Paul DS Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 On 9/11/2020 at 2:00 PM, Leaver said: Looks like they have gone from 600 baht, to 450 baht, to 300 baht. The dolphins and seals must have accepted a pay cut. ???? Probably will give them less to eat, it should be banned! I'm sure some will disagree but there it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Pie 47 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Paul DS said: Probably will give them less to eat, it should be banned! I'm sure some will disagree but there it is! I agree with you, all animal shows should be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 16 hours ago, Don Mega said: What method of training dolphins do the Thai's use ? Torture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Leaver said: Torture. got proof or ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 9 hours ago, Meat Pie 47 said: I agree with you, all animal shows should be banned. Crufts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted September 13, 2020 Author Share Posted September 13, 2020 The trainers are foreigners, 2 men and a woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, Don Mega said: got proof or ? Well documented. He turned from trainer to activists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ric_O'Barry Official Trailer of The Cove, showing where many captive dolphins are sourced. Edited September 13, 2020 by Leaver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 27 minutes ago, Leaver said: Well documented. He turned from trainer to activists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ric_O'Barry Official Trailer of The Cove, showing where many captive dolphins are sourced. So no proof in regards to the dolphins at Dolphinarium. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Don Mega said: So no proof in regards to the dolphins at Dolphinarium. I doubt they have been trained any differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Leaver said: I doubt they have been trained any differently. So after the movie and all the years of animal rights activism Ric O'Barry was unable to change trainers ways ? Shame about those 2 Dolphins he killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted September 13, 2020 Author Share Posted September 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Leaver said: I doubt they have been trained any differently. Does this mean you won't be attending? Do you think the dolphins would be better off having paying attendees or folks just bad mouthing without any plan. Sometimes over zealous people do more harm than good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted September 13, 2020 Author Share Posted September 13, 2020 Military trains dolphins for missions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Don Mega said: So after the movie and all the years of animal rights activism Ric O'Barry was unable to change trainers ways ? Shame about those 2 Dolphins he killed. It not just the dolphins. Look how the elephants are trained here, and what they do to the tigers so people can touch them. Do you condone it? Edited September 13, 2020 by Leaver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: Does this mean you won't be attending? Do you think the dolphins would be better off having paying attendees or folks just bad mouthing without any plan. Sometimes over zealous people do more harm than good. Correct. I will not be attending. Many tourists do not attend for the same reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: Military trains dolphins for missions. I guess that makes it alright then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Leaver said: It not just the dolphins. Look how the elephants are trained here, and what they do to the tigers so people can touch them. Highly doubt the Elephants and Tigers are trained by the same people as the dolphins this thread is based around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, Don Mega said: Highly doubt the Elephants and Tigers are trained by the same people as the dolphins this thread is based around. Of course. Just saying, the animals in these shows are trained with questionable methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted September 13, 2020 Author Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Leaver said: Of course. Just saying, the animals in these shows are trained with questionable methods. Give it a rest, life not fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceKadet Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 On 9/11/2020 at 10:30 PM, Pattaya46 said: Just curious, but before criticize Thailand again, which western country doesn't have such shows ? I would say; Most of them! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceKadet Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Don Mega said: So after the movie and all the years of animal rights activism Ric O'Barry was unable to change trainers ways ? Shame about those 2 Dolphins he killed. Except maybe he didn't. Dolphins are, unlike human, voluntary breathers. This means that they have to consciously remember to breathe, when they surface of course. That also means that only one half of dolphins brain can sleep at a time. Rick himself have said that he turned activist when one of his "Flipper" dolphins came up to him and stopped breathing. Basically, he watched the dolphin commit suicide. But IMO, anybody wanting to watch a dolphin show, should watch "The Cove" first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 28 minutes ago, SpaceKadet said: On 9/11/2020 at 5:30 PM, Pattaya46 said: Just curious, but before criticize Thailand again, which western country doesn't have such shows ? I would say; Most of them! ??? List of dolphinariums - wikipedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceKadet Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pattaya46 said: ??? List of dolphinariums - wikipedia I do not regard Asia, or Americas as the western countries... concentrate on Europe and see what you get... And disregard all red marked, places that no longer have a webpage. Should tell you something.... Edited September 13, 2020 by SpaceKadet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, SpaceKadet said: I do not regard Asia, or Americas as the western countries... concentrate on Europe and see what you get... Belgium Bulgaria Denmark France Germany Greece Iceland Italy Lithuania Malta Netherlands Portugal Romania Russia Spain Sweden Ukraine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceKadet Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 29 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said: Belgium Bulgaria Denmark France Germany Greece Iceland Italy Lithuania Malta Netherlands Portugal Romania Russia Spain Sweden Ukraine Great, and now, check out their webpages and tell me how many have dolphin shows.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 4 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: Give it a rest, life not fair. Defeatist attitude. Vote with your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polpott Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 9 hours ago, Pattaya46 said: ??? List of dolphinariums - wikipedia Banned in the UK for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wongkitlo Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 On 9/11/2020 at 10:39 PM, aussiexpat said: Sounds like a great show. I can't understand all the negative posts as these shows are all around the World? Maybe we should worry more about the elephants, tigers and those poor crocodiles that have a head shoved in their mouth every day for the camera The crocodiles get their revenge. Supposedly it is a short lived job. My wife's nephew worked there and he had a video of what happens when the crocodile gets sick of it (or they don't give it enough drugs). Supposedly a semi regular occurence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polpott Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Wongkitlo said: The crocodiles get their revenge. Supposedly it is a short lived job. My wife's nephew worked there and he had a video of what happens when the crocodile gets sick of it (or they don't give it enough drugs). Supposedly a semi regular occurence. Its a crocodile farm. Eventually they get eaten. Very tasty too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wongkitlo Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, polpott said: Its a crocodile farm. Eventually they get eaten. Very tasty too. This was Si Racha tiger zoo. I think they just keep them. I wasn't commenting about the ethics of it. Just telling the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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