Protesters burn down Wendy's in Atlanta after police shooting

[Harveyg]

If this was Thailand wouldn’t someone just wake him up?  On the other hand he may have been drunk driving.  The cops had his car.  He wasn’t going to drive anywhere.  

[Bluespunk]

4 hours ago, Why Me said:

Fights the officers, grabs their taser, flees on foot and then stops to aim what's in his hand, maybe the taser, maybe not, at the officers. I would say that's grounds for being shot at.

"Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms said she had accepted the prompt resignation of police chief Shields.

 

"I do not believe that this was a justified use of deadly force and have called for the immediate termination of the officer," Bottoms said at an afternoon news conference.

 

I'd say that it isn't cause to be killed, after all TASERs are touted as being a non lethal weapon.

 

Let's hope the officers involved face the full rigour of the law and let the courts decide.

 

Edited June 15, 2020 by Bluespunk

[kensawadee]

13 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I'm not against shooting looters in the leg, not at all. I'm just saying the gun is there for when the cop fears for his life or the life of others. You can change the laws but not many have the skills to put the bullet in the leg only.

Then 3 shots to the leg(s) if the first don't stop them.... but can't you see the picture I am seeing?????? You fire a gun and those behind will run for safety.... thereby stopping the looting and catching their lerader at the same time.......

[Eric Loh]

Pity that the idea of warning shots has been prohibited for decades in policing even though it is allowed in police documents. It should be thoroughly re-examined and brought back with better rules and training. 

[izod10]

BLM  to whom exactly? not themselves obviously ,burning,looting their own communities.   Most blacks simply are totally and completely unemployable,period.   What happens then?free money is wanted     

  

   This how it is,always will be,nothing will change unless the police use tactics to render the rioting ineffective...shoot more

[ratcatcher]

Flame broiling taken literally.

[Traubert]

5 hours ago, OZinPattaya said:

Really, how much more absurd can this get?

Oh there's a way to go yet. This is America, world police.

[Joinaman]

3 hours ago, robblok said:

Stupid remark, apartheid is worse then anything. I bet if you take a vote in South Africa the majority would not want to go back to it. Some whites might, and some previously privileged blacks perhaps. But all on all no black wants to go back to a time where they would get murdered and whites would get off without a trial. People ended up disapearing never to be heard from again. 

Was this happening when the so called Great Nelson Mandela was running the country ? The hundreds of blacks who were murdered and disapeared, The blacks who were promised good housing, fresh water and sanitation, jobs, etc. And how did that work out ? How about the blacks who murdered and stole the farms from the whites, the same white who managed to make that part the bread basket, with jobs for thousands of people, how are they doing now that they have the land back ? 

[Stargeezr]

Yes the police officer should be charged with 2nd degree murder.

Wendy's get burned down, why?, what is the great excuse to do that?

  Crazy America. How is that for a reason?

Geezer

[buick]

in the video, you can hear/see the cop tell the guy to drive his car over to a parking spot and sleep it off.  the officer was planning to leave the scene at that time.  but the guy fell asleep in the car again and never moved !!!  so the cop had to go back again and at that point the 'free pass' he got before was gone.   time for arrest.

 

 

[holy cow cm]

Sorry but he got what he deserved. No normal person does that and then expects to live. In this case black - white - purple - yellow rainbow color, he deserved to be shot and killed. 

[loong]

4 hours ago, MJKT2014 said:

Yep, in some warped society where gun laws are as they are. In the rest of the world falling asleep in ones car wouldn't result in being killed by the police.

He was not killed for falling asleep in his car. Don't be so ridiculous!

He was apparently drunk and asleep behind the wheel of his car, so obviously anybody that he may have possibly killed (black or white) while drunk driving didn't concern him.

The officers attempted to take him into custody, but he escaped. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the officers were concerned of being judged as using too much force and that is why he managed to escape. He turned and pointed something at the officers. That is why he was shot, not for sleeping. The officer may well have thought that the guy was aiming a gun at him, who knows.

Seems to me that they were a bit quick to fire the officer. There should be an unbiased investigation first.

 

[Baerboxer]

8 hours ago, OZinPattaya said:

Well, at least the real problem has been addressed. A white female police chief has been replaced by a black police chief. Should definitely solve whatever issues may present themselves in the future. I mean, she was a white person, and she was the police chief. Obviously the only option here is resignation.

 

Meanwhile the young black female Mayor decrees he must be sacked immediately. How dare he use his weapon to defend himself when a person, over the drink drive limit, violently resists arrest, grabs a taser of an officer runs turns, and aims what might be the taser or could've been another weapon.

 

So the deceased's family think that if someone beats up the police and runs there's no right to shoot them!

 

I watched the video. He was clearly slurring his words when woke up and had been out celebrating. Failed the breath test, which he took peacefully, then decided to fight and run. Why did he suddenly decide to resist arrest? What was he afraid of? If he'd been cuffed and gone quietly he'd be alive.

 

What their seems to be is a growing idea black people should now be above the law, especially if being enforced by white officers. This is being pandered too by patronizing politicians and so called celebrities. 

 

I trust the police union will be wanting to discuss the summary dismissal by a black Mayor of a white officer - as she may be racist.

[Baerboxer]

11 minutes ago, loong said:

He was not killed for falling asleep in his car. Don't be so ridiculous!

He was apparently drunk and asleep behind the wheel of his car, so obviously anybody that he may have possibly killed (black or white) while drunk driving didn't concern him.

The officers attempted to take him into custody, but he escaped. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the officers were concerned of being judged as using too much force and that is why he managed to escape. He turned and pointed something at the officers. That is why he was shot, not for sleeping. The officer may well have thought that the guy was aiming a gun at him, who knows.

Seems to me that they were a bit quick to fire the officer. There should be an unbiased investigation first.

 

 

A totally sane common sense post based on reality.

 

But the politically correct won't like that. They don't do reality.

[Baerboxer]

34 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

Sorry but he got what he deserved. No normal person does that and then expects to live. In this case black - white - purple - yellow rainbow color, he deserved to be shot and killed. 

 

If you decide to violently resist lawful arrest you have to expect the worst.

 

 

[ballpoint]

Where's the beef?

[Baerboxer]

2 hours ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

Yes the police officer should be charged with 2nd degree murder.

Wendy's get burned down, why?, what is the great excuse to do that?

  Crazy America. How is that for a reason?

Geezer

 

2nd degree murder - your're joking? Did you watch the video? How about a non biased, non political, real investigation before deciding on any charges?

[Baerboxer]

3 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

"Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms said she had accepted the prompt resignation of police chief Shields.

 

"I do not believe that this was a justified use of deadly force and have called for the immediate termination of the officer," Bottoms said at an afternoon news conference.

 

I'd say that it isn't cause to be killed, after all TASERs are touted as being a non lethal weapon.

 

Let's hope the officers involved face the full rigour of the law and let the courts decide.

 

 

So if you were an officer in Atlanta, and a drunk driver who failed a breath test, suddenly turned violent while being arrested, fought with and escaped from the officers, stealing a taser and running off, turned and aimed something, which might be the taser, might be a gun he had, you'd do what?

 

Remember you have a split second to decide and your life might depend on the call you make?

 

If the drunk driver had a gun, and shot the police, would you be calling for him to face the full rigour of the law too?

[holy cow cm]

6 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

What their seems to be is a growing idea black people should now be above the law, especially if being enforced by white officers.

And what will happen next is his family will receive millions of tax payer dollars as a settlement. So BS!

He resisted, fought, got a taser looking like gun from the officer, ran, pointed it, and yes it could have been a different weapon. So the officer fired and killed him, and so be it. I would never have done that, and if I had then he was totally inline to shoot and kill me as well. All Lives matter. just seems blacks pull more resisting than any other race.

 

 

[EVENKEEL]

2 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

So if you were an officer in Atlanta, and a drunk driver who failed a breath test, suddenly turned violent while being arrested, fought with and escaped from the officers, stealing a taser and running off, turned and aimed something, which might be the taser, might be a gun he had, you'd do what?

 

Remember you have a split second to decide and your life might depend on the call you make?

 

If the drunk driver had a gun, and shot the police, would you be calling for him to face the full rigour of the law too?

The one thing that's hard to explain is that the guy was shot twice in the back.

[ThailandRyan]

Wow, now I see that Wendy's can serve there burgers Char Broiled!

[Scott Tracy]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

Lawyers representing the family of Brooks told reporters that Atlanta police had no right to use deadly force even if he had fired the TASER, a non-lethal weapon, in their direction.

 

"You can't shoot somebody unless they are pointing a gun at you," attorney Chris Stewart said.

I don't know where these lawyers live, but, even if I'm not a cop and I have a firearm in that situation, damn right I'd shoot. Someone points a taser or something that I could possibly identify as a handgun at me and I have a handgun, I'd sure use it.

 

and I can't find where it says he was shot in the back twice?

Edited June 15, 2020 by Scott Tracy
Added question about being shot in the back

[ThailandRyan]

A Taser has the ability to render a person temporarily disabled for up to 20 seconds.  During that time a person who turns it on an officer can remove the officers handgun and shoot the officer with his own weapon.  So in this case I see it as a no win situation for the man who took the taser and aimed it at the police officer.

[loong]

37 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

The one thing that's hard to explain is that the guy was shot twice in the back.

As it is confirmed only that the guy turned and pointed something at the officers (apparently on a video that I haven't seen) he could possibly have not turned fully to face the officers, but we can only guess. There is also the possibility that as multiple shots were fired, he may have taken a shot in the arm that spun him round.

It is not at all difficult to explain possibilities, but proper unbiased investigation may reveal the truth.

[spiekerjozef]

Blame it on Wendy

[loong]

39 minutes ago, Scott Tracy said:

I don't know where these lawyers live, but, even if I'm not a cop and I have a firearm in that situation, damn right I'd shoot. Someone points a taser or something that I could possibly identify as a handgun at me and I have a handgun, I'd sure use it.

 

and I can't find where it says he was shot in the back twice?

Elsewhere it has been reported that the autopsy revealed that he took 2 shots in the back.

[spiekerjozef]

45 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

The one thing that's hard to explain is that the guy was shot twice in the back.

Do they still believe in that nonsense they always come up with:  "guns don't kill people..."'

[evadgib]

39 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

A Taser has the ability to render a person temporarily disabled for up to 20 seconds.  During that time a person who turns it on an officer can remove the officers handgun and shoot the officer with his own weapon.  So in this case I see it as a no win situation for the man who took the taser and aimed it at the police officer.

That was my first thought when I saw the clip on the news earlier too.

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

 

So if you were an officer in Atlanta, and a drunk driver who failed a breath test, suddenly turned violent while being arrested, fought with and escaped from the officers, stealing a taser and running off, turned and aimed something, which might be the taser, might be a gun he had, you'd do what?

 

Remember you have a split second to decide and your life might depend on the call you make?

 

If the drunk driver had a gun, and shot the police, would you be calling for him to face the full rigour of the law too?

The cop has been fired.

 

I think that says enough about what should have been done.

[EVENKEEL]

13 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

The cop has been fired.

 

I think that says enough about what should have been done.

it says the Police Chief is trying hard to cover his or her own ass. Perhaps blm can start providing the Black public with training. Don't fight cops when they cuff you. It's a bad idea to take a cops taser.