willing to go extra mile to do so.

 

It might not be in your culture, but be assured, it's part of the most cultures. 

 

I'm sure there will be others, like you, who will go against ideology of being kind to others. Oh.. evangib seems to have already replied.. I'm sure she is possessing her thoughts along with you. 

25 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

That shows what team he supports, but that doesnt show his political alliances .

I am surprised that the article didnt mention it

With no apparent injuries and given his age and physical appearance this could quite easily have been explained by something as innocent as a lack of insulin.

Just now, TheDark said:

Humanity is one of those things, these rollers like nauseus, have difficulties to understand. 

 

Most of the people are good. Most of the people wish well to other human beings. Most of the people are willing to go extra mile to do so.

 

It might not be in your culture, but be assured, it's part of the most cultures. 

 

I'm sure there will be others, like you, who will go against ideology of being kind to others. Oh.. evangib seems to have already replied.. I'm sure she is possessing her thoughts along with you. 

How does offering an opposing view render nausious or myself any less good at this 'humanity' lark than anyone else?

10 minutes ago, TheDark said:

Humanity is one of those things, these rollers like nauseus, have difficulties to understand. 

 

Most of the people are good. Most of the people wish well to other human beings. Most of the people are willing to go extra mile to do so.

 

It might not be in your culture, but be assured, it's part of the most cultures. 

 

I'm sure there will be others, like you, who will go against ideology of being kind to others. Oh.. evangib seems to have already replied.. I'm sure she is possessing her thoughts along with you. 

So what did I say there to show how inhumane I am? Quote me.