robsamui Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 22 minutes ago, Matzzon said: See now everybody have something else to have problem with. If one wish to come to Thailand, then one have to live up to the requirements. Seems to me that it ain´t many ones that wish to come to Thailand, just many ones that wish to put everything down and complain. Congratulations to you all! AHA! You are prescient and can foresee the future! Good man! Thailand will be getting ONE tourist in the months to come. Just one tourist. You are correct, I think. It seems to me also that it ain´t many ones that will wish to come to Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hioctane Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Matzzon said: Why in the world would I complain about that? I already have insurance that more than meet the small requirements they have. You know, that is one way to show that you are aware and understand that you need protection in a foreign country. Actually I´ve gone one step further. My wife and two daughters also have very good insurances. How is it with your protection? You seem to be the one complaining. Cheers! The complainers are the ones that don’t want pay $50 for 30 days insurance or be stuck in quarantine for 2 weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post connda Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 I remember when Thai lawmakers were loathe to pass a bill to require tourist to pay 200 THB on entry to create a general fund to cover anyone who may fall ill. "Oh, we can't do that!!! It will negatively impact tourism!!!" Now the government and insurance companies work together to provide insurance that no one in their right mind is going to purchase. 10,000. 20,000, 30,000, 40,000+ THB premium or more? The government has decided to nurture a corporatocracy and allow it to feed on foreigners - banks and insurance companies are the direct beneficiaries of the Thai government's plan to slaughter, gut, and cook the golden geese. That may work for those who are retired here and have establish assets or those guys married and providing for a family. They are captive audience with a reason to stay. And I have no doubt that the evil Eye of Sauron will turn in our direction soon enough. To use a quote by Matt Taibbi, Thailand, it's government, and beneficiary banks and insurance companies have become "a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money." However - tourists? Backpackers, budget, and value tourists who make up the lion's share of tourism? Regular people who economize so they have extra funds to spend while enjoying their vacations? None of these folks are going to buy insurance that is the same relative cost of a plane ticket in order to grace Thailand with their presence. None of these people are going to pay two are three times what it would have cost them to tour in 2019 and before. It's all about greed and avarice. The foreigners that the elite Thais hate and despise are now targets for an outright wealth harvest. "1. Foreigners are made out of gold and are walking ATMS. 2. They all will pay through the nose for the honour of being allowed the esteemed privilege of entering and touring Father Thailand - after a two week quarantine in an expensive quarantine hotel, of course <smile>.1. No they aren't. 2. No they won't. <frown> Kiss tourism goodbye Thailand. <"Bye bye"> 8 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, meechai said: Sure it needs to be remembered Thailand got popular during the Vietnam war as it served as a major R&R spot Later why did many go to Thailand? Dollar/Pound/Euro went further is why & folks concerned with that are not the wealthy well heeled folks Are you sure about that? IMO it only became popular when mass air travel started and that was after the Vietnam war was long over. A few hippies on the trail don't make a place popular. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 minute ago, robsamui said: It seems to me also that it ain´t many ones that will wish to come to Thailand. Ok, I understand, Sir. Can you then please explain why there is so much moaning and complaining on Internets biggest Thailand forum about it then? I think you are wrong. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, meechai said: Not to mention.....They require a fit to fly & a covid swab test within 72 hours of take off. So...That in a sense levels the field as only non infected should be on the plane Except of course Thai nationals who for some insane reason are allowed to fly infected/untested Mean time the insurrance has your premium money anyway and the airline your money too ....highest you get a nice printed voucher ....Happy Holliday's???? And maybe on top coming only airlines accepted by Thai Embassy when applying visa ...."the new Thai airways " maybe ....? (Just a thought ..before they pick it ..) ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 5 hours ago, AgentSmith said: I agree. My worldwide insurance policy covers me up to 2 million euros, 100% in and out patient, and covid-19 coverage is included. I sure do hope they won't force expensive redundant insurance upon us. I can prove I have insurance and that should really be enough. Same with me. I sent a blank copy of the current Thai Gov format medical certificate to my insurance co and they filled it in & stamped it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, hioctane said: The complainers are the ones that don’t want pay $50 for 30 days insurance or be stuck in quarantine for 2 weeks. Then one would assume they do not think it´s so important to come to Thailand. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisKC Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 We want Tourists, but, but, but... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hioctane Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, connda said: I remember when Thai lawmakers were loathe to pass a bill to require tourist to pay 200 THB on entry to create a general fund to cover anyone who may fall ill. "Oh, we can't do that!!! It will negatively impact tourism!!!" Now the government and insurance companies work together to provide insurance that no one in their right mind is going to purchase. 10,000. 20,000, 30,000, 40,000+ THB premium or more? The government has decided to nurture a corporatocracy and allow it to feed on foreigners - banks and insurance companies are the direct beneficiaries of the Thai government's plan to slaughter, gut, and cook the golden geese. That may work for those who are retired here and have establish assets or those guys married and providing for a family. They are captive audience with a reason to stay. And I have no doubt that the evil Eye of Sauron will turn in our direction soon enough. To use a quote by Matt Taibbi, Thailand, it's government, and beneficiary banks and insurance companies have become "a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money." However - tourists? Backpackers, budget, and value tourists who make up the lion's share of tourism? Regular people who economize so they have extra funds to spend while enjoying their vacations? None of these folks are going to buy insurance that is the same relative cost of a plane ticket in order to grace Thailand with their presence. None of these people are going to pay two are three times what it would have cost them to tour in 2019 and before. It's all about greed and avarice. The foreigners that the elite Thais hate and despise are now targets for an outright wealth harvest. "1. Foreigners are made out of gold and are walking ATMS. 2. They all will pay through the nose for the honour of being allowed the esteemed privilege of entering and touring Father Thailand - after a two week quarantine in an expensive quarantine hotel, of course <smile>.1. No they aren't. 2. No they won't. <frown> Kiss tourism goodbye Thailand. <"Bye bye"> That is the price for a whole year! You pay based on how long you need insurance for. It sounds like 100k Covid19 insurance will cost around $50 a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Are you sure about that? IMO it only became popular when mass air travel started and that was after the Vietnam war was long over. A few hippies on the trail don't make a place popular. heheh well yes but I mean the US Govt spent a lot there & those that R&R there surely had memories that brought possibly them back later in life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sydebolle Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 Ha, ha, ha, ha! It took complete absence of alien and dirty farang to put a 3 x 3 months visa into place and, instead of granting a nine months visa for THB 6'000 - no, it has to occupy so and so many public servants rubber-stamping and photocopying - and hence it is 3 x 3 at THB 2'000/each. The quarantine remains and now they come up with a Thai insurance scheme of USD 100'000 (notabene being THB 3 million) with a premium level of 1% (which is high risk calculation). Fork out USD 1'000 for a local insurance, arrive for a 14 days quarantine at another USD 1'500 - USD 3'000 results in USD 2'500 "landing fee" before you are allowed to travel around in Thailand. Question now remains, what kind of excellent weed is being smoked at all those government offices and state agencies? Enlarge the circus tents without any further delay, the flow of clowns is never ending ...... 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean60 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Precious time will tell how these plans are successful. I hope for the sake of everyone that we will get 1200 people per month entering Thailand under these conditions.!!! What is Plan B? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisKC Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Don't worry, there will be another plan tomorrow! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 minute ago, connda said: However - tourists? Backpackers, budget, and value tourists who make up the lion's share of tourism? Regular people who economize so they have extra funds to spend while enjoying their vacations? None of these folks are going to buy insurance that is the same relative cost of a plane ticket in order to grace Thailand with their presence. None of these people are going to pay two are three times what it would have cost them to tour in 2019 and before. I don't think bagpackers are of much importance now. They usually arrived in LOS and departed overland to surrounding countries before returning overland to fly out. I understood that immigration changes stopped that, but tell me if I'm wrong. The one or two week tourist on visa exempt staying on a package tour would have been far more significant, IMO. I would expect travel companies to negotiate deals to be able to provide insurance at reduced rates to be included in the package price. None of these people are going to pay two are three times what it would have cost them to tour in 2019 and before. LOL. Bagpackers arrived and stayed near bagpacker central in Bkk where they drank beer and told each other about all the places they had been while never actually walking around Bkk. They then hopped a thief special tourist bus to Phangan to drink buckets and take illegal drugs at the Full Moon Party. After that it was off to Laos to party and go tubing etc. I suppose that could be considered "touring", but more like a pub crawl to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potless Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Chelseafan said: 4 hours ago, Chelseafan said: I would rather think it wise to look at what the Thai insurance DOES NOT cover Someone contracts Covid and is hospitalised. Health deteriorates and suffers a heart attack, stroke or other ailment while their body is in a weakened state. Into intensive care. Would the additional treatment costs be classed as Covid related? How would the two situations be dealt with by the insurance policy? As you suggest, devil in the detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Rodriguez Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 everybody the same and still neighbor poor cheap slave labour needs.... no insurance at all as none could afford it anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pancho Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 I saw this in a movie. A group of hospitals formed a shell LLC, off shore ( Hong Kong ) specifically to fund satellite agents selling “ emergency health insurance “for foreign tourists to qualify entrance into their beautiful country. It included an astronomical amount of coverage for Treatment of a virtually non existent virus, that was basically undetectable, which had a 99.98 % survival rate, in which , if detected, triggered inconceivable, unjustified amounts of care/ billing, (and this was the good part ) routing the patients medical cases, back through the hospitals that owned The off shore LLC !!!...................and ...............the whole thing was mandatory by law! Brilliant. It was genius!, these guys fooled everyone , lied to the patients, the public, the hospitals, the insurance company’s ( never mind, they were in on it ) and the highly reputable local and national news agencies. And they all got rich, and lived happily ever after. I love Hollywood endings ???? 2 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, meechai said: heheh well yes but I mean the US Govt spent a lot there & those that R&R there surely had memories that brought possibly them back later in life The GI of the early 70s came back later to relive the memory, and yes, they were tourists then. In the early 70s I had the misfortune of being taken to a GI bar in Bkk. Curtained alcoves where hookers "entertained" the boys, bored participants in a live sex show- I couldn't wait to get out of the place. Back then they even had thug touts for the hookers. I much preferred the nightlife years after the last GI left LOS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gary Maneval Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 5 hours ago, AgentSmith said: I agree. My worldwide insurance policy covers me up to 2 million euros, 100% in and out patient, and covid-19 coverage is included. I sure do hope they won't force expensive redundant insurance upon us. I can prove I have insurance and that should really be enough. This makes no sense to me. I am an American. I am retired military. I have Medicare and Tri Care for Life. Why would I want to buy some outrageous policy when and if I am only going to be there for six months. At any rate, can anyone here tell me how to get ahold of these "insurance companies" so I can get a quote? I still don't get how they think someone is going to vacation in Thailand under these Financially stupid requirements to include 2 weeks quarantine at our own expense!!!!! who do they think they are kidding/??????? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Max69xl Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Chelseafan said: So if I have a comprehensive policy already, including Covid insurance, I have to purchase again ? "If the traveller is from a high-risk country, the insurance premium could be as high as THB43,200". Assuming UK is high-risk then that's over £1000 ! SERIOUSLY !? Every foreigner need to be tested before departure, so how can there be high or low risk countries?? If you don't test negative you won't get on the plane. It's really simple. That's what you should think about when reading the article. This is just another insurance scam when we know that every tourist can get a much cheaper insurance at home. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, Gary Maneval said: This makes no sense to me. I am an American. I am retired military. I have Medicare and Tri Care for Life. Why would I want to buy some outrageous policy when and if I am only going to be there for six months. At any rate, can anyone here tell me how to get ahold of these "insurance companies" so I can get a quote? I still don't get how they think someone is going to vacation in Thailand under these Financially stupid requirements to include 2 weeks quarantine at our own expense!!!!! who do they think they are kidding/??????? Follow the money and all is clear. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Max69xl said: Every foreigner need to be tested before departure, so how can there be high or low risk countries?? If you don't test negative you won't get on the plane. It's really simple. That's what you should think about when reading the article. This is just another insurance scam when we know that every tourist can get a much cheaper insurance at home. Anyone can become positive AFTER they take a test. They could even pick it up at the airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 25 minutes ago, meechai said: To be honest Thailand never was a big destination of "Quality Tourists" There are those of us who visit due to having relatives/family/jobs etc & there are the mongers That in reality is about it If Thailand does not know who butters their bread by now then gawd help their delusions I take it that those that spend around 6 months of the year here do not fall into your definition of "quality tourists". I know many that are not looking forward to the winter in the UK. The bread is certainly not buttered by the delusional views of those on this forum full of their own self importance. The real reality is a bigger picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Monday Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 34 minutes ago, AbeNormal said: that is covered with a mandatory balance in a Thai bank as explained by an IO last year Missing the point. No farang and will be allowed to remain in Thailand without expensive and usually redundant Thai insurance. Non-B, Thai Wife, Retired, all nothing more than visitors. There will be more changes watch this space. Covid-19 is just the thin end of the wedge. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JusticeGB Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 Thai companies won't insure anyone over 75 but overseas companies will. So if it is made compulsory to get Thai insurance no one over 75 will be able to come to Thailand again. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dice Man Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Shey420 said: They do get it. This is why their plan is to only have one to three flights per week. 1200 per month. Quilty tourist is what they been pushing since talks of reopening started. They can definitely get 1200 people per month with this new scheme. They can definitely get those numbers every month for the foreseeable future. While added more flights and more asq hotels and visitors. This is their ultimate plan. The question is can they hit there money goals while in this scheme. While every other business around them go under. I doubt that but it seems they are willing to have that collateral damage. yes...thats the question -can 1200 people every month or even 5000 a month hit any targets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 33 minutes ago, hioctane said: Isn’t that because the European tax payers pay a <deleted> load of taxes and will foot the bill? Nothing is ever “free!” However it is covered in the EU is not important... the fact is it is covered. Which is not the case here, and Thai insurance companies queuing up to squeeze more money out of travelers is not going to win them any friends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max69xl Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Anyone can become positive AFTER they take a test. They could even pick it up at the airport. It doesn't matter where you come from, you still have to sit in quarantine for exactly same amount of time. Everybody is in the same boat. You didn't think about that, did you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Time Traveller Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 Is US$100,000 insurance coverage enough? I thought US$1 million would be necessary. Once Thai hospitals realize every foreigner patient has $100,000 insurance coverage they're going to up-charge on everything. All the tests, all the machines, no expenses spared. Actually now I think about it, probably they should make it mandatory US$10 million insurance policy for every foreigner all the time. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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