Any word on automatic extension of visas for tourists beyond July 31?

[csaba81]

On the 20th of June it was announced that Thailand likely won't resume international flights until September. I can't see that fitting in with the July 31 expiration of the visa extension.  

[Upnotover]

International flights out of Thailand have never stopped.  There aren't so many and the choice of destinations is limited but if people really want to get out they can.

[ubonjoe]

No info about the amnesty being extended yet. I would say the earliest they will make a announcement about it is mid July.

[EbhB]

The myriad of variables going into that decision makes it impossible for anyone to guess, for sure...

 

But one of the most important of those must be the land borders, if none are open before the end of the amnesty some way of staying on would probably materialise.

 

Another is the travel bubbles, but those cannot absorb ALL the people who need to do some type of border run.

 

Personally I'll simply set aside the last week of July for checking options, airfares & any information being released - and then be prepared for almost any kind of travel to any country in the region ????

[jimn]

No one knows. By the way it was not an announcement, just an opinion expressed. If I had to guess I would think they would start to give anyone on a tourist visa notice that they have to leave by xxx date, no excuse as there are outgoing flights. Anyone on an extension of stay should be renewing as normal. Anyone on a single or multi non o, I suspect they will renew the amnesty.

[itsallmine68]

Any word on automatic extension of visas for tourists beyond July 31?

ANSWER- NOPE

[notmyself]

17 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

No info about the amnesty being extended yet. I would say the earliest they will make a announcement about it is mid July.

 

That would be my take too. If they do choose to extend the amnesty then not much work is required to do so. Nod of the head.... not even a day. However, if that is their plan then announcing it earlier rather than later would be better all around. When are inbound due? 1st September? Extend until the end of September. Big problem 'they' face is that obviously self supporting paying customers have to exit the building from time to time and when they try to re-enter, the door will be locked. 

 

[Max69xl]

19 hours ago, EbhB said:

The myriad of variables going into that decision makes it impossible for anyone to guess, for sure...

 

But one of the most important of those must be the land borders, if none are open before the end of the amnesty some way of staying on would probably materialise.

 

Another is the travel bubbles, but those cannot absorb ALL the people who need to do some type of border run.

 

Personally I'll simply set aside the last week of July for checking options, airfares & any information being released - and then be prepared for almost any kind of travel to any country in the region ????

I don't think travel bubbles have anything to do with border runs for stranded foreigners. 

[OJAS]

2 hours ago, Max69xl said:

I don't think travel bubbles have anything to do with border runs for stranded foreigners. 

Except that, were border runs to become possible again before any travel bubbles had been established with neighbouring countries, border runners would then, as things currently stand, have to self-isolate for 14 days after re-entering Thailand - or even be denied re-entry into Thailand altogether if they hadn't already subscribed to a 100k USD COVID-19 health insurance policy. One would hope that aspiring border runners who were in blissful ignorance of these particular requirements would, in practice, be stopped in their tracks on the Thai side of the border, but this being Thailand........

[ubonjoe]

1 hour ago, OJAS said:

Except that, were border runs to become possible again before any travel bubbles had been established with neighbouring countries, border runners would then, as things currently stand, have to self-isolate for 14 days after re-entering Thailand - or even be denied re-entry into Thailand altogether if they hadn't already subscribed to a 100k USD COVID-19 health insurance policy. One would hope that aspiring border runners who were in blissful ignorance of these particular requirements would, in practice, be stopped in their tracks on the Thai side of the border, but this being Thailand........

If they open the borders crossings they will likely have different rules than those when entering by air.

At first I think it will only be for Thais and those from neighboring countries.

[crazykopite]

At the moment anyone who enters Thailand has to have the following two requirements

1, Insurance policy for $100,000 stating in writing that the individual is fully insured against Covid 19 ( This applies only to foreigners)

 

2 , A medical certificate no older than 72 hours before re entering Thailand ( This includes Thai nationals as well ) stating they are free of Covid 19 virus

I can see a lot of foreigners doing border runs but being turned away when trying to re enter the Kingdom , my wife is currently stranded in the U.K. and says it’s impossible to get both these requirements.

 

 

[MagnumForce]

5 hours ago, crazykopite said:

1, Insurance policy for $100,000 stating in writing that the individual is fully insured against Covid 19 ( This applies only to foreigners)

Has anyone heard if foreigners with Thai Social Insurance (Prakarn Sankhom) are exempt from this requirement? 

[Nong Khai Man]

On 6/27/2020 at 10:18 AM, jimn said:

No one knows. By the way it was not an announcement, just an opinion expressed. If I had to guess I would think they would start to give anyone on a tourist visa notice that they have to leave by xxx date, no excuse as there are outgoing flights. Anyone on an extension of stay should be renewing as normal. Anyone on a single or multi non o, I suspect they will renew the amnesty.

Anyone on a single or multi non o, I suspect they will renew the amnesty......I Hope They DO......

[Nong Khai Man]

On 6/26/2020 at 4:58 PM, ubonjoe said:

No info about the amnesty being extended yet. I would say the earliest they will make a announcement about it is mid July.

Well Joe, I Think I'm Covered,Already Booked Hotel in Savanakhet for Last Week of July,But If they extend The Amnesty I can cancel same WITHOUT being Charged, So I'll just CANCEL...

Heard There was going to be an announcement either Tomorrow Or The Next Day.....TiT !!

[jimn]

Yes announcement tomorrow about the enterainment industry, but I doubt very much about the Visa amnesty. I suspect as UJ said it could be mid July at the earliest, however you have to look at their history when they make decisions. Almost every major decision they make, they leave it until the last minute to announce it. Dont be surprised if they leave it until 29th or 30th July.

[Nong Khai Man]

3 minutes ago, jimn said:

Yes announcement tomorrow about the enterainment industry, but I doubt very much about the Visa amnesty. I suspect as UJ said it could be mid July at the earliest, however you have to look at their history when they make decisions. Almost every major decision they make, they leave it until the last minute to announce it. Dont be surprised if they leave it until 29th or 30th July.

Almost every major decision they make, they leave it until the last minute to announce it. Dont be surprised if they leave it until 29th or 30th July.......I Know they make some Incredible announcements ,BUT Can't see them being that stupid,They'd have a STAMPEDE at The Borders If they Didn't Extend it BEFORE Then....

[SODS]

4 hours ago, Nong Khai Man said:

Anyone on a single or multi non o, I suspect they will renew the amnesty......I Hope They DO......

Which Non O are you referring to? Tourist? Ret Ext? Marriage Ext?

[drbeach]

3 hours ago, Nong Khai Man said:

Almost every major decision they make, they leave it until the last minute to announce it. Dont be surprised if they leave it until 29th or 30th July.......I Know they make some Incredible announcements ,BUT Can't see them being that stupid,They'd have a STAMPEDE at The Borders If they Didn't Extend it BEFORE Then....

I agree; I think now they have had some experience with this so they should be able to make announcements sooner.

 

For instance, with the flight ban extension announced last month in effect until June 30, they announced it some 10 days before the end of the month. Better than the previous month, where they only gave 3-4 days notice. The amnesty extension from April 30 to July 31 was announced roughly around April 23 if I remember correctly, but I would presume this time around, they should be able to provide some clarity well before then (by July 15 or earlier, if possible).

 

I see no reason why they can't make a formal announcement in early July, seeing that the Thai government's recent approach during this crisis has been to make monthly extensions of their emergency laws.

 

Myanmar is even worse; they know extensions should be made in monthly increments, but they prefer to wait until 2-4 days before they expire and make decisions every 15 days. The latest out of that country is: corona virus restrictions to remain until July 15 (which includes the continuation of their 12am to 4am curfew), but 99% likely to continue until at least July 31 in my opinion.

 

This also lines up with the possible re-opening of Myanmar on August 1, as has been vaguely hinted at in the Myanmar Times.

 

I wouldn't necessarily count on Myanmar opening by then, or for that matter, Thailand allowing easy re-entry.

[MagnumForce]

20 hours ago, MagnumForce said:

On 6/27/2020 at 4:28 PM, crazykopite said:

1, Insurance policy for $100,000 stating in writing that the individual is fully insured against Covid 19 ( This applies only to foreigners)

Has anyone heard if foreigners with Thai Social Insurance (Prakarn Sankhom) are exempt from this requirement? 

Just a little bump...????

[JackThompson]

21 hours ago, drbeach said:

I see no reason why they can't make a formal announcement in early July, seeing that the Thai government's recent approach during this crisis has been to make monthly extensions of their emergency laws.

Agree - but I will be giving notice on my apt July 1, if no news.  I must give 30 days to get my deposit back, and may have to leave Thailand by July 31.   I may not know where I am going (Guam?), but not going to overstay.

 

17 hours ago, MagnumForce said:

On 6/27/2020 at 10:12 PM, MagnumForce said:

On 6/27/2020 at 4:28 PM, crazykopite said:

1, Insurance policy for $100,000 stating in writing that the individual is fully insured against Covid 19 ( This applies only to foreigners)

Has anyone heard if foreigners with Thai Social Insurance (Prakarn Sankhom) are exempt from this requirement? 

Just a little bump...????

YES - would like to know this too.  Could be critical if/when I can return to Thailand if/when I have to leave - all those also being "known-unknowns." 
 

Do we have reports of it being accepted for Non-OA folks who need insurance?  May not matter, but good to know if immigration recognizes this insurance in any context.

[drbeach]

Myanmar will remain closed until July 31st at the earliest (confirmed yesterday by the Myanmar Times). So no option of leaving the country to do a visa or border run to that country until August.

[drbeach]

2 hours ago, JackThompson said:

Agree - but I will be giving notice on my apt July 1, if no news.  I must give 30 days to get my deposit back, and may have to leave Thailand by July 31.   I may not know where I am going (Guam?), but not going to overstay.

 

YES - would like to know this too.  Could be critical if/when I can return to Thailand if/when I have to leave - all those also being "known-unknowns." 
 

Do we have reports of it being accepted for Non-OA folks who need insurance?  May not matter, but good to know if immigration recognizes this insurance in any context.

Ouch! I hope you can still keep your job if you do need to leave by July 31 seeing it could take until next year to be allowed back in (though work permit and marriage visa holders can reportedly come back now, after seeking permission through a Thai consular office abroad, but then you'd need to do 14 days of quarantine on arrival). In that case, it's likely to take you well over a month before you could be back to your job in Thailand, after having left, assuming you contact a Thai consulate on the day of arrival back in the States.

 

How does one get to an extremely small and isolated outpost like Guam from here, especially at the present time, with limited international flights? I'd rather opt for a "normal" place like Los Angeles or San Francisco, if you need to return to the States in the meantime. There is also no Thai consular office in Guam that I'm aware of.

 

If I were you, I'd speak with my apartment landlord to say you may be leaving by the end of the month, but if new information comes to light in the meantime allowing you to remain beyond July 31, to repeal your notice of leaving. Or you could move into a new apartment from August 1 onward, in case you can continue staying in Thailand.

 

There is still a 50-50 chance of an amnesty extension in my opinion, however, I don't see it being for more than 1, or max. 2 additional months. The other possibility is they may allow a month-to-month extension upon payment of a fee, until things normalize.