Biden, Obama criticize Trump's coronavirus response in 'socially distanced' chat

[dundee48]

13 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

One of whom knows he’s going to removed in the new year.

 

 

Another wait and see prediction from our resident crystal ball expert.

[dundee48]

9 hours ago, Sujo said:

Its nice to see a couple of statesmen having a lucid coherent conversation.

Even biden looked bored listening to Obama,can`t say I blame him.Funnier than Laural and Hardy.

[Why Me]

I liked his economy but the racism and the C-19 debacle is a bit much. I wonder what the jackass will be mumbling as they lead him from the Oval Office:

Person, camera, soldier, woman, telephone, I remembered that. Right? So why didn't they vote for me? No? Wait. I remember now. Person, man, car, tv, pliers. Hang on, woman, carpet, apple, virus. No, no, I don't want to go back to Florida. Ivanka, Junior, Eric, where are you? Help me please. Barr, you can stop this. 

[Thingamabob]

In fact the USA response has been pretty much in line with most western countries if you take account of population size, and the 'dying with' as opposed to 'dying of' the covid19 numbers game.

[Tug]

5 hours ago, dundee48 said:

Even biden looked bored listening to Obama,can`t say I blame him.Funnier than Laural and Hardy.

Guess it wasent up to par with trumps speech on how he can drink with one hand and make it down a ramp without a walker lol or injecting Lysol followed up by the light up the old....... no sorry I just can’t lol.....

[Fairynuff]

3 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

In fact the USA response has been pretty much in line with most western countries if you take account of population size, and the 'dying with' as opposed to 'dying of' the covid19 numbers game.

Not really, the US is only really in line with the UK and Brazil both in leadership style and catastrophic handling of Covid. Even when it comes to mask wearing they’re out of sync with the rest of the world. 

[bendejo]

2 hours ago, Tug said:

Guess it wasent up to par with trumps speech on how he can drink with one hand and make it down a ramp without a walker lol or injecting Lysol followed up by the light up the old....... no sorry I just can’t lol.....

I really miss hearing DT do his routine about toilet flushing and dishwashing machines.  I have no idea what the hell he's talking about but it's fun to watch and to see his fans trying to figure out how to react to it.

 

 

[Meat Pie 47]

13 hours ago, Fairynuff said:

He passed a dementia test. (Just)

Maybe they should give him a lie detector test as well

[Fairynuff]

11 minutes ago, Meat Pie 47 said:

Maybe they should give him a lie detector test as well

The machine would overheat and explode.

[Fairynuff]

23 minutes ago, bendejo said:

I really miss hearing DT do his routine about toilet flushing and dishwashing machines.  I have no idea what the hell he's talking about but it's fun to watch and to see his fans trying to figure out how to react to it.

 

 

It’s only his disciples who really know what he’s talking about. For normal people the babbling of a toddler makes more sense.

[Tie Dye Samurai]

On 7/23/2020 at 11:21 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

It would be difficult  to find anything Trump has done worthy of praise.

 

TWO conservative justices on SCOTUS does fit that. Even if he did nothing else, that made his presidency worthwhile, IMO. Hopefully there will be a third soon.

That is nothing Trump did, it fell in his lap. He was literally in the right place at the right time. You should be crediting The Senator from Kentucky for that more than Trump. If that is the best you have got for a Trump achievement....swing and a miss (in honor of baseball starting)

[galenflagler]

23 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

OK, apart from appointing 2 conservative justices on to SCOTUS (which you frequently tout as if it was the equivalent of Roosevelts New Deal or the Second Coming), what else has he done?  

And what kind of achievement is that anyway? These are exactly the kind of justices any old guard right wing President would have appointed. Wasn't Trump supposed to be different?

[Tie Dye Samurai]

20 hours ago, Mick501 said:

Obama failed his way through 8 years of presidency, and now wants to give advice to one of the greatest ever US presidents.   Can't make this stuff up.

You just made it up....

[Mick501]

On 24 July 2020 at 9:26 PM, Fairynuff said:

Given that America doesn’t really have a president as such, I’m wondering which one you mean.

His name is President Trump.  Rather prominent person if you google him.  Not surprising you wonder about many things if you don't know the name of the US president.

[Fairynuff]

2 hours ago, Mick501 said:

His name is President Trump.  Rather prominent person if you google him.  Not surprising you wonder about many things if you don't know the name of the US president.

Well that went so far above your head you’d need a telescope to see it.

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, Tie Dye Samurai said:

That is nothing Trump did, it fell in his lap. He was literally in the right place at the right time. You should be crediting The Senator from Kentucky for that more than Trump. If that is the best you have got for a Trump achievement....swing and a miss (in honor of baseball starting)

LOL. You think if she had won two conservatives would have been chosen?

You guys are so comical with your desperation to negate anything Trump did.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 7/24/2020 at 9:56 PM, Sujo said:

It also used to be convention for the pres to make his tax returns public.

 

As you were saying?

Stop making things up. It's not required that wannabe presidents have to release tax details, and hasn't happened that long either.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 7/24/2020 at 10:00 PM, Sujo said:

i thought you were an independent and not a trump supporter.

You apparently missed all the dozens of posts I've made saying that I'd vote for anyone but her, and that goes for Biden as well. Given the choice between two very bad candidates one has little choice but to vote for the less bad.

I'd have voted for Gore, against Bush the younger, for Kerry in 2012, and whoever it was against Obama, not because I liked them, but because I liked the opponent less.

I wish there were better candidates to vote FOR, as opposed to voting AGAINST a bad candidate, but apparently good people won't go into politics now, and I can't say I blame them. What "good" person would want anything to do with the media of today, given how poisonous it has become? Even Kennedy would be crucified for his womanising, though it was kept quiet in the 60s.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 7/24/2020 at 10:01 PM, Sujo said:

Its nice to see a couple of statesmen having a lucid coherent conversation.

LOL. There haven't been any "statesmen" in US politics, IMO, since Eisenhower, though Carter had a stab at it. IMO a "statesman" puts country before politics.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 7/25/2020 at 1:38 AM, Morch said:

 

Worthy of praise? It's on par with that cognitive test he's bragging about. Any Republican/conservative/right wing President would have managed two SCOTUS appointments while having a majority. And with less fuss.

What the <deleted> are you on about?

There wasn't any other Republican/conservative/right wing President in power, just Trump.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 7/25/2020 at 6:41 AM, bendejo said:

When Reagan first became president not a week went by without him denouncing "the previous administration."  I wondered if it was actually planned that way "Mr President, you're due for your weekly Carter bashing."  The Rove-Cheney-Bush WH was much more vehement than that.  Obama inherited a dog-pile, but talked about things that needed to be fixed, as opposed to personal attacks -- the guy is a class act.  Guess it's a Republican thing.

 

 

I'll give you that Obama was a class act, but an act was, IMO, the only thing class about him. He'd have made a great lounge singer.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 7/24/2020 at 9:46 PM, johnnybangkok said:

OK, apart from appointing 2 conservative justices on to SCOTUS (which you frequently tout as if it was the equivalent of Roosevelts New Deal or the Second Coming), what else has he done?  

Given as almost everything he tried to do was blocked by the courts, not as much as he should have, but he did manage some of the wall, a lot of people got jobs, blacks did better, he cancelled the revolting Pacific scheme, stuck it to Iran, stuck it to China ( but not as much as he should have ), moved to reduce troop numbers overseas, didn't invade other countries, didn't start a war.

Not too bad a job, given the opposition and having to deal with pointless investigations ( Mueller ) and bound to fail impeachment farce.

Having opened the door to such, it's all going to happen, IMO, to Biden as well, should he become president.

Were it not for the Corona thing he'd be a shoo in in November and it's still likely he'll win again, given the Dems gift of Biden as his opponent.

 

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[Berkshire]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Given as almost everything he tried to do was blocked by the courts, not as much as he should have, but he did manage some of the wall, a lot of people got jobs, blacks did better, he cancelled the revolting Pacific scheme, stuck it to Iran, stuck it to China ( but not as much as he should have ), moved to reduce troop numbers overseas, didn't invade other countries, didn't start a war.

Not too bad a job, given the opposition and having to deal with pointless investigations ( Mueller ) and bound to fail impeachment farce.

Having opened the door to such, it's all going to happen, IMO, to Biden as well, should he become president.

Were it not for the Corona thing he'd be a shoo in in November and it's still likely he'll win again, given the Dems gift of Biden as his opponent.

 

Boy, it seems the remaining Trump supporters really have to defy reality in order to support the guy.  Trump is in big trouble come November and it's entirely of his own creation.  It's who he is.  Even loyal Republicans are bailing....

 

[Jimmy Tosh, who runs a multi-million dollar hog and grain farm in Tennessee, is a lifelong Republican. He is pro-gun, supports lower taxes and agrees with most of Republican President Donald Trump's agenda.

He is also spending his money to help defeat Trump in November's election.

"I agree with 80% of the things he does; I just cannot stand a liar," Tosh, 70, said of Trump.]

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-wealthy-republicans-who-want-to-oust-trump-in-november-s-election/ar-BB1785Oz?li=BBorjTa

[LomSak27]

Lets see. 

 

Republicans post millennium. 

 

Bush jr invades Iraq, supposedly in search of WMD, but in truth, regime change and the neocon dream of remaking the middle east.. This was about as hairbrained as a Churchill plan. And yes disaster ensued.

 

Trump  is elected 2016 . The dumpster fire is lit and never put out. Then pandemic. He ignores US intel, sides with the China dictator lies, tell the 'hoax' virus roars out of control. He then proceeds to do everything wrong that can be done. Now Elvis country, his base is burning with no end in site. This will burn to election day.

 

Can The Republicans get any worse?! Probably not. Glad I am not living there anymore. 

 

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[LomSak27]

22 minutes ago, LomSak27 said:

Can The Republicans get any worse?! Probably not. Glad I am not living there anymore. 

I always forget the third republican conservative nightmare post millennium. The second time the Stock Market almost destroyed the world through deregulation. Phil Gramm is primarily responsible but republicans in both senate and congress were pumped with cash in the trough, and helped with Wall Streets dream of more deregulation

The Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act passed in November 1999, repealing portions of the BHCA and the Glass–Steagall Act, allowing banks, brokerages, and insurance companies to merge. That was a winner!

 

By 2008 it all melted down, and nearly took the country with it. A self made conservative nightmare.  Obama actually saved capitalism. His mistake though was not nailing up a wall street president or two, Obama was too civil and thought reason would work. Not with that crowd.

 

Which leaves us with man child Donald Trump. He gave up on the pandemic last weekend of June 2020. This might be worse than Bush jr's Iraq adventure and the Wall Street cratering. Only time will tell.  

[Thingamabob]

On 7/24/2020 at 9:08 PM, elliss said:

 I just loved the  foot work / dance steps, Obama is showing off, when departing the big bird .

  He made Fred Astaire , look like a novice .

   Just singing and dancing , off the plane ...

 

 

 

Pass the vomit bucket.

[johnnybangkok]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Given as almost everything he tried to do was blocked by the courts, not as much as he should have, but he did manage some of the wall, a lot of people got jobs, blacks did better, he cancelled the revolting Pacific scheme, stuck it to Iran, stuck it to China ( but not as much as he should have ), moved to reduce troop numbers overseas, didn't invade other countries, didn't start a war.

Not too bad a job, given the opposition and having to deal with pointless investigations ( Mueller ) and bound to fail impeachment farce.

Having opened the door to such, it's all going to happen, IMO, to Biden as well, should he become president.

Were it not for the Corona thing he'd be a shoo in in November and it's still likely he'll win again, given the Dems gift of Biden as his opponent.

 

'Given as almost everything he tried to do was blocked by the courts, not as much as he should have...' - if by courts you mean the legislative, when Trump was elected, he controlled both the House of Representatives and the Senate, giving him almost free reign. 

"but he did manage some of the wall' - no he didn't. Any addition to the existing wall was already proposed and approved. All he has done is oversea 79 miles of replacement or reinforcemnet.

'a lot of people got jobs' - thankfully he had inherited a booming economy thanks to Obama and the Dems. 

'blacks did better' - how? Where they getting shot less? Discriminated against less? Promoted more?They did enjoy some of the lowest unemployment figures under Trump but this was again a trend starting from the Obama days https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52907646 

'he cancelled the revolting Pacific scheme' - I assume you are talking about the TPP which had pros and many cons. Most agree he cancelled it purely because it's been his goal to roll back all of the Obama ere's legislation and everyone agrees his withdrawal has directly benefitted China.

'stuck it to Iran' - he certainly did. I mean they are so much more compliant and friendly these days aren't they. If anything he's added to Middle East tensions with his fawning over Israel and the naming of Jersulam as Israel's capital.  

'stuck it to China' - by starting a hugely costly trade war that has hurt American farmers more than anyone else.

'moved to reduce troop numbers overseas' - looks like he's still 'moving' as he certainly hasn't actually done anything https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/2019-12-03/trump-didnt-shrink-us-military-commitments-abroad-he-expanded-them 

'didn't invade other countries/didn't start a war' - yes, well done. As a Republican this must have been terribly tempting.

 

I tell you what he has done though:- he's given himself and his fellow rich buddies a huge tax decrease, he's rolled back environmental and worker protection, he's added trillions to the deficit (even before C19), he's cosied up to dictators and despots throughout the world whilst attacking his own intelligence agencies, he's had a higher staff turnover than Walmat at Xmas, 6 of his 'associates' are now convicted felons, he has gutted consumer protection regulations, he is a climate change denier and pulled out of the Paris Accord; he's defunded much of the food and drug agencies leaving them with fewer resources to deal with contaminated food outbreaks, and of course got rid of the pandemic control unit and has constantly tried to defund and control the CDC. He's also promoted hateful rhetoric that has further divided the US whilst simultaneously promoted more religion in government and oversean a pandemic which he has ignored, denied, minimised and ignored in equal measure. And he still hasn't released his tax returns.

 

But yeah Biden. He's worse.  

[earlinclaifornia]

On 7/25/2020 at 2:13 AM, dundee48 said:

Another wait and see prediction from our resident crystal ball expert.

It is really not rocket science. One and done but history will rape this guy!

[Tie Dye Samurai]

11 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Stop making things up. It's not required that wannabe presidents have to release tax details, and hasn't happened that long either.

Although you are correct that Trump is not required to release his taxes I know that you know that since 1974 (more than 45 years) every president but Gerald Ford has made a voluntary release of the tax returns they filed. (Ford did not release complete returns, but did a 10 year summary of gross income, taxable income, major deductions, taxes paid etc.) "Actual" presidents (Carter, Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton, W and Obama) have all released their taxes...until guess who...even Mike Pence has released his taxes 10 times...

 

When somebody that screamed so loud and so long for somebody's birth certificate...perhaps they should stop cringing in the shadows and wasting SCOTUS time, man up and stop being a hypocrite. (Especially when that somebody is NOTORIOUS for craving adulation, credit and validation for everything that has to do with money). Why keep clinging to the fact that legally Trump is not obligated to do what every other decent and credible candidate seems to be able to do and why not ask yourself why you think he does not release his taxes when he said he would many times? The State of New York is not going to stop asking that question by the way...

 

You are a self described independent. Why do ***you*** think he does not just release the documents and take that issue off the table? 

Edited July 26, 2020 by Tie Dye Samurai