NanLaew Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I notice that while KLM were a frequent Bangkok visitor during the earlier repatriation flight scenario with sometimes two flights daily, regionally they now only service Kuala Lumpur, Singapore and Manila. Their first BKK flight availability is 6 January 2021. A quick check on Air France website shows the same date of first availability. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FritsSikkink Posted September 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2020 Air France - KLM is one company. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pi Tao Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 https://wwws.airfrance.fr/search/offers?connections=BKK:A:20201001>CDG:A&pax=1:0:0:0:0:0:0:0&sessionId=759D8B6471CA2EB991377D659C80DAB6.a61s3&market=fr_FR_fr&cabinClass=ECONOMY&bookingFlow=LEISURE&activeConnection=0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susco Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Pi Tao said: https://wwws.airfrance.fr/search/offers?connections=BKK:A:20201001>CDG:A&pax=1:0:0:0:0:0:0:0&sessionId=759D8B6471CA2EB991377D659C80DAB6.a61s3&market=fr_FR_fr&cabinClass=ECONOMY&bookingFlow=LEISURE&activeConnection=0 All flights are 451 Euro, those with a duration of 14 hours, as well as those with a 27 hour duration? Ever considered that those may actually not be effective flights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Air France - KLM is one company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logosone Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Looks like fake news, a quick search on KLM shows they have flights available mid-October. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susco Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Logosone said: Looks like fake news, a quick search on KLM shows they have flights available mid-October. Did you try Paris - Bangkok flights, instead of Bangkok - Paris, like the previous poster? Oh and at 2496 Euro, I'm gonna give those January flights a miss as well https://wwws.airfrance.fr/en/search/open-dates?pax=1:0:0:0:0:0:0:0&cabinClass=ECONOMY&activeConnection=0&connections=PAR:C:20201001>BKK:A&bookingFlow=LEISURE Edited September 21, 2020 by Susco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabhand Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Logosone said: Looks like fake news, a quick search on KLM shows they have flights available mid-October. Nope. Looking at both their booking sites, both KLM and AF have no BKK flights until January, as per the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logosone Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Susco said: Did you try Paris - Bangkok flights, instead of Bangkok - Paris, like the previous poster? Oh and at 2496 Euro, I'm gonna give those January flights a miss as well https://wwws.airfrance.fr/en/search/open-dates?pax=1:0:0:0:0:0:0:0&cabinClass=ECONOMY&activeConnection=0&connections=PAR:C:20201001>BKK:A&bookingFlow=LEISURE I searched KLM flights from Bangkok to Frankfurt. There are lots of options available in October at different, reasonable prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 hours ago, FritsSikkink said: Air France - KLM is one company. Yes, I know but they run two separate airlines with two separate fleets operating from two separate hub airports. KL were a regular repatriation carrier to /from Bangkok whereas AF wasn't. 2 hours ago, Logosone said: I searched KLM flights from Bangkok to Frankfurt. There are lots of options available in October at different, reasonable prices. Not on KLM's website you didn't. This was a search for a late September departure and a early December return. Look at the yellow highlighted bit. You can confirm this on their 'where we fly' map on their website. https://www.klm.com/destinations/th/en/search?origin=FRA&originType=AIRPORT&pos=DE From Amsterdam: From Frankfurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, NanLaew said: Yes, I know but they run two separate airlines with two separate fleets operating from two separate hub airports. KL were a regular repatriation carrier to /from Bangkok whereas AF wasn't. Not on KLM's website you didn't. This was a search for a late September departure and a early December return. Look at the yellow highlighted bit. You can confirm this on their 'where we fly' map on their website. https://www.klm.com/destinations/th/en/search?origin=FRA&originType=AIRPORT&pos=DE From Amsterdam: From Frankfurt Air France and KLM shared codes for their BKK flights (same plane from AMS - BKK) Edited September 21, 2020 by FritsSikkink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alainpm Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Pi Tao said: https://wwws.airfrance.fr/search/offers?connections=BKK:A:20201001>CDG:A&pax=1:0:0:0:0:0:0:0&sessionId=759D8B6471CA2EB991377D659C80DAB6.a61s3&market=fr_FR_fr&cabinClass=ECONOMY&bookingFlow=LEISURE&activeConnection=0 that's 1 way flight BKK Paris; there is no flight Paris to BKK anymore until 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 51 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: Air France and KLM shared codes for their BKK flights (same plane from AMS - BKK) Air France showing 4-digit flight numbers which means it is a KLM flight operating but according to KLM's website, there's nothing bookable until 6 January. Same on their smartphone app. If all those flights are full, they won't be going broke any time soon. FWIW flightaware shows KL 873 landed on time at BKK almost two hours ago. Go figure. Edited September 21, 2020 by NanLaew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetops Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 4 hours ago, NanLaew said: I notice that while KLM were a frequent Bangkok visitor during the earlier repatriation flight scenario with sometimes two flights daily, regionally they now only service Kuala Lumpur, Singapore and Manila. Their first BKK flight availability is 6 January 2021. A quick check on Air France website shows the same date of first availability. The KLM ones seemed to disappear around a week ago as mentioned here: https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1182999-traveling-from-london-on-eva/?tab=comments#comment-15825025 The ones you mention, plus those to Jakarta, Taipei and Hong Kong transit stopped at BKK and could previously be used for repatriation, but looks like that's finished now. And AF116 from Paris seems to be operating today (21/9/20) but that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VMOMMO Posted September 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2020 Some carriers are still flying but there are no passengers or cabin crew, just belly freight. It doesn't do you much good unless you're a box. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetops Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, VMOMMO said: Some carriers are still flying but there are no passengers or cabin crew, just belly freight. It doesn't do you much good unless you're a box. The KLM ones mentioned are all carrying passengers, just not any booked to BKK any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallybee Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Since Thailand is closed for incoming flights,there are of course no bookable flights AMS-BKK. But there are flights BKK-AMS. That said, there are now flights AMS-BKK but only bookable thru the Thai Embassy, as repatriation flights. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanaplaza666 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 hours ago, VMOMMO said: Some carriers are still flying but there are no passengers or cabin crew, just belly freight. It doesn't do you much good unless you're a box. Or in a box ???? sorry don't mean anything with that but just had to make that joke . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 KLM was flying AMS-BKK-MNL-BKK-AMS - KL 875/876, and AMS-BKK-KUL-BKK-AMS - KL 873/874 Also see they have AMS-BKK-CGK-BKK-AMS - KL 875/876 AMS-BKK-TPE-BKK-AMS - KL 873/874 AMS-BKK-HKG-BKK-AMS - KL 887/888 These flights operate 3 or 4 times weekly, oe less frequently. Not sure what's up with the KLM schedules going forward. Maybe new schedules are being loaded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Air Asia same same, December no flights anymore between Udon Thani and U-Tapao. Guess they don’t know yet when and how to schedule any business as Thailand is and remains a loose cannon as far as planning anything related to border crossing. Call Phiphat, Prayuth or sweetie darling Anutin, he‘s in charge of „dirty Farang“ affairs it seems .................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 FWIW three KLM flights departed SBIA/BKK yesterday evening, all three heading to AMS, currently in flight. KL 888 (from HKG) https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ph-bhm#2591210f KL 876 (from CGK) https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ph-bho#25912e63 KL 874 (from TPE) https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ph-bvb#25913c7b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetops Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 17 hours ago, mtls2005 said: Not sure what's up with the KLM schedules going forward. I think they're mostly (all?) still running and KL875 is approaching Bangkok as I type, they're just not taking bookings with a final destination of Bangkok any longer. Maybe there was a restriction on their permission as there is with the Emirates one, or maybe numbers are being limited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, treetops said: I think they're mostly (all?) still running and KL875 is approaching Bangkok as I type, they're just not taking bookings with a final destination of Bangkok any longer. Maybe there was a restriction on their permission as there is with the Emirates one, or maybe numbers are being limited? Looks like KL 873/874 are AMS-BKK-TPE-BKK-AMS, KL875/876 are AMS-BKK-CGK-BKK-AMS and KL887/888 are AMS-BKK-HKG-BKK-AMS. They are still heavy lifting on repatriation (and cargo) flights by the look of it. Edited September 22, 2020 by NanLaew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetops Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, NanLaew said: Looks like KL 873/874 are AMS-BKK-TPE-BKK-AMS, KL875/876 are AMS-BKK-CGK-BKK-AMS and KL887/888 are AMS-BKK-HKG-BKK-AMS. They are still heavy lifting on repatriation (and cargo) flights by the look of it. The TPE one goes to Kuala Lumpur on the days it doesn't go to TPE. Similarly the CGK one goes to Manila. All still seem to be routed through BKK, but no seats for sale except to the final destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueScouse Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Two weeks ago I flew KLM from Kuala Lumpur to Amsterdam. Plane stopped at Bangkok for crew change and fuel. No passengers boarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, BlueScouse said: Two weeks ago I flew KLM from Kuala Lumpur to Amsterdam. Plane stopped at Bangkok for crew change and fuel. No passengers boarded. That's a welcome clarification. Looks like it's their regional fly-through hub. What passenger load did you estimate for your KUL-BKK-AMS flight? There's something curious going on with BKK at the moment. A few weeks back they had restored daily non-stop service to KUL (Malaysian) and CGK (Garuda) but that appears to have disappeared. Looks like SQ to SIN are the only consistent daily service with one flight per day. I reckon CAAT are the ones deciding who can stopover and maybe funneling any paying passengers onto the dwindling number of limited-stop repatriation flights? Edited September 23, 2020 by NanLaew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJAS Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 On 9/21/2020 at 2:51 PM, VMOMMO said: It doesn't do you much good unless you're a box. Or in one?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 KL 876 shows as for sale BKK-AMS. Pretty sure you could fly out tonight, departs BKK ~ 23:50. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ph-bhp 16.535 THB all in. Seems to be available daily fro the foreseeable future. https://www.klm.co.th/search/offers?pax=1:0:0:0:0:0:0:0&cabinClass=ECONOMY&activeConnection=0&connections=BKK:A:20200923>AMS:A In October KLM shows some AF flights via CDG. On 9/21/2020 at 5:03 PM, Nanaplaza666 said: Or in a box ???? sorry don't mean anything with that but just had to make that joke . That's why cabin staff refer to us as SLF (Self Loading Freight). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 hours ago, mtls2005 said: KL 876 shows as for sale BKK-AMS. Pretty sure you could fly out tonight, departs BKK ~ 23:50. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ph-bhp 16.535 THB all in. Seems to be available daily fro the foreseeable future. https://www.klm.co.th/search/offers?pax=1:0:0:0:0:0:0:0&cabinClass=ECONOMY&activeConnection=0&connections=BKK:A:20200923>AMS:A In October KLM shows some AF flights via CDG. That's why cabin staff refer to us as SLF (Self Loading Freight). Thanks for that. It appears that the trick is purchasing one-way tickets. If you plug in dates for a return, their website (and AF's) punts you off to January 2021 as first available outbound. It was also revealed on another thread that o/w is the only way to buy a ticket BKK - LHR on EVA's website at the moment. If you want a return, it too shoots off to January for outbound availability. Funnily enough, although various airline websites have a highlighted link to Covid-19 related Q and A pages, I haven't seen any of them state that one-way ticket purchases are currently the ONLY option. Flights to the US have long been the biggest issue but has anyone plugged in a o/w fare search? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, NanLaew said: Flights to the US have long been the biggest issue but has anyone plugged in a o/w fare search? There are hundreds of options for flying from Thailand to the U.S. Thousands of people have flown back. I'd recommend QR, or KE. Both have daily flights. QR has the best COVID policy, and you can add on an AA or B6 segment, and they service the most cities in the U.S. from DOH. KE is good for JFK, partnership with DL, they have a daily departure BKK-ICN. 33 minutes ago, NanLaew said: Thanks for that. It appears that the trick is purchasing one-way tickets. Not really a trick. You can't fly back to Thailand so it seems weird to look for a round-trip ticket? You want to fly from Thailand to where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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