16 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Yet his supporters still go through amazing contortions to try and support him; bizarre.

You really have to wonder  about the character of these people.  

1 minute ago, Damual Travesty said:

<SNIP>I value freedom - truth Justice, and the American way. I value liberty<SNIP>

Maybe you would like to define your interpretation of the "American Way". However, good on you - so why do you defend trump whom the majority view as the antithesis to truth and justice?

7 minutes ago, pegman said:

You really have to wonder  about the character of these people.  

My character is fine. How about yours? I oppose a party that puts forward a candidate suffering from mental deficiencies of age, that promotes an open border, that promotes late term abortion, that would wreck the American gas and oil industry,  that promotes the relocation of American Jobs overseas. I support a party that promotes life,  law and order,  a strong defence, and stands up to China in the South China sea and beyond. That is my character. It has always been the same. How about you?

9 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Maybe you would like to define your interpretation of the "American Way". However, good on you - so why do you defend trump whom the majority view as the antithesis to truth and justice?

See my latest post for your answer

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Searing honesty from man of peace and Nobel nominee Trump. He has done a magnificent job handling the virus. I don't care what the revisionists say, I remember him taking severe steps to limit travel and being bashed by the usual quarters with the usual lame insults. To my mind control fell apart when the leftist mobs hit the street in democrat run states. Hard to blame Trump for this, but maybe another party could rightfully take the blame?

 Looking forward to Trump's next moves in the corona fight. I hope he unveils a vaccine just before Nov 3rd. 

Well, Trump is a master of giving aproxely 35% of Americans hallusions! 

 

Just in case If you are not aware of what hallusions is:

 

hallusions

imaging things and having the feeling that the memory had happened in real life, but in reality, it didn't it is in your mind. it uses all your senses and it comes from mental disorders or even possible very bad illnesses like the Parkinsons Disease. btw it is not a dream

 

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hallusions

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

I think he was correct in not wanting to create panic. But he should have prepared both the people and health authorities, and he failed there.

What countries did you see panic? 

3 minutes ago, Damual Travesty said:

See my latest post for your answer

Some old trump talking points, FUD - Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. e.g. exactly which current Dems policy articulates Open Borders and outsourcing jobs to China?

 

Late term abortions - another false claim

 

https://www.statesman.com/news/20200227/fact-check-do-democrats-support-abortion-up-until-and-after-birth

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

I think he was correct in not wanting to create panic. But he should have prepared both the people and health authorities, and he failed there.

Sure, the public should be expecting that their president use careful words to to avoid overreactions but he still has an absolute responsibility tell the truth. 

 

He says he knew it was bad and serious so why didn't he put much more effort into organizing the knowledge, equipment, training, resources etc., to quickly fight the pandemic for all US citizens.

 

His claims are actually not logical. 

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

No, I don't forget what trump was saying, nor his praise of Xi at the time for self-serving purposes.

And don't forget his friend Kim Jing Un (who he loves).

Wanting to Handel a crisis in a calm straight forward manner is fine the problem with trump is he dident Handel anything he just pretty much stood back used pence for the fall guy and the goveners and local leaders were left to do their best without fed help on top of that there’s a pesky problem of 500 million overpaid for ventilatiors that nobody seems to know what happened to the overage plus no coherent plan and no mask mandate as he continues to hold super spreader events (Ralleys ) trump straight up blew it time for a change

Edited September 10, 20206 yr by Tug

2 hours ago, webfact said:

how deadly .... the novel coronavirus

and how deadly is the flu, hypertension, high blood lipids, obesity, alcohol, diabetes, stress, old age, traffic, live in Thailand ?

You have to see it in relation

Edited September 10, 20206 yr by sweatalot

41 minutes ago, Damual Travesty said:

My character is fine. How about yours? I oppose a party that puts forward a candidate suffering from mental deficiencies of age, that promotes an open border, that promotes late term abortion, that would wreck the American gas and oil industry,  that promotes the relocation of American Jobs overseas. I support a party that promotes life,  law and order,  a strong defence, and stands up to China in the South China sea and beyond. That is my character. It has always been the same. How about you?

You support a party that promotes law and order.

 

That can't be trumps gang, so which party do you mean?

 

(Yes I've heard trump say 'I am the president of law and order', but I laugh my head off every time I hear it. He absolutely doesn't promote balanced, equal & fair justice.)

 

 

Edited September 10, 20206 yr by scorecard

2 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Searing honesty from man of peace and Nobel nominee Trump. He has done a magnificent job handling the virus. I don't care what the revisionists say, I remember him taking severe steps to limit travel and being bashed by the usual quarters with the usual lame insults. To my mind control fell apart when the leftist mobs hit the street in democrat run states. Hard to blame Trump for this, but maybe another party could rightfully take the blame?

 Looking forward to Trump's next moves in the corona fight. I hope he unveils a vaccine just before Nov 3rd. 

'I don't take responsibility at all': Trump deflects blame for coronavirus testing fumble

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/13/trump-coronavirus-testing-128971

 

If he takes no responsibility at all, how can he take credit for anything?

2 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

Expect more of these “bombshell” reports and never trumper “book releases” in the coming weeks complete with pre-made Joe Biden speeches pre-loaded into his teleprompter. 
 

This is nothing new. Trumps been saying all of this publicly since March. 

Another nothing-burger ???? 

Nobody cares... 

45 minutes ago, Damual Travesty said:

I oppose a party that puts forward a candidate suffering from mental deficiencies of age,

Yet support a candidate that has suffered from mental deficiencies since birth.

3 hours ago, webfact said:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump acknowledged in February he knew how deadly and contagious the novel coronavirus was but did not convey that information to the American people because he did not want to create a panic, according to Trump interviews cited in a new book.

Yet much of what else he says is to create panic!

The immigrants are coming to rob and rape.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/maddow-rips-trumps-scare-stories-of-immigrants-coming-to-rape-and-murder-americans-because-its-in-their-nature/

The lefties want to destroy America.

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/trump-dems-want-destroy-america-we-know-it-teaching-kids-were-sinful-wicked

They will take away your guns.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/27/fact-check-donald-trump-warns-the-left-will-confiscate-your-guns/

They want to defund police.

https://pjmedia.com/election/matt-margolis/2020/07/17/chris-wallace-is-wrong-joe-biden-does-want-to-defund-the-police-n659844

Et al ad nauseam.

To save time in response to all the expected 'where is your source?' replies I have posted several

1 hour ago, Damual Travesty said:

As as American, I value American institutions and the rule of law. I fear greatly totalitarianism, single party states, mindless bots who do the bidding of dangerous regimes.  I value secure borders, a strong national Defence, a healthy economy that can manufacture its necessities, fair trade, I value freedom - truth Justice, and the American way. I value liberty.

All worthy sentiments, but I do wonder how you think this is being achieved under Trump. He denigrates the military, buddies up to dictators such as Putin and Kim, has even asked Xi to help him be re-elected. Refuses to release his tax returns, the only President ever to do so. The FBI and Department of Justice have been demoralized.

 

The freedom/liberty thing is looking rather sick. The USA has the highest incarceration rate in the world, and it's the emphasis on personal freedom which has given you over 190,000 coronavirus deaths. You are also streets ahead in the gold medal for active cases. 2.5 million, no wonder your health system is breaking down.

 

IMO, Trump is your most obvious path to the totalitarianism you fear.

Off-topic posts removed. 

 

53 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

Another nothing-burger ???? 

Nobody cares... 

You are gravely mistaken 190,000 dead Americans tends to <deleted> some of us off especially because with competent leadership the total would have been much lower you are wrong dead wrong 

3 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Searing honesty from man of peace and Nobel nominee Trump. He has done a magnificent job handling the virus. I don't care what the revisionists say, I remember him taking severe steps to limit travel and being bashed by the usual quarters with the usual lame insults. To my mind control fell apart when the leftist mobs hit the street in democrat run states. Hard to blame Trump for this, but maybe another party could rightfully take the blame?

 Looking forward to Trump's next moves in the corona fight. I hope he unveils a vaccine just before Nov 3rd. 

 

well, here ya go!  the next move in 44DD chess:

 

Exclusive: White House orders end to COVID-19 airport screenings for international travelers

 

WASHINGTON — The U.S. government on Monday will stop conducting enhanced screening of passengers on inbound international flights for COVID-19, Yahoo News has learned. 

 

https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-the-white-house-orders-end-to-covid-19-airport-screenings-for-international-travelers-172713942.html

 

who needs contact tracing for newly-arrived international travelers who test positive after arrival?  ah, i get it.  if you can't trace the contacts of infected passengers, you can't test those who came in contact with them.  keeps the numbers down.  such amazing numbers.  we have the best numbers.  nobody's seen numbers like ours ever.  i hear people saying we have great numbers.  winning!

3 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

Breathe, mate, breathe. I expect nothing less than the usual suspects acting like nobody remembers the early stages of the virus and what was being said at the time. 

i heard....they're saying....how about what mr. trump "heard" in his top-secret briefings?

 

WASHINGTON - President Donald Trump's head popped up during his top-secret intelligence briefing in the Oval Office on Jan. 28 when the discussion turned to the novel coronavirus outbreak in China.

 

"This will be the biggest national security threat you face in your presidency," national security adviser Robert O'Brien told Trump, according to a new book by Washington Post associate editor Bob Woodward. "This is going to be the roughest thing you face."

Matthew Pottinger, the deputy national security adviser, agreed. He told the president that after reaching contacts in China, it was evident that the world faced a health emergency on par with the flu pandemic of 1918, which killed an estimated 50 million people worldwide.

 

Ten days later, Trump called Woodward and revealed that he thought the situation was far more dire than what he had been saying publicly.

"You just breathe the air and that's how it's passed," Trump said in a Feb. 7 call. "And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. It's also more deadly than even your strenuous flu."

"This is deadly stuff," the president repeated for emphasis.

 

https://www.chron.com/news/article/Trump-says-he-knew-coronavirus-was-deadly-and-15553997.php

 

 

Edited September 10, 20206 yr by ChouDoufu

3 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Searing honesty from man of peace and Nobel nominee Trump. He has done a magnificent job handling the virus. I don't care what the revisionists say, I remember him taking severe steps to limit travel and being bashed by the usual quarters with the usual lame insults. To my mind control fell apart when the leftist mobs hit the street in democrat run states. Hard to blame Trump for this, but maybe another party could rightfully take the blame?

 Looking forward to Trump's next moves in the corona fight. I hope he unveils a vaccine just before Nov 3rd. 

I don’t think rational person believes over 194,000 Americans dead is anything approaching a ‘magnificent job handling the virus’.

 

We now have confirmation from Trump that he lied to play down the threat and still you defend this utter failure.

 

There is no vaccine available, so back to Trump’s plan A - ingesting disinfectant and ‘powerful lights’.

 

Disagreeing on so many things as we do, I still for your own good suggest you disregard medical advice from the self confessed liar and rely on that of medical professionals.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 10, 20206 yr by Chomper Higgot

3 hours ago, PatOngo said:

Yes, magnificent! Only 190,000 dead!

So far!

5 minutes ago, PatOngo said:

So far!

 

190,000 dead?  it is what it is.

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1 hour ago, scorecard said:

Sure, the public should be expecting that their president use careful words to to avoid overreactions but he still has an absolute responsibility tell the truth. 

 

He says he knew it was bad and serious so why didn't he put much more effort into organizing the knowledge, equipment, training, resources etc., to quickly fight the pandemic for all US citizens.

 

His claims are actually not logical. 

Thanks for the agreement.

3 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

You mean like when literally everyone from Fauci to Democrats and media talking heads were telling everyone NOT to wear masks? 

You are surely an alt-right bot jettisoning posts unchecked? No living creature could honestly throw these partisan jibes out when so many have lost their lives.

Trump is not just  Joe nobody. He was and is the USA president. The thing the American people could have got from him is Honesty.  At the start of the pandemic, he could have said, that it is a new virus, and may be much stronger than the regular flu, so be cautious and listen to the news and be aware.  The way he has gone on about many other topics like the importance of guns. Or the threat of immigrants. etc. his idea of causing panic is pretty pathetic.   This guy is so used to lying, I guess telling the truth is just too foreign for him to understand.    I know that this is just another of his minor flaws that his followers tolerate.  Blind people that they all are.

Geezer

8 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

You are surely an alt-right bot jettisoning posts unchecked? No living creature could honestly throw these partisan jibes out when so many have lost their lives.

Suggest you hit trump and co with that line...

7 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

You are surely an alt-right bot jettisoning posts unchecked? No living creature could honestly throw these partisan jibes out when so many have lost their lives.

Posted from the St. Petersburg troll farm, a.k.a. Trump campaign HQ.