Obesity increases risks of death from COVID-19 - Public Health England

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Obesity increases risks of death from COVID-19 - Public Health England

 

FILE PHOTO: Lights flash blue on top of an ambulance at the Hollymoor Ambulance Hub of the West Midlands Ambulance Service, operated by the West Midlands Ambulance Service NHS Foundation Trust, in Birmingham, Britain June 5, 2020. Simon Dawson/Pool via REUTERS

 

LONDON (Reuters) - People who are obese or overweight are at increased risk of death or severe illness from COVID-19, a report by Public Health England (PHE) said on Saturday as the government prepares to introduce measures to confront the problem.

 

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has pledged to tackle obesity and has himself lost weight since he was admitted to intensive care with COVID-19.

 

PHE said data showed that for people with a Body Mass Index (BMI) of 30-35, risk of death from COVID-19 increased by 40%, and it increased by 90% for those with a BMI over 40 compared to those of a healthy weight.

 

People with a BMI of over 30 are classed as obese under the system. PHE said that almost 63% of adults in England are overweight or obese.

 

“The current evidence is clear that being overweight or obese puts you at greater risk of serious illness or death from COVID-19, as well as from many other life-threatening diseases,” said Alison Tedstone, chief nutritionist at PHE.

 

On Friday, Johnson said people should lose weight, with reports that government restrictions on advertising unhealthy foods could come next week.

 

“I’m not normally a believer in nannying, bossing politics but the reality is that obesity is one of the comorbidity factors,” Johnson said.

 

Susan Jebb, Professor of Diet and Population Health at the University of Oxford, said she would be pleased to see Johnson acknowledge the extent of the public health crisis Britain faces when it comes to tackling obesity.

 

“That’s been brought to the fore by COVID, but actually it’s something that we’ve kind of known all along, but it’s just never got to the top of government’s to-do list,” Jebb, who reviewed the PHE report, told reporters.

 

Reporting by Alistair Smout; editing by Stephen Addison

 

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[robblok]

Poor obese people, no wonder that its killing so many in the USA and a lot less in Thailand.

 

I want to bet people wont try to lose weight. I mean people know that smoking kills but they keep doing it too. 

[bearpolar]

33 minutes ago, robblok said:

Poor obese people, no wonder that its killing so many in the USA and a lot less in Thailand.

 

I want to bet people wont try to lose weight. I mean people know that smoking kills but they keep doing it too. 

Easier to be a C-word and force healthy people to wear stupid masks, wear stupid gloves and wash their hands with <deleted>ty purell that kills their healthy bacteria biome than to actually not be a narcissist that takes care of himself.

 

 

[robblok]

1 minute ago, bearpolar said:

Easier to be a C-word and force healthy people to wear stupid masks, wear stupid gloves and wash their hands with <deleted>ty purell that kills their healthy bacteria biome than to actually not be a narcissist that takes care of himself.

 

 

Strange reply, IMHO both are good masks have been proven to help (to protect others not for one selves). Same goes for disinfecting hands. I guess there will always be anti maskers they should just join the covid parties in the US. They are really educational. 

 

Not being overweight does not guarantee not dying a family friend was healthy and sporty and did not make it. Best to do both masks and something about the weight. But it still is no guarantee.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

Poor obese people, no wonder that its killing so many in the USA and a lot less in Thailand.

 

I want to bet people wont try to lose weight. I mean people know that smoking kills but they keep doing it too. 

The days when the UK could righteously point the accusative finger at obesity in the US are long gone, and if you open your eyes you’ll see Thailand isn’t far behind.

[robblok]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The days when the UK could righteously point the accusative finger at obesity in the US are long gone, and if you open your eyes you’ll see Thailand isn’t far behind.

Its not that bad in Thailand but yes you see some fat guys and girls walking (if you can call it that) around. 

 

In my country we got enough obese too. I was fat before, lost 25kg. It wont happen to me again. But it takes effort. Not many are willing to give up some stuff so they could lose weight. 

[twocatsmac]

May 11th I posted this,

 

Anyone over weight needs to start a keto,south beach type diet immediately. 

Medics have been rolling patients onto their stomachs as a last gasp tactic to keep ventilated virus victims alive.

That beer gut is gonna kill you quicker than you think.

 

It was old news then as it is now. 

Edited July 26, 2020 by twocatsmac

[innosiem]

so when are we closing all fast food joints and banning sugar and alcohol ?
for the greater good of everyone 
governments also need to introduce mandatory daily exercise
Only "selfish" people would consider these not to be the next logical steps
????‍♂️

maybe they could make it a requirement to travel
so you cannot board a plane unless you can do
100 push-ups at check-in
100 sits-ups at the boarding gate before you can board
and then also 500 star jumps when you arrive at your destination before you can enter????

Edited July 26, 2020 by innosiem

[robblok]

Just now, innosiem said:

so when are we closing all fast food joints and banning sugar and alcohol ?
for the greater good of everyone 
governments also need to introduce mandatory daily exercise
Only "selfish" people would consider these not to be the next logical steps
????‍♂️

Why they only risk themselves, unlike the free ride anti vaxers. 

[innosiem]

4 minutes ago, robblok said:

Why they only risk themselves, unlike the free ride anti vaxers. 

i am not anti vax..........????‍♂️
i am anti stupid and pro choice????

and it is not only themselves they risk
as they take up space in hospitals and put pressure on the medical system
which would not be the case if they took care of their bodies
or have you forgotten the "flatten the curve" narrative
these obese people are the reason we had lock downs as they are the ones that would fill the hospitals

Edited July 26, 2020 by innosiem

[twocatsmac]

11 minutes ago, innosiem said:

so when are we closing all fast food joints and banning sugar and alcohol ?
for the greater good of everyone 
governments also need to introduce mandatory daily exercise
Only "selfish" people would consider these not to be the next logical steps
????‍♂️

maybe they could make it a requirement to travel
so you cannot board a plane unless you can do
100 push-ups at check-in
100 sits-ups at the boarding gate before you can board
and 500 star jumps when you arrive at your destination????

Agreed, healthy weight issues need to be taught at school. 

[robblok]

7 minutes ago, innosiem said:

i am not anti vax..........????‍♂️
i am anti stupid and pro choice????

and it is not only themselves they risk
as they take up space in hospitals and put pressure on the medical system
which would not be the case if they took care of their bodies
or have you forgotten the "flatten the curve" narrative
these obese people are the reason we had lock downs as they are the ones that would fill the hospitals

Valid point about them filling up the hospitals, can't be denied. 

 

Then one could say in triage they are getting treatment last. Problem solved, then they don't risk others. Unlike the pro choice anti vaxers who actively put others at risk. 

 

Nice try though your getting better. 

[rabas]

20 minutes ago, twocatsmac said:

May 11th I posted this,

 

Anyone over weight needs to start a keto,south beach type diet immediately. 

Medics have been rolling patients onto their stomachs as a last gasp tactic to keep ventilated virus victims alive.

That beer gut is gonna kill you quicker than you think.

 

It was old news then as it is now. 

Here a beer gut helps. In a prone position, a big gut elevates the lower lungs and increases drainage to the front, which is why they flip them over into a prone position.   Usually they need to use pillows in place of a beer gut.

 

OTOH, begin overweight probably got them into the hospital to begin with.

 

Edited July 26, 2020 by rabas

[twocatsmac]

3 minutes ago, rabas said:

Here a beer gut helps. In a prone position, a big gut elevates the lower lungs and increases drainage to the front, which is why they flip them over into a prone position.   Usually they need to use pillows in place of a beer gut.

 

OTOH, begin overweight probably got them into the hospital to begin with.

 

This was the same kind of reaction my original post received ????

If people need to justify being a pompui buffoon, up to them.

I prefer to take my chances through life without the lard around my waist.

[bkk6060]

27 minutes ago, innosiem said:

so when are we closing all fast food joints and banning sugar and alcohol ?

They should and add ciggies.

All killing millions more then Covid ever will.

[bkk6060]

3 minutes ago, twocatsmac said:

This was the same kind of reaction my original post received ????

If people need to justify being a pompui buffoon, up to them.

I prefer to take my chances through life without the lard around my waist.

Probably same people who think smoking is good it kills the virus.

[Bender Rodriguez]

duh, been saying that for months now...

 

vitamin D is stored in FAT tissue, the fatter you are, the less AVAILABLE in the blood(stream)

[innosiem]

22 minutes ago, robblok said:

Valid point about them filling up the hospitals, can't be denied. 

 

Then one could say in triage they are getting treatment last. Problem solved, then they don't risk others. Unlike the pro choice anti vaxers who actively put others at risk. 

 

Nice try though your getting better. 

nice mental gymnastics you got there????
if hospitals are full hospitals are full
"sorry you cannot be treated here we are already full of obese people using up all our resources"
there would not be discriminatory preferential treatment
and YOUR selfishness is clear,
as you think your solution is fine as it would put you in front of obese people

and again, i am not anti vax, stop mis-labeling myself and others
quite happy for them to be produced for people like yourself to take

[Bender Rodriguez]

1 hour ago, bearpolar said:

Easier to be a C-word and force healthy people to wear stupid masks, wear stupid gloves and wash their hands with <deleted>ty purell that kills their healthy bacteria biome than to actually not be a narcissist that takes care of himself.

 

 

exactly, all that anti bacterial gel is killing 99 percent of everything, also the good bacteria protecting your skin !!! but again, most people cannot understand that... kill kill kill

 

humans are trillions of bacteria living together, unless you create an unbalance with anti-biotics, etc...

[innosiem]

14 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

They should and add ciggies.

All killing millions more then Covid ever will.

while i agree
the topic is about obese people
hence i did not include tobacco unless this has now also been linked to obesity

[steelepulse]

This has been shown in the data for months now.  Why governments didn't present these facts along with other facts about who would suffer the worst is beyond comprehension.  Instead we get deaths and cases charts being in the background of every news segment to keep the fear going.

[Rimmer]

A conspiracy troll post and a reply has been removed

[robblok]

15 minutes ago, innosiem said:

nice mental gymnastics you got there????
if hospitals are full hospitals are full
"sorry you cannot be treated here we are already full of obese people using up all our resources"
there would not be discriminatory preferential treatment
and YOUR selfishness is clear,
as you think your solution is fine as it would put you in front of obese people

and again, i am not anti vax, stop mis-labeling myself and others
quite happy for them to be produced for people like yourself to take

I put the label on you and it sticks. You were the one worried about obese taking up resources and so on. Not me could not care about it just gave you a possible solution that YOU wanted. 

 

Get over it your a selfish anti vax pro choice. Your kind makes it harder to curb the spread of the virus once there is a vaccin this has been explained to you many times already.

 

But you do know that triage is a normal thing in hospitals when they flood ? Maybe you should study some thing a bit more and get off all those tinfoil hat websites and go for some real science. 

[innosiem]

1 minute ago, robblok said:

I put the label on you and it sticks. You were the one worried about obese taking up resources and so on. Not me could not care about it just gave you a possible solution that YOU wanted. 

 

Get over it your a selfish anti vax pro choice. Your kind makes it harder to curb the spread of the virus once there is a vaccin this has been explained to you many times already.

 

But you do know that triage is a normal thing in hospitals when they flood ? Maybe you should study some thing a bit more and get off all those tinfoil hat websites and go for some real science. 

again your mental gymnastics are astonishing 
i have never been anti-vax
i have never needed to voice a concern until talk of mandatory rushed to market vax became an issue recently
i am quite happy for them to be produced and for people like yourself to use them
that is not "anti-vax"
if you cannot use correct terminology,

how do you ever expect people to understand your point, if or when you will ever have one ?

i was never worried about obese people taking up hospital beds
i simply made a point based on logic according to current measures and current narratives being pushed by people like yourself
and you conveniently forget, the flood would be anything but normal if the narrative is correct

then you end with the ad-homiens after not making a single point????‍♂️

and you clearly have forgot about Sweden, who did not have lock downs or other draconian measures to "flatten the curve"????‍♂️


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

[robblok]

32 minutes ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

duh, been saying that for months now...

 

vitamin D is stored in FAT tissue, the fatter you are, the less AVAILABLE in the blood(stream)

maybe you should educate yourself more. 

 

Its true that its stored in fat tissue but the body can mobilize it when its needed. 

 

https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/vitamin-d-and-your-health-breaking-old-rules-raising-new-hopes#:~:text=Like the other fat-soluble,build up to toxic levels.

[rumak]

3 hours ago, rooster59 said:

 

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has pledged to tackle obesity

fat chance of that happening ....

[BKKBike09]

4 hours ago, rooster59 said:

PHE said data showed that for people with a Body Mass Index (BMI) of 30-35, risk of death from COVID-19 increased by 40%, and it increased by 90% for those with a BMI over 40 compared to those of a healthy weight.

 

People with a BMI of over 30 are classed as obese under the system. PHE said that almost 63% of adults in England are overweight or obese.

 

“The current evidence is clear that being overweight or obese puts you at greater risk of serious illness or death from COVID-19, as well as from many other life-threatening diseases,” said Alison Tedstone, chief nutritionist at PHE.

More meaningless scaremongering. "being overweight or obese puts you at greater risk of serious illness or death from COVID-19, as well as from many other life-threatening diseases" - correct, but an increased risk of 40% or 90% or whatever is meaningless without a baseline data point. If your risk of dying of Covid or whatever disease is say 1 in a 1,000, a '40%' increase is nothing.

[TooBigToFit]

First, Robblok, you have posted for years on here about your health. How about posting a pic of your abs.

 

You were 'fit' years ago. By now you should be running 100 mile non-stop 36-hour races if you're really healthy. It's as easy for every fit person to work harder to run a marathon as it is a fat person to lose weight. So why do so few settle for less than marathon-level health? Hell, I'd say it's as easy for a fit person to rise to near Olympic level in their weight-lifting for their weight class as it is for a fat person to lose weight. How could it ever be any harder for you to go further than it is for a fat person? It's all the same laws of science plus simple willpower. Why have so many given up with a pseudo-'fit' level in improving your health when you can have maximum fitness? Anyways, Let's see those ab shots  from the know-it-all fit folks on here. You can post your health blog links or youtube health advice channel links too. 

 

Fat people fight on! You know how hard it is dealing with your situation. Don't let clueless people who are full of themselves put you down.  You are human and deserve dignity!

 

 

[Isaan sailor]

Not easy to stay trim and fit—especially in retirement.  Your heart rate slows with age.  So you either have to eat less—or exercise more to compensate.  It helps to have a much younger mate, I must admit...

Edited July 26, 2020 by Isaan sailor

[blazes]

3 hours ago, innosiem said:

so when are we closing all fast food joints and banning sugar and alcohol ?
for the greater good of everyone 
governments also need to introduce mandatory daily exercise
Only "selfish" people would consider these not to be the next logical steps
????‍♂️

maybe they could make it a requirement to travel
so you cannot board a plane unless you can do
100 push-ups at check-in
100 sits-ups at the boarding gate before you can board
and then also 500 star jumps when you arrive at your destination before you can enter????

I am giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming that you had your tongue in cheek when you wrote that....BUT

your list reminds me of the time I spent in East Germany.  Except that even the Stasi did not go as far as you seem prepared to go.....

Edited July 26, 2020 by blazes