Two Thai women in hospital after COVID virus DNA found in their system

[Jonathan Fairfield]

Two Thai women in hospital after COVID virus DNA found in their system

 

 

Two Thai women have been hospitalized for observation after traces of COVID-19 were found in their system, despite the fact that they were cleared of infection during their 14-days in state quarantine, prior to going home.

 

Disease Control Department chief Dr. Suwanchai Wattanayingcharoenchai assured, however, that these cases are not regarded as the start of a second wave infections, because both used to be in state quarantine.

 

One returned to Thailand from the UAE on June 2nd and entered state quarantine. The first test, on June 5th, produced an ambiguous result with minimal virus DNA being detected. The second test cleared her of any infection.

 

On August 17th, however, she was tested again as she was about to go abroad and minimal traces of COVID-19 DNA were found. She was hospitalized for observation.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/two-thai-women-in-hospital-after-covid-virus-dna-found-in-their-system/

 

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[RotBenz8888]

1 hour ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

She was hospitalized for observation.

And if she tests negative, she can't be set free, maybe she'll be positive again next month? It's going to be a long long hospital stay... 

[rupert the bear]

seems like the testings faulty,if shes not sick she cant be put in prison she has rights.this is absurd,orwellian

[Brunolem]

2 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

She was hospitalized for observation.

What is there to observe?

 

Are they going to test her every hour?

 

She'd better be back to quarantine for an extra week or so, rather than occupying a room in a hospital which should be reserved for really sick people.

[Krabi King]

Oh, the panic! And especially the media spreading it...

The PCR test that is being used to test for COVID is extremely sensitive. It will detect the tiniest amount of RNA. It absolutely can not indicate if a person is infected or infectious. There is no idictation of viral load or whether the virus is still active. 

An anti body test might be the right thing to do here.

[Medicine Man]

OK, place an infected person in a hospital rather than an isolation facility. What could possibly go wrong...

[hioctane]

11 minutes ago, Medicine Man said:

OK, place an infected person in a hospital rather than an isolation facility. What could possibly go wrong...

All hospitals have isolated covid wards so you don’t mix patients without covid.

[hioctane]

2 hours ago, Brunolem said:

What is there to observe?

 

Are they going to test her every hour?

 

She'd better be back to quarantine for an extra week or so, rather than occupying a room in a hospital which should be reserved for really sick people.

Obviously hospitals don’t operate at 100% capacity! 

[uhuh]

1 hour ago, Krabi King said:

Oh, the panic! And especially the media spreading it...

The PCR test that is being used to test for COVID is extremely sensitive. It will detect the tiniest amount of RNA. It absolutely can not indicate if a person is infected or infectious. There is no idictation of viral load or whether the virus is still active. 

An anti body test might be the right thing to do here.

But if you read it carefully,  they didn't find RNA. They found the DNA of the virus (the virus is a RNA virus). This is really a scientific breakthrough, an unheard-of discovery,  and if confirmed it will revolutionize the science of genetics and virology.

:p)

[johnarth]

just how far is this going to go? it has been stated many times that this virus is a flu which like all flues will return next year what then? everybody go to jail or will the news media let it go by then?

[geriatrickid]

3 hours ago, rupert the bear said:

seems like the testings faulty,if shes not sick she cant be put in prison she has rights.this is absurd,orwellian

Although it is possible an improper test was performed, it is also possible that the test was accurate.  People who are self isolating are usually infected and have  mild or moderate  symptoms.  These people can be infectious for up to 30 days.  However,  more than 88% of the infected are not infectious after 10 days. At 15 days, it is a little more than 95%.  14 days is a balance between safety and practicality as  the majority of people will not be infectious.

The people most likely to be infectious at 10 days+ are those with a severe case and are typically in the hospital. 

 

Please keep in mind that even if  the virus is detected after 10-14 days, it does not mean a person is infectious. As people recover, they shed dead virus or impaired virus such that it is not a threat to healthy people.

 

Also some people can be  infected while in "isolation", because they are not necessarily self isolating.

[geriatrickid]

Just now, johnarth said:

just how far is this going to go? it has been stated many times that this virus is a flu which like all flues will return next year what then? everybody go to jail or will the news media let it go by then?

The only people claiming this is a flu are people who are clueless. It is not related to an influenza virus, nor does it share the characteristics. There isn't a 'return" issue yet, because SARS COV-2 is still in circulation and has not gone away. As long as we have a reservoir of asymptomatic  carriers, the population is at risk.

[geriatrickid]

45 minutes ago, Medicine Man said:

OK, place an infected person in a hospital rather than an isolation facility. What could possibly go wrong...

They may have isolation rooms set up for these people.

[uhuh]

12 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

 These people can be infectious for up to 30 days. 

Where did you get that from? 

[Bender Rodriguez]

who pays this FORCED observation in case of a farang ?  

[Krikkiz]

They should take HIV in same way!

 

Edited August 20, 2020 by Krikkiz

[Canuck1966]

Who cares, 0.0000000000000000000000001% of the world's  population has died from Chinese flu. 

It's just the selfish old junta who want total power

[Canuck1966]

This is the problem with allowing Thailand to become a kakistocracy 

[Clarkey611]

1 hour ago, uhuh said:

But if you read it carefully,  they didn't find RNA. They found the DNA of the virus (the virus is a RNA virus). This is really a scientific breakthrough, an unheard-of discovery,  and if confirmed it will revolutionize the science of genetics and virology.

:p)

Detection of the virus

Reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction

Polymerase chain reaction (PCR) is a process that amplifies (replicates) a small, well-defined segment of DNA many hundreds of thousands of times, creating enough of it for analysis. Test samples are treated with certain chemicals^[14][15] that allow DNA to be extracted. Reverse transcription converts RNA into DNA.

Reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR) first uses reverse transcription to obtain DNA, followed by PCR to amplify that DNA, creating enough to be analyzed.^[15] RT-PCR can thereby detect SARS-CoV-2, which contains only RNA. The RT-PCR process generally requires a few hours.^[16]

[LiveKiss]

1 hour ago, geriatrickid said:

Although it is possible an improper test was performed, it is also possible that the test was accurate. 

Give it a rest geriatrickid. The PCR test does not detect any disease, it just detects a genetic sequence that apparently many have in them and are wrongly called “asymptomatic carriers/spreaders”, or healthy people that spread disease!

I am happy that more and more people can see through all this, and people like geriatrickid are left trying to explain the impossible.

Edited August 20, 2020 by LiveKiss

[richard_smith237]

38 minutes ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

who pays this FORCED observation in case of a farang ?  

The Covid-19 Medical cover of at least US$100,000 stipulated for all non-Thai returnees to Thailand.

 

 

 

[Krikkiz]

They should take HIV in same way!

[DouglasTsui]

@geriatrickid, u seem to have quite a feel for this virus. What are your credentials like? 

[RocketDog]

3 hours ago, hioctane said:

All hospitals have isolated covid wards so you don’t mix patients without covid.

Surely there is a cost difference all other things being equal. 

Since she's Thai the quarantine is totally paid by the gov. Maybe the hospital too, but wasting nursing/doctor time is an issue. 

[Ireland32]

Incubation is longer than 14 days for Christ sake 

[DavisH]

1 minute ago, Ireland32 said:

Incubation is longer than 14 days for Christ sake 

Only for a few people. 14 days or less is the norm. A few infected individuals may be released to go home due to this. I read one returnign Thai tested positive on day 13 of quarantine. 

[The Barmbeker]

Nope!

Fake news!

Thailand is absolutely and positively free of COVID for over 2 months!

The immaculate government hath telled us so!

[tomauasia]

This is a proporganda article produced by team elite to find new reasons to finish there movie on how to destroy a economy. Starring ex and current generals. Directed by who ever had the best watch.

[Grumpy John]

2 hours ago, Canuck1966 said:

This is the problem with allowing Thailand to become a kakistocracy 

Are you sure those in power are not just plain old everyday morons?   ????

[2 is 1]

They press panic button anyway here in Loei! That woman had 2 kids secondary 2 and 6. Let's see what happen , hope not hole province go lock down lol. Even not be surpriced if that happen! 

Edited August 20, 2020 by 2 is 1