Is My O Visa Truly Expired?

[sometimewoodworker]

On 7/12/2020 at 5:10 PM, jimmyz said:

he is on amnesty anything that he was on before amnesty still count, that being said you can do your extension of any kind on the last day before it is expired, does not have to be 1 or 2 week ahead of time

That may be your opinion. However immigration officials are neither bound by your opinion nor do many of them agree with you.

 

You are giving very bad (and in most cases wrong) advice.

 

Its the immigration officials who decide not you. It’s the immigration officer’s opinion about accepting a late application that matters. My local office may accept an application that is up to a week late, they will not accept ones over that.

 

immigration officials are processing 1 year extensions in virtually the same way as always. 

[Myran]

3 hours ago, jimmyz said:

he was 3,4 days overstay, you think immigration wouldn't collect the overstay fee, he did not pay any overstay fine did he now

Of course he doesn't have to pay an overstay fine – he's not on overstay! The discussion is about whether or not people will be able to extend expired extensions thanks to the amnesty, which several immigration offices have already said no to.

[jimmyz]

this is Headgame post there's no point making a fuss, this is amnesty time not your regular typical time, best thing is to go ask IO directly there's no hurt of doing so, i'm glad that he went down there and got what he wanted, instead of pressuring to use agent, i'm happy for him to get his extension

[Peter Denis]

9 hours ago, jimmyz said:

this is Headgame post there's no point making a fuss, this is amnesty time not your regular typical time, best thing is to go ask IO directly there's no hurt of doing so, i'm glad that he went down there and got what he wanted, instead of pressuring to use agent, i'm happy for him to get his extension

Fully agree that you should visit your local IO to enquire about your Visa status and options.  And this for the simple reason that there is no consistency in how different offices will handle your application after your permission to stay expired.

You did get a Fire-Storm over your posts (and quite rightly so) because you repeatedly stated - even after being corrected - that every local IO would accept your application even with your permission to stay expired.  That is simply not true, and several reports have been posted of IOs where applications on an expired permission to stay were NOT accepted.  So your initial posts could put people on the wrong track, thinking their application will be accepted when they apply for it at the end of the Amnesty and getting a Cold Shower when it is denied at their local IO. 

So hence the indignation for keeping on posting such incorrect info, and I react because you are now 'downplaying it' as 'there's no point making a fuss'.  There definitely is a point and posters spreading incorrect information (and adamantly sticking to such incorrect info) need to be corrected in no uncertain terms.

Note: You seem to have realized you were incorrect as your last post now provides the sound advice that > It is recommended to enquire at your local IO how they will handle your application if the permission to stay already expired during the Amnesty.

Edited July 14, 2020 by Peter Denis

[ImageDude]

11 hours ago, Myran said:

Of course he doesn't have to pay an overstay fine – he's not on overstay! The discussion is about whether or not people will be able to extend expired extensions thanks to the amnesty, which several immigration offices have already said no to.

This is my experience and will certainly differ from office to office and even from officer to officer as is always the case with immigration. I too was awaiting a new passport. I applied for it 5 months in advance to avoid possible visa problems, however, because of Covid-19 precautions and other factors it took 4 months to get the new passport. During that time my permission to stay also expired at the end of May, but my visa didn’t. When I tried to get a Cert, of Residency from local Immigration Office to renew my driving licence, I was told in no uncertain terms, that the visa amnesty only means I won’t be charged an overstay fine but for everything else I am on overstay. So, no flexibility and no joy from them for me.

[jimmyz]

if you listen to these clowns aswell pack up and go home, here we find soultion what work and whats not or try this and that, these clowns will give you discourage and negative affect, aslong as you can help one person get what they want is still better then sitting putting out negative respond you can't do this you can't do that, best way to shut these negative poster up is to ignore their comment and find solution

 

if anybody been here long enought these guy sound like IT TECH if you can remember that guy

Edited July 14, 2020 by jimmyz

[Peter Denis]

2 minutes ago, jimmyz said:

if you listen to these clowns aswell pack up and go home, here we find solution what work and whats not or try this and that, these clowns will give you discourage and negative affect, as long as you can help one person get what they want is still better then sitting putting out negative respond you can't do this you can't do that, best way to shut these negative poster up is to ignore their comment and find solution

I hope you realize that the only Negative Clown on this thread, is yourself by spreading incorrect information and - worse - sticking to it and now attacking those that corrected you.

Only an idiot would label correct information 'negative' if that information rules out certain options.  Your 'positive' information will have negative consequences for those listening to it, when confronted with the reality that some IOs (e.g. Roi Et, Nonthaburi, and others) do NOT accept your application for an extension of stay when your permission to stay has already expired.

Those consulting this thread are in search for correct information and are not served by false 'positive' messages.

 

 

 

[jimmyz]

congratulation Headgame for getting your extension

[Headgame]

Phuket Immigration - Return Visit

 

Sometimes the world unfolds the way it should.

I arrived at Immigration sharp at 9am as told so by the IO from yesterday.

Took me a few minutes to get his attention but when I did he handed me both my old and new passports. He told me to go outside and submit all my docs again.

I didn't ask any questions and as soon as I opened up my new passport, everything became clear.
The IO had added all my O Visa info into my new passport. Thank you.

And he had added all my current Retirement Extension info into my new passport.
As soon as I saw the expiry date was today's date - my hyperventilating ceased immediately.

 

I went and got all my new passport pages, copied, signed and repackaged.
Called into room 103, had the Retirement IO called my number, went up to his desk and saw him apply 9 stamps to my paperwork and passport.
Biometrics and pic taken, paid my 1,900 TBH and told to come back tomorrow at 1pm to pick up my passport.

 

Conclusion:
- Phuket Immigration is awesome.

- Always be prepared to resolve any issues - nothing ventured, nothing gained.

- Never volunteer info like "Hey,  my extension" is overdue. What should I do?

- Be as vague as you can or in my case, be the slightly befuddled senior citizen (easy for me at 76)

- Be super polite and respectful.

- Don't want to say anything that will offend the TV Morality Squad, don't want flames coming my way -but there had been a minor clerical error regarding the filing fees. What can I say? No problem.

 

Thanks to everyone for considering my situation and providing a lot of advice, encouragement and optimism about having a satisfactory resolution.

[Peter Denis]

19 minutes ago, Headgame said:

Phuket Immigration - Return Visit

Sometimes the world unfolds the way it should.

...

Congrats with your successful 1-year extension of stay application.

It was as good as certain that Phuket IO would be lenient in your case, but of course you can never be really 100% sure until you get the passport with the extension stamp.

Now time to celebrate and enjoy the prospect of your next full year in Phuket Paradise.

[Jimmy B]

I had a similar situation. My non o spouse visa extension ran out on June 14th. Phoned them up asking if I could do a 1 year extension with 400k baht seasoned for 2 months and they said yes. I do have a daughter here and they wanted birth certificates and her to sign papers too. Best bet is to phone them up and ask. Every office seems to be different.