Trump visits Kenosha, not to urge racial healing but to back police

[CorpusChristie]

17 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

No not that he is 17 or 18, even if it is very much differens according to the law. However, what´s important is that he have a big rifle with him in public.

But, I didn´t suppose you would understand what was important. It´s also important that he shot people with a weapon he is not allowed to wear in public.

 

You know, if somebody is carrying a weapon like that with them, other people might think that he wants to kill other. Never crossed your mind, I guess.

 

About silly....hmmm Yes, You are the owner of the Dummkopf.

I am finding it quite difficult to understand your posts , try not writing the way you talk 

Edited September 2, 2020 by CorpusChristie

[Matzzon]

7 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

I am fining it quite difficult to understand your posts , try not writing the way you talk 

Nothing wrong with my writing. What stands clear is that you have much deeper problems understanding, and it seems to regard a wide variety of things.

Anyway, I must give it to you. It was a really nice try to look away from the subject. You almost got me.

Cheers! Have a nice day.. ???? (Kinda shot yourself in the foot there, so to say) ????

Edited September 2, 2020 by Matzzon

[earlinclaifornia]

1 hour ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

No...just raise their taxes and send them to war.

 You must mean the Iraq war. Like bush did so his cronies all stole America taxpayer funds making us financially ruined?

[CorpusChristie]

1 minute ago, Matzzon said:

Nothing wrong with my writing. What stands clear is that you have much deeper problems understanding, and it seems to regard a wide variety of things.

Anyway, I must give it to you. It was a really nice try to look away from the subject. You almost got me.

Cheers! Have a nice day.. ???? (Kinda shot yourself in the foot there, so to say) ????

There really is , sure I could read it three times and then get an understanding, but I dont have the time to study your posts .

  Cannot work out what you are trying to say here 

"About silly....hmmm Yes, You are the owner of the Dummkopf."

[Pattaya Spotter]

2 hours ago, simple1 said:

Nope, expressing my thoughts. Childish attempt at insult, plus, usual conspiracy stuff from the trump world.

 

Charges so far, have to wait see if downgraded or not

 

Prosecutors have formally charged 17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse with first-degree intentional homicide, first degree reckless homicide, attempted first-degree intentional homicide and two counts of first-degree reckless endangerment 

 

Prosecutors often "over-charge" in the beginning of a case so they have something to plea-bargain down to at a later stage (what the actual charge should have been in the first place.

[earlinclaifornia]

1 hour ago, anterian said:

Reuters is so blatantly biased against Trump that I cannot understand why TV uses them as a news feed. Or are they equally biased. As a Brit I notice that American readers of TV seem evenly divided on this issue but not the management.

 

Every news outlet, except Fox has to report news and trump is a daily disaster. Most of us don't believe we are biased about trump just his supporters 

[Pattaya Spotter]

6 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

 You must mean the Iraq war. Like bush did so his cronies all stole America taxpayer funds making us financially ruined?

No...I mean the Iraq and Afghan wars that were continued, and later expanded, under President Obama.

Edited September 2, 2020 by Pattaya Spotter

[earlinclaifornia]

6 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

No...I mean the Iraq and Afghan wars that were continued, and later expanded, under President Obama.

Figures you leave out who started it Bush, (read my lips) and the fact that trump has added troops and not reduced like his promised.

Edited September 2, 2020 by earlinclaifornia

[Pattaya Spotter]

1 hour ago, polpott said:

Yours never had any. Consistently tried to wind up N.Korea and China.

Enforcing trade agreements and protecting freedom of navigation on the seas is "stirring up" wars...if you say so. As for the corpulent Kim...that's one war that the president shied away from.

[Pattaya Spotter]

13 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Every news outlet, except Fox has to report news and trump is a daily disaster. Most of us don't believe we are biased about trump just his supporters 

It appears you might be inhaling too much of those forest fire smoke fumes

[simple1]

2 hours ago, SymS said:

The way it works is the governor asks for the national guards as needed, and Trump sends them out.
Trump has begged governors to request the national guards for months in places like Portland, but many governors refuse, and let the riots continue.

A lot of the racial tensions are due to the media that hypes things out, often distorts the truth, and milks as much money as possible from the division.

Incorrect. The governor ordered the national guard to deploy under his authority. trump was not involved, but claimed the credit - lying as usual

Edited September 2, 2020 by simple1

[Logosone]

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

Good, you didn't ask the same question but this time you've asked the right question, polpott.  The 'fact' in the video, which was never directly presented as a 'fact' but only alluded to in the conclusion is that guns kill people.  That is not'fact' but fiction.  People kill people.  And when people decide to kill other people they will use whatever means are available, even common objects, and whatever means are best suited as well.  The UK is a gun free society (unless you're a criminal of course) and they have an epidemic of knifings.

 

Everyone, gun lovers and anti-gun activists alike, abhor slayings.  We're united on that.  But what's the real solution?  In order to answer the question you have to first determine what the real problem is, wouldn't you?  The true problem can be framed by the question: why does someone desire to kill?  If you don't address the root cause of a problem then any solution that fails to address it is guaranteed to fail.  You can experience limited success with a band-aid (wrong) solution but ultimately it can only be temporary.

 

Seeking answers to the true problem, the desire of someone to kill another, would take you down roads that, I'm afraid, society isn't quite ready to take.

Well said, people kill people, guns don't kill people.

 

What is the real solution to the mass destruction in the US? Simple. Create a specific offense prohibiting anarchist violence, turning peaceful protests into violent ones, punishable with 15 years prison time. Then enforce it ruthlessly. The problem is the weak Democrat cities do not want to enforce it. Because they support the anarchists.

 

The root cause of the problem is violent, underhand anarchists who are ready to cause mass destruction. 

 

They have to be dealt with. If America wants a kind of lasting peace and end to destruction.

Edited September 2, 2020 by Logosone

[Sujo]

17 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Incorrect. The governor ordered the national guard to deploy under his authority. trump was not involved, but claimed the credit - lying as usual

That is true, he arranged with other governors for the national guard.

Was funny trump was saying he should call for the national guard a day after he actually did it.

 

Trump as usual had nothing to do with it.

[Sujo]

11 minutes ago, Logosone said:

Well said, people kill people, guns don't kill people.

 

What is the real solution to the mass destruction in the US? Simple. Create a specific offense prohibiting anarchist violence, turning peaceful protests into violent ones, punishable with 15 years prison time. Then enforce it ruthlessly. The problem is the weak Democrat cities do not want to enforce it. Because they support the anarchists.

 

The root cause of the problem is violent, underhand anarchists who are ready to cause mass destruction. 

 

They have to be dealt with. If America wants a kind of lasting peace and end to destruction.

And its all happening under trump. Maga.

 

The root cause of the violence is not the protests, its the killing of blacks by police. Thats what started it.

Edited September 2, 2020 by Sujo

[Lacessit]

6 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

Freedom is a hard concept for subjects to understand but it still exists in some places. 
 

Like America. 

 

[Enoon]

1 hour ago, Sujo said:

And its all happening under trump. Maga.

 

The root cause of the violence is not the protests, its the killing of blacks by police. Thats what started it.

 

It "started" with the failure to fully address the evils of race oppression/white supremacy, in the USA, after the Civil War.

 

The evil doers were pretty much left alone to maintain/propagate their evil ideology, if not actually practice it to the extremes to which it was previously practised.

 

They are now emboldened by their Alt/Anti-Messiah.

 

Quite possibly "His terrible swift sword" is about to be unsheathed again.

 

If it is, this time total evil must be totally eradicated.

 

 

 

 

Edited September 2, 2020 by Enoon

[Bundooman]

13 hours ago, MaxYakov said:

He's doing what he should be doing as the chief Federal law enforcement officer, supporting the rule of law, IMHO.

 

Jacob Blake was a victim of his own bad decisions, much like the people who are protesting his shooting during Blake's apparently legitimate arrest. Blake is lucky to have survived his violent resistance to arrest. Many don't, IMHO.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm sure you would feel exactly the same if a policeman shot your father, or your brother or your son, seven times in the back at close quarters!

[onthedarkside]

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[Matzzon]

2 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

There really is , sure I could read it three times and then get an understanding, but I dont have the time to study your posts .

  Cannot work out what you are trying to say here 

"About silly....hmmm Yes, You are the owner of the Dummkopf."

Why don´t you Google it? Google is you friend, Mr Corpus. ????

[riclag]

1 hour ago, Sujo said:

And its all happening under trump. Maga.

 

The root cause of the violence is not the protests, its the killing of blacks by police. Thats what started it.

It is ? Its been a curse for America since before the current President! I find the root cause of the violence is negligence. 

 Negligence in many cities in my country, especially in the root areas where the incidents occurred to spark peaceful protests that turned to violent riots.

 

Common denominater  in all three cities Minneapolis,Atlanta and  Kenosha ,

Resisting arrest and not obeying law enforcement commands!

Guess what, those two negligent acts are crimes ,just by them selves!

Most people all over the world obey the law ! Why can't serial criminals obey the law,Why!!!!!!

 

 The other factor  in negligence is not supporting the police by politicians on the left to enforce the laws in their cities and states ! 

 

[simple1]

19 minutes ago, Enoon said:

 

It "started" with the failure to fully address the evils of race oppression/white supremacy, in the USA, after the Civil War.

 

The evil doers were pretty much left alone to maintain/propagate their evil ideology, if not actually practice it to the extremes to which it was previously practised.

 

They are now emboldened by their Alt/Anti-Messiah.

 

Quite possibly "His terrible swift sword" is about to be unsheathed again.

 

If it is, this time total evil must be totally eradicated.

 

 

 

 

In the trump administration you have senior members who believe in 'the Rapture' - religious weirdos in charge of the US at the highest level of government

[CorpusChristie]

3 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

Why don´t you Google it? Google is you friend, Mr Corpus. ????

German for "Fool"

That may still may fall foul of TVF rules about being civil to other posters 

 

[MaxYakov]

43 minutes ago, Bundooman said:

I'm sure you would feel exactly the same if a policeman shot your father, or your brother or your son, seven times in the back at close quarters!

My father is deceased, I don't have a brother (or sister), so it would depend upon which of my two sons. ????

[Matzzon]

41 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

German for "Fool"

That may still may fall foul of TVF rules about being civil to other posters 

 

Yep, it might! So be it. I can´t tolerate people that defend murderers and a president that also promote the same. So, why don´t you just go ahead and report it.

[RoadWarrior371]

1 hour ago, Enoon said:

 

It "started" with the failure to fully address the evils of race oppression/white supremacy, in the USA, after the Civil War.

 

The evil doers were pretty much left alone to maintain/propagate their evil ideology, if not actually practice it to the extremes to which it was previously practised.

 

They are now emboldened by their Alt/Anti-Messiah.

 

Quite possibly "His terrible swift sword" is about to be unsheathed again.

 

If it is, this time total evil must be totally eradicated.

Is now when we all chant "Jihad!"?  I am new to this woke-ness, but is sounds like "the Man" is really out to get us this time.  ????

Edited September 2, 2020 by RoadWarrior371

[Morch]

14 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

The good people of Kensosha are not fooled by carefully editted video footage, this isn't the first time a narrative has been crafted to attack conservatives, only later to spectacularly implode(Sandmann and Smollett for 2 recent examples of this exact thing). Trump's visit is a great show of strength. Potential rioters, looters, and anarchists may not have Kyle to contend with, but not to worry, Trump himself is watching. 

 

"Kenosha GOP chairwoman says '80% of people in the city support teenage gunman Kyle Rittenhouse' - and the remaining 20% are 'probably people that can't stand Trump'"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8686969/Kenosha-GOP-chair-says-80-people-support-Kyle-Rittenhouse-did.html

 

Unless mistaken Trump carried the 2016 elections there with a very slim margin, like 1% or less. Not sure how that fits with the obviously "objective" GOP chairwoman's comment.

[Morch]

12 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

Nobody said it was “normal” but it was definitely justified. 
 

That’s called an “uncomfortable truth” to some, but the truth nonetheless. 

 

Definitely, says poster. Like a couple of shots wouldn't have sufficed at this range. Should have thought a few armed policeman could settle this with a couple of shots and punch, but hey, if you say Definitely, then it must be so. One thing for sure, truth it ain't, uncomfortable or otherwise.

[Morch]

8 hours ago, polpott said:

Madness.

 

The Leonidas in me itches....

Edited September 2, 2020 by Morch

[Morch]

8 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

Freedom is a hard concept for subjects to understand but it still exists in some places. 
 

Like America. 

 

Owning such a a weapon at 17 ain't got nothing to do with "freedom". People can't even vote at this age, or buy beer in some states. As said above, Madness.

[Logosone]

3 hours ago, Sujo said:

And its all happening under trump. Maga.

 

The root cause of the violence is not the protests, its the killing of blacks by police. Thats what started it.

Of course. Because Antifa made clear when Trump was elected they will do everything to sabotage his presidency.

 

And of course Anarchists have an agenda of destroying society so we all give up technology and have to eat plants to survive.

 

The video of Floyd did spark unrest. Because of the incitement of the marxist BLM and their anarchist blackshirts who used a police killing such as which happened with many whites, in order to cause mass destruction and riots.

 

Floyd was the main ingredient. But BLM and ANTIFA were the cooks.

Edited September 2, 2020 by Logosone