Should it really be referred to as a race, other than against time? The headline seems to infer it's a race between countries. Mind you, it probably is considered that way in the industries. Nothing like healthy competition.

52 minutes ago, AndrewMciver said:

China economy growing. The rest of the world struggling. Vaccine comes out. And wouldn't you know it, a mutuation appears coincidentally, wrecking all western economies. Further lock down. China takes over Thailand.

 

It turns Bangkok into wall to wall condos. Nana Plaza also becomes a condo. Because the Chinese love buildings condos ya see. 

If I grab my tinfoil, I'd say I would not be surprised at all if your scenario comes true. Just go and grab a new one from the bat cave in Yunnan, this time preferably after China has the vaccine themselves. Biological warfare 101.

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53 minutes ago, jb61 said:

Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine Induced Adverse Reactions In "More Than Half" Of Trial Participants

 

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/moderna-covid-19-vaccine-induced-adverse-reactions-more-half-trial-participants

I'm not a fan of zerohedge, but yes, that's what the trials are for, finding side effects. That one doesn't look like a release candidate yet.

The whole push for a vaccine has a twofold purpose: 1). BIG money for the developer; 2). Control of populations, with required certificates for travel, schooling, etc. The history of vaccines is fraught with failures and disastrous side effects over the long term, even the short term. Introducing pathogenic virus particles from species alien to the human genetic biometric makeup, along with mercury as an adjuvant, will endanger humankind worldwide to unknown epigenetic distortions. That vaccine developers know this is testimony to their utter disregard for humanity. It's all about the money and control.

Russia is testing it's vaccine on volunteers, interviews with them on RTN today, no mention of them.

There's no way I'm having a Chinese vaccine ! ????

Just look at the lies they told the World about Covid19, you cannot trust them or anything they say.

I'll wait until there is a western developed vaccine.

23 hours ago, Cake Monster said:

I really hope that the UK win this race for a Vaccine against Covid19.

That is not the attitude of some 'academics' at the same university... 

 

Dr Emily Cousens, who teaches at the University of Oxford, said: "If my university is the first to develop the vaccine, I’m worried that it will be used as it has been in the past, to fulfil its political, patriotic function as proof of British excellence.

 

“The story will be clear: China, once again, has unleashed a threat to civilisation. But the best brains of the UK have saved the world.”

.......hang on hang on....China said it was administering a vaccine to its troops NOW.... What happened to THAT story??? This virus is full of just misinformation and pure drivel that, one suspects we are all being purposely played. 

9 hours ago, RickBradford said:

That is not the attitude of some 'academics' at the same university... 

 

Dr Emily Cousens, who teaches at the University of Oxford, said: "If my university is the first to develop the vaccine, I’m worried that it will be used as it has been in the past, to fulfil its political, patriotic function as proof of British excellence.

 

“The story will be clear: China, once again, has unleashed a threat to civilisation. But the best brains of the UK have saved the world.”

That's a good and pretty accurate story, let's hope UK does save the world. Cousens can move to Beijing if she's so worried.

On 7/16/2020 at 5:59 PM, Rookiescot said:

Does the Chinese one contain tiger bone or rhino horn?

Better ask Thai Ital group, they seem to specialise in this

This guy has a interesting take on all the vaccination stuff ...

 

https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/merck-ceo-ken-frazier-speaks-about-a-covid-cure-racism-and-why-leaders-need-to-walk-the-talk

 

 

Considering all the large vaccine scandals in China in the past i'd advice anyone from ever taking Chinese vaccines. Rather wait for a properly tested western one. 

On 7/16/2020 at 6:04 PM, steven100 said:

Australia is far more advanced with a possible COVID-19 vaccine, as it's being tested on humans at the Queensland University. 

where you come from

On 7/16/2020 at 12:04 PM, steven100 said:

Australia is far more advanced with a possible COVID-19 vaccine, as it's being tested on humans at the Queensland University. 

 been tested  uk for at lease 2 months I'd longer so where u get at idea from

On 7/17/2020 at 11:16 AM, Foghorn said:

China had about 8 years advance notice , plus its their virus

Plus the Chinese are trying to steal vaccine research all over the world. 

On 7/18/2020 at 7:26 AM, RickBradford said:

That is not the attitude of some 'academics' at the same university... 

 

Dr Emily Cousens, who teaches at the University of Oxford, said: "If my university is the first to develop the vaccine, I’m worried that it will be used as it has been in the past, to fulfil its political, patriotic function as proof of British excellence.

 

“The story will be clear: China, once again, has unleashed a threat to civilisation. But the best brains of the UK have saved the world.”

They should  lock her  up