rooster59 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Man 'mistaken to be animal' allegedly killed by friend while hunting By THE NATION A hunting expedition by friends went fatally wrong when one friend allegedly shot dead another apparently mistaking him to be an animal. Lamphun police requested the provincial court for police custody of accused Weerachai Rorwongtawan, 29, on Friday (July 3), after he had allegedly shot dead his friend, Phitsunu Tanupetchpan, while hunting with two other friends on Thursday (July 2). The suspect said that he had invited his friends to go hunting with him for wild animals. He said that he and his friend were in opposite areas. When he saw something moving among bamboo trees, he thought it was an animal and fired his gun. Weerachai said he was shocked to hear the cries of his friend. He quickly decided to call the police and an ambulance. Phitsunu died later. Police have confiscated the gun and are questioning Weerachai and the other friends. The men were charged with use of narcotics after urine tests. However, the dead man’s brother, 35, pointed to inconsistencies in the alleged killer’s account. He said that Weerachai had told him he thought his younger brother was a wild cat and hence he had shot him. But when questioned by police, he had said he thought his friend was a rat and so shot him. He also said Weerachai did not confess initially that he had shot his brother, and instead told him it was an accident, he added. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30390786 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-07-05 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarteso Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, rooster59 said: The men were charged with use of narcotics after urine tests. 6 minutes ago, rooster59 said: he thought his younger brother was a wild cat and hence he had shot him. But when questioned by police, he had said he thought his friend was a rat and so shot him. Darwin.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 He said that he and his friend were in opposite areas Yep, sounds like a good idea when your friend isn't visible to you.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sweatalot Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) So they go killing on a murder party to shoot innocent animals just for fun If they see an animal, no matter what kind, they think they have the right to kill it. For no other reason than primitive lust of murder. Those human animals are below animals How somebody can get satisfaction by doing this is beyond me. Repulsive Edited July 4, 2020 by sweatalot 19 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 Just now, sweatalot said: So they go killing on a murder party to shoot innocent animals just for fun Maybe they were hungry? 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post colinneil Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 Unbelievable, men go off hunting, ohh something moved so he shot it. What a bloody brain dead individual, first thing you do is make sure you know what it is your going to be shooting, not this clown, bang i shot it, thought it was a rat. Size of a man, to the size of a rat, big difference. 19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Odysseus123 Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, colinneil said: Size of a man, to the size of a rat, big difference. The size of rats can vary greatly if you are taking narcotics... Some hunting party.eh? 3 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Aforek Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, colinneil said: Unbelievable, men go off hunting, ohh something moved so he shot it. What a bloody brain dead individual, first thing you do is make sure you know what it is your going to be shooting, not this clown, bang i shot it, thought it was a rat. Size of a man, to the size of a rat, big difference. It happens every year in western countries ; there are people who have killed their father, brother, or son ... hunting for wild boars for instance ... they see or hear something moving and they shot I wonder what happens then, if they go to jail 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 I'm sure there are a bunch of animals out there laughing their head off saying Som na Na, but seriously, had they were wearing hi-vis gear no one would have mistaken anyone for an animal because simply put, animals don't wear them... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fredwiggy Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, sweatalot said: So they go killing on a murder party to shoot innocent animals just for fun If they see an animal, no matter what kind, they think they have the right to kill it. For no other reason than primitive lust of murder. Those human animals are below animals How somebody can get satisfaction by doing this is beyond me. Repulsive I'm a hunter and unlike yourself, am educated in game management and carrying capacity of land. Hunting is necessary in areas where game is overpopulating it's habitat, which is most places, mainly because of loss of habitat by greedy land developers who value cash over the earth's resources. If game is allowed to overpopulate, they use up the available resources and end up going into areas they wouldn't normally do. Backyards, highways, and crossing more roads looking for food. This makes opportunities for animal/vehicle collisions, something which in the United States alone, kills over 200 people a year. Also, the meat gained from hunting not only feeds millions of families a year, but a lot is donated to homeless shelters so they can have more to eat. A lot of animals aren't "innocent' like you say. Deer alone kill more than 7 people in the US from attacks. bears, mountain lions and tigers kill over 100 people a year, and elephants 350 or more. Some animals aren't supposed to be hunted, as in Tigers and Elephants in much of their range, but if they are again, allowed to overpopulate, they cause trouble. Thailand doesn't have any legal hunting, and these people were already breaking the law. Several people are killed every year by others mistaking them for deer like game. Thinking a person is a rat is beyond logic. Being drunk or on drugs isn't an excuse. If he said he thought it was a leopard, deer or tiger, which of course are illegal anyway here, it might make more sense. This sounds like an intentional shooting to me. Edited July 5, 2020 by fredwiggy 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 hours ago, rooster59 said: The men were charged with use of narcotics the defence rests your honor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 so what's it gunna be ...... a rat or a cat ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluesofa Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, colinneil said: Unbelievable, men go off hunting, ohh something moved so he shot it. What a bloody brain dead individual, first thing you do is make sure you know what it is your going to be shooting, not this clown, bang i shot it, thought it was a rat. Size of a man, to the size of a rat, big difference. It's an elementary mistake anyone could make, my dear Watson: 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluesofa Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Aforek said: It happens every year in western countries ; there are people who have killed their father, brother, or son ... hunting for wild boars for instance ... they see or hear something moving and they shot I wonder what happens then, if they go to jail Go directly to jail, do not pass wind go. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredwiggy Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Aforek said: It happens every year in western countries ; there are people who have killed their father, brother, or son ... hunting for wild boars for instance ... they see or hear something moving and they shot I wonder what happens then, if they go to jail Most have to just live with it. Hard to prove intent on a hunting trip. Had someone shoot near me while hunting in New Jersey years back. Kind of surprised them when I yelled at them. Edited July 5, 2020 by fredwiggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, fredwiggy said: I'm a hunter and unlike yourself, am educated in game management and carrying capacity of land. Hunting is necessary in areas where game is overpopulating it's habitat, which is most places, mainly because of loss of habitat by greedy land developers who value cash over the earth's resources. If game is allowed to overpopulate, they use up the available resources and end up going into areas they wouldn't normally do. Backyards, highways, and crossing more roads looking for food. This makes opportunities for animal/vehicle collisions, something which in the United States alone, kills over 200 people a year. Also, the meat gained from hunting not only feeds millions of families a year, but a lot is donated to homeless shelters so they can have more to eat. A lot of animals aren't "innocent' like you say. Deer alone kill more than 7 people in the US from attacks. bears, mountain lions and tigers kill over 100 people a year, and elephants 350 or more. Some animals aren't supposed to be hunted, as in Tigers and Elephants in much of their range, but if they are again, allowed to overpopulate, they cause trouble. Thailand doesn't have any legal hunting, and these people were already breaking the law. Several people are killed every year by others mistaking them for deer like game. Thinking a person is a rat is beyond logic. Being drunk or on drugs isn't an excuse. If he said he thought it was a leopard, deer or tiger, which of course are illegal anyway here, it might make more sense. This sounds like an intentional shooting to me. I agree with you. But this "hunting party" - do you think they were educated in game management and doing their jobs for the good reasons that you are naming? And those dangerous animals that can kill people - I think in most cases it is because the human made a mistake like intruding the animals area or coming close to their cubs. Shooting in self defence would be ok then Edited July 5, 2020 by sweatalot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredwiggy Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Just now, sweatalot said: I agree with you. But this "hunting party" - do you think they were educated in game management and doing their jobs for the good reasons that you are naming? And those dangerous animals that can kill people - I think in most cases it is because the human made a mistake like intruding the animals area or coming close to their cubs. Shooting in self defence would be ok then People are constantly encroaching on dangerous game's habitat, and encounters are inevitable. In India, many people die from crocodile attacks because they use the rivers or washing, bathing or swimming. And from Tigers also because their villages border tiger habitat.Mountain lions kill every year in California and Colorado because people are moving into their territory. This wasn't a hunting party. This was illegal hunting in Thailand. And shooting a man thinking he's a rat? People are hungry and will do anything they can to eat, especially with Covid taking jobs away. I wouldn't blame anyone shooting a few rats to feed their family. rats aren't a game species and we have too many of them. But I've hunter over 45 years and only once did I raise my gun to look through my scope when I saw something move far away, and it was a person. Scared me so bad that it never happened again, mainly because I from then on brought binoculars with me to check on any movement. I don't know what kind of dug would make you think a man was a rat, because even LSD wouldn't do that. This was either intentional or a quick shot from a very irresponsible person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MJKT2014 Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, fredwiggy said: I'm a hunter and unlike yourself, am educated I don't know but somehow opening statements like this rub me up the wrong way. These were just a few drugged up Somchais with guns and so incidents happen be they intentional or not. The nice professional hunters can sleep well knowing their business is untarnished. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bender Rodriguez Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 can I invite my ex-wife for one of them hunting accidents ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Aussie Chiang Mai Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Thought all the wild animals been killed off long a go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 hours ago, ezzra said: I'm sure there are a bunch of animals out there laughing their head off saying Som na Na, but seriously, had they were wearing hi-vis gear no one would have mistaken anyone for an animal because simply put, animals don't wear them... but the animals can see them, Rather defeats the object? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Guns are for professionally trained soldiers, not civilians who like to play out being a hero in some kind of war movie. Unless you are hungry and have to do it to survive, I have never understood the need to murder animals for 'sport'. Maybe if the animals could shoot back, it would be a different story, then you could watch all these 'mighty hunters' run back to their mama. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnray Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Hunting should be banned. A bunch of stoners wondering around shooting each other. It's easier to go to the supermarket. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dap Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, fredwiggy said: Mountain lions kill every year in California and Colorado because people are moving into their territory. My search found that there have been 27 documented human fatalities (from mountain lion attacks) in the entire U.S. in the last 100 years, two of which were adult women in California in 1994 and I found no records of fatalities in Colorado. Edited July 5, 2020 by Dap 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodga Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 5 hours ago, rooster59 said: He quickly decided to call the police and an ambulance. Phitsunu died later. as opposed to what? slowly calling. Either way why are Thai men obsessed with hunting, if it moves kill it seems to be the motto. ORANGE jackets warn in sensible countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 hours ago, fredwiggy said: People are constantly encroaching on dangerous game's habitat, and encounters are inevitable. In India, many people die from crocodile attacks because they use the rivers or washing, bathing or swimming. And from Tigers also because their villages border tiger habitat.Mountain lions kill every year in California and Colorado because people are moving into their territory. This wasn't a hunting party. This was illegal hunting in Thailand. And shooting a man thinking he's a rat? People are hungry and will do anything they can to eat, especially with Covid taking jobs away. I wouldn't blame anyone shooting a few rats to feed their family. rats aren't a game species and we have too many of them. But I've hunter over 45 years and only once did I raise my gun to look through my scope when I saw something move far away, and it was a person. Scared me so bad that it never happened again, mainly because I from then on brought binoculars with me to check on any movement. I don't know what kind of dug would make you think a man was a rat, because even LSD wouldn't do that. This was either intentional or a quick shot from a very irresponsible person. Drugs / alcohol included don't make you think a animal is a man. They just make you careless. Its irresponsible to be high (or drunk) and hunt. Anyone with a gun should be sober. Just read the article of the drunk guy who shot a cop. Alcohol / drugs and guns don't mix. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bodga Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Bruce Aussie Chiang Mai said: Thought all the wild animals been killed off long a go. not according to fatboy at Thai Ital 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Pilotman said: but the animals can see them, Rather defeats the object? Many animals are colorblind and deer can not see the color orange. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Going hunting with guns,while high on drugs......what could possibly go wrong...and it did. regards worgeordie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Just now, jvs said: Many animals are colorblind and deer can not see the color orange. it's the reflective surface they can see, colour is irrelevant. Isn't that why these mighty, hunters wear combat kit, or is that just them living out their Vietnam Hero fantasy ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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