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Charlie Hebdo re-runs Prophet Mohammad cartoons to mark attack trial


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3 hours ago, torturedsole said:

Good news. Nothing wrong with satire and if not embraced then what can we do?  We won't be bullied and fair play to the French for their resilience.  

And you really belivethat is still a "satire"? have you learned nothing of have going on with the world in the last 20-30 years vis-a-vis the world Vs. Islam/Muslims?...

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Just now, Oxx said:

 

Given mass economic immigration from the Muslim world and the high fertility of Muslim women, it's not inconceivable that the superstition and ignorance of Islam will have the final word and freedom of speech will be lost, not only in France, but across much of Western Europe.  Even in a democracy, their tendency to vote according to the diktats of the local mosque means that their influence can far outweigh their statistical numbers.

- Macron february 2020 ; ""A problem arises when, in the name of religion, some want to separate themselves from the Republic and therefore not respect its laws,” 

 "political islam" has "no place" in France

https://www.france24.com/en/20200219-macron-unveils-curbs-on-foreign-imams-in-france-in-bid-to-combat-separatism

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37 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

the prophet who once had two girls put to death for singing a satirical song about him

Not true.  Only one girl was put to death.  The other ran away, and was ultimately pardoned by the oh-so-compassionate Mohammed.

 

And anyway, what is one girl compared with the hundreds upon hundreds he murdered, such as the 300+ Jews of the Banu Qurayza tribe because they refused to accept him as a prophet?

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1 hour ago, Oxx said:

 

Given mass economic immigration from the Muslim world and the high fertility of Muslim women, it's not inconceivable that the superstition and ignorance of Islam will have the final word and freedom of speech will be lost, not only in France, but across much of Western Europe.  Even in a democracy, their tendency to vote according to the diktats of the local mosque means that their influence can far outweigh their statistical numbers.

This is certainly true of Pakistan where the Mullahs have never got more than 15% of the vote. But they have street power and the politicians have long ago put up the white flag.

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57 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

The zealots ordering death are only following the example of the prophet who once had two girls put to death for singing a satirical song about him. He had a thin skin, had no sense of humor and was violent, how can you expect his followers who think he was the perfect man to be different?

The Kouachi brothers told just after the killing that they belong to a group of Anwar Al Awlaki, part of Yemeni Al Quaida franchise.

 

This Anwar Al Awlaki died in 2011 in Yemen, while the Kouachi brothers did the killings 4 yours later in 2015. 

 

Witnesses inside the Charlie Hebdo building surviving the attack are talking about 3 persons : 2 persons were armed, the third one wasn’t armed and didn’t join the 2 others with the car.

 

The 3rd person didn’t join the Kouachi brothers in their escape and unmasked hold up in a shop with a bazooka north of Paris. Not really Islamic fashion to steal money with a bazooka.

 

Later on the day they went to eat a burger in a Quick fastfood restaurant close to the Belgian border. Bacon and burgers are grilled on the same non-hallal plate.

After the burger meal they went back closer to Paris to hide in a random factory. They didn’t use the bazooka against the police force of +/- 200 men.

 

Your 2+1 zealots didn’t really behave according to traditional Islam.

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All of the mainsteam media including Charlie Hebdo still support mass migration of Muslims and others into the West. Charlie Hebdo isn't on our side here, what they do just makes sure migrants hate us and see all white people as 'racist' when they get here, leading to more violence and unrest, which the elites are perfectly happy about.

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1 hour ago, Orton Rd said:

'I was made victorious with terror'- the Prophet Mohammad

The Hadith, collected by Bukhari (4.52.220)

Etymology of the word “terror” has changed since the origin of religious wars in that time and region. 

Moreover, you refer to a hadith that has been composed and written down +/- 200 years after the life of the Prophet.

 

The killings of Charlie Hebdo case were even mentioned and applauded in a fake religious context on a website. The website mentioned “The Almighty” Prophet which is impossible and against basics of traditional Islam.

 

I’m not a Muslim and even me, I know that Muslims believe in Allah the almighty god and Muhammad is their Prophet. Even Jesus Christ and Abraham are Prophets in Islam.

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Typical apologist response- the words meant a different thing then and written down long after- so was the Quran and the rest of the Hadiths, you cannot pick and choose what to accept as genuine and what not to accept based on when it was written down. There is no proof the the main Hadith and most respected is any less reliable than any other.

Leaving scripture aside Mohammad clearly did engage in warfare with the Meccans, agreed to a peace treaty then deviously broke it to attack Mecca again. He had Jews executed after promising them amnesty, robbed caravans and had people killed on a whim, sounds like terror to me. BTW Voltaire never said that quote, a biographer did long after he was dead

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