1 hour ago, Poet said:

Something that absolutely no one here has said.

How about, instead of trying to distract from it, we think about why you made a post containing several claims that are not only untrue, but the exact opposite of reality.

Are you suggesting that the EU actually took some sort of action against China in the wake of Tiananmen? Because that's the implication right? I'm some sort of Trump supporter saying nasty things about Obama?

Which would be great, right, because suddenly it wouldn't matter that I'm pointing out how wildly wrong your claims are because I would now be a RAAAAACIST!!!! A big, evil, possibly orange-skinned racist!

*Sigh* When did it become acceptable for people to abandon all intellectual integrity when discussing politics?

 

I think he was kind of implying, and cleverly so, that the EU was established in November 1st, 1993, nearly 3 1/12 years after the Tiananmen square massacre. 

11 hours ago, Morch said:

 

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=EUSSR

Thanks @Morch for the info.

 

I think we can dispense with making up names.   Continued use of EUSSR will get your post removed and if it continues, warnings will be issued.  

 

On 9/15/2020 at 4:32 AM, webfact said:

While modest, the new deal is a trade coup for Europe as U.S., Australian or New Zealand producers will no longer be able to use the protected names on their exports to China, although there is a transition period for certain cheeses.

 

Protected names? Maybe this is naive of me, but shouldn't a news article be written in a way to make the news digestible? Protected name? .... Cracker Barrel? Kraft? WTH does this mean?... Transition period for certain cheeses... so this is a cheese war?

 

I must be missing something here.

On 9/15/2020 at 12:09 PM, candide said:

What you claim in the first paragraph is not true (both sentences).

What you state after that is true. However, the current US administration is not particularly pro-EU.

Correction, the current administration wants a fair deal across the board and is not about the decades old status quo. 

On 9/15/2020 at 3:27 PM, DrTuner said:

First demand should be turning off the Great Firewall. After that, CCP would eventually be toppled by the Chinese themselves, after they see what the world thinks of them.

 

Otherwise, wall the commies in and throw long knives over the wall. Check again in 200 years.

Every China dynasty has failed, each and every one of 'em. 

 

The present bunch of CCP Boyz in Beijing are but another Chinese dynasty, this time in business suits and Florsheims. CCP and their wholly owned and operated PRC Government constitute a young and nervous dynasty which is why they are more obsessed about internal control than any dynasty that came before it and collapsed. This dynasty has unprecedented technological controls as you reference in your post, controls they are correct to believe precludes another Tiananmen by 'em.

 

The inherent flaw that will take down the CCP dynasty is that when things get tough as they are presently the Chinese give more power and authority to the ruler who is also the guy who is mucking up things. Xi has already become emperor for life and this is the dead giveaway the CCP dynasty has already begun its decline. Indeed, the CCP Dynasty that is built on quicksand will be long gone 200 years from now.   

Europe knows that what's been called Trump's Trade War against China is in fact the USA response to the CCP's attacks -- now led by Xi Jinping -- against both trade and the entire post WW II global system. Beijing's practice of its mercantilism is also designed to bust up international rules of trade, interaction, interrelationships. 

 

Trump's so called Trade War is in fact a counterattack against Beijing's industrial espionage, intellectual theft, restrictions on capital, investment and imports, a multiplicity of regulatory and bureaucratic barriers and controls. It is to reverse Beijing's policies to support its own exports with massive and extensive subsidies to include of course price dumping, threats to cut off medical supplies during the global pandemic and so on as yet another means of its political control throughout the West. 

 

The drive of the CCP Dictator-Tyrants in Beijing is to become a global hegemon -- a word they use all the time against the USA -- and now the US has got busy putting a stop to it by first slowing and reversing it. The European economy is itself more than strong enough to allow negotiation on better than a level playing field against the CCP. So the challenge is to get the Europeans and the USA with Japan back together to play in the same league against the other guy in the opposing league led by Beijing and where they hate democracy and human rights with a malign passion. 

"Tear down your barriers".

 

After all, it is not as if the EU is keen on barriers is it now?