4 hours ago, redwood1 said:

I thought the Australians and New Zealanders were locked up on their prison colonies......I have not heard of any dates where as the prisoners might be released to travel......

all this lip service sprucing the carrot called 'hope' .....it aint gunna happen

38 minutes ago, TommyL727 said:

I will tell you something that the media do not. There is a very specific reason for that. I have family in Sweden (as all Norwegians do lol), and they have first hand knowledge about this. Sweden has had a massive influx of immigrants the last 20 years or so, and especially since 2015. What happened was, that a lot of these got a job in the health care sector, and mostly in old peoples home care facilities. Now, the majority of these people were never met with any demands of any sort, so they did not bother learning the countrys language. They worked, could only understand their home language, or in best case some very basic English. So when corona hit, they had no idea what was happening, and they infected thousands of those old people, before the Swedish Government understood what was happening. They later issued corona material and advice in their native languages, but it was too late.

 

This is the true story of the massive deaths per capita in Sweden, and you will never hear it in main stream media. And im not trying to place blame, just stating facts. It could easily have been us, if we did not have had a stricter immigrant policy, with language demands.

That is not "the true story". It is one theory that has been popularised, but people who actually represent the groups you mention have debunked it. They put more blame on the fact that they live in crowded conditions and found it very difficult to separate young from old, infected from uninfected. And of course there are more issues. 

4 hours ago, redwood1 said:

I thought the Australians and New Zealanders were locked up on their prison colonies......I have not heard of any dates where as the prisoners might be released to travel......

That's correct ... "Good News for Aussies and New Zealanders ..... " ... and Bad News for Thailand ... Aussies are not allowed out of their own Country ... !????????

9 minutes ago, lkv said:

No, the Scandinavians are now booking Cancun.

 

Airlines are adjusting their flight frequency to daily until November to this particular destination and flights are packed.

 

https://www.traveloffpath.com/cancun-has-become-one-of-top-destinations-in-the-world-during-the-pandemic/

This seems to have been happening before covid. Our Norwegian friends haven't been coming for the last four years, instead they've gone to Caribbean or Mediterranean. It was the presence of Russians that turned them, they used to stay at Jomthien which was overrun by the Russians. Tourism to Thailand from Nordics was on the decline already.

4 hours ago, xylophone said:

Yes indeed........although there may be a few who need to get back here for family and business reasons, but apart from that, the days of having to "jump through hoops" to appease ill-thought-through TAT and Immigration regulations have pi$$ed too many off, so not likely to be a rush.

 

Besides that, in Oz and NZ "come the end of the year" it will be summer time so better to stay where they are.

Let’s not forget also there are a lot of people who might have visited but now can’t or won’t cos they didn’t make any money the last 6 months, have lost their jobs already, or are sitting tight and holding on to whatever cash they have until they see what happens.

2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

You're talking about folks who still have a hard time distinguishing between Australia and Austria.....  In the case above, they're probably thinking, ya, we mean, all those cold places!

 

Many years ago I posted a letter from Bangkok to my brother in Australia. When it finally arrived my brother told me it had some European stamp and writing on the envelope...yep, it had landed in Austria where someone with a few more brains had redirected it to Australia.

12 minutes ago, stouricks said:

There's only Denmark missed out then

Yes, we have had a rising number of cases for a week or two. New restrictions should, hopefully, get the numbers down in a couple of weeks.

Pretty much nobody is going to come to Thailand on holiday under those stipulations. 

 

There will be people who usually live here who will use it to get back in, but pretty much zero holiday makers are going to go through that. 

These TAT people are nothing short of a bunch of idiots maybe they should spend 14 days in the low end of the Quarantine government approved accommodations and see how they enjoy it . No one with intelligence is going to pay to be imprisoned for 14 days unless there that desperate to enter Thailand.

Just looked at the infographic produced by the Tourist Office of Confusion. It has 22 steps to follow before you can get released from prison. I doubt if even 22 people will bother reading the infographic. It is extremely difficult to understand. 

This BS is getting boring. Tomorrow something different, so someone can show off, and the day after someone else. Nothing is going to happen. 

4 hours ago, redwood1 said:

I thought the Australians and New Zealanders were locked up on their prison colonies......I have not heard of any dates where as the prisoners might be released to travel......

You are correct, Gulag Australia allows no one to leave, except the well connected of course. There has been no indication this will change in the short term, nor any reason why it even exists.

Dream on TAT. No one's coming up unless they really have to.

That means zero tourists.

When will they get this

Hmmm.... I’m not holding my breath. Who in their right mind would visit a country and bear the cost and aggravation of 2 weeks in quarantine?  It doesn’t make sense, but TIT ?( my bad)

Tracing?

 

I like how they count money ????

How the hell is this going to generate 1.2 billion baht? They say they are limiting it to 300 people per week so 1,200 per month, so that’s 1 million baht each they expect to get from each person arriving here?? Idiots one and all!

4 hours ago, Nout said:

I would. You obviously have never had a full, skilled HE massage. A major sensual delight.

HE massage? I prefer them from the opposite sex myself...

I think they have totally missed the issue here.....it is the quarantine that is the problem, not length of the visa. 

2 minutes ago, Falcon said:

How the hell is this going to generate 1.2 billion baht? They say they are limiting it to 300 people per week so 1,200 per month, so that’s 1 million baht each they expect to get from each person arriving here?? Idiots one and all!

But they're expecting the tourists to stay for at least 90 days each, so there's no need to be so gloomy:) The average per month for the first six-month period would be 3,000 people. So they only have to generate THB 400,000 per month and visitor. Or 13,333 per day and visitor. That's doable. Not likely. But doable. 

5 hours ago, webfact said:

He mentioned Scandinavia and in particular Sweden, Norway and Finland. He also singled out Australians and New Zealanders as being welcome come the end of the year. 

 

He reiterated that the new visa meant people would go through a 14 day quarantine, be subject to tracing, have to have a 72 hour non-Covid certificate and take a direct flight. 

 

It would bring in 1.2 billion baht a month to stimulate the economy, said the media.

I am pissing myself laughing and i am sure the Australians and New Zealand tourists are to , a 5 year old child could come up with better ideas .

5 hours ago, Logosone said:

So Sweden among the most successful countries in containing Covid19, now considered for special visas.

 

No masks, no lockdown. 

 

How did the Swedes do it? Oh that's right, no masks, no lockdown.

Wrong, Sweden was one of the most unsuccessful countries when looking at casualties per capita.

The Thais must be misinformed wanting to let them in. Norway, Denmark and Finland is a different story.

I miss my wife and family .... but be stuck in Thailand 2 weeks extra and not able be my family that would crush me after so long why not test us before flight on arrive 

1 minute ago, Khun Yaaai said:

Wrong, Sweden was one of the most unsuccessful countries when looking at casualties per capita.

The Thais must be misinformed wanting to let them in. Norway, Denmark and Finland is a different story.

If you see this STV offer as a reward to countries for their handling of the pandemic, then of course you shouldn't invite Swedes to Thailand. 

But if you only look at the current situation, i.e. the result of the handling of the pandemic, by all means invite away. 

4 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

I was just thinking the same thing.

 

If someone with serious money got the government on board and said oi, here is a great waterfront hotel that is doing no business, I will take over it with a years lease, all tourists will stay in the hotel grounds with security at front and back, we will cater for all of their needs, the hotel has a swimming pool, golf course, we will provide the caddies/girls for the whole 18 hole course so to speak, massages with happy endings, room service with, food, alcohol, etc etc, it could be a deal maker for those not looking at it as 14 days of quarantine, but 14 days of holiday heaven that caters for their every need.

 

I would be in and I live here ????

 

Your talking and thinking absolute rubbish. It would never happen . The Generals have an agenda to clean up Thailand. That means getting rid of the bars which supply prostitutes etc. Whether it be for Tourists or Expats  

https://thethaiger.com/news/national/special-tourist-visa-now-officials-want-you-to-quarantine-in-your-home-country-before-coming-to-thailand

1 hour ago, DrTuner said:

Should have written "for a holiday", which is what the thread is about, tourists.

Indeed it is but don't assume for one minute that a genuine Chinese 'tourist' who has already bought a condo in Thailand won't be agree to do 14-days SQ/ASQ just so he can have a long, long vacation.

5 hours ago, Sharp said:

Covid-19 insurance and tracking app people would probably accept but 2 weeks quarantine that's a tricky sell to say the least!!

Plus the needless scaremongering needs to stop from all MSM and alike. 

And many are not even aware of the WORST issue surrounding the quarantine...

 

Imagine testing positive, and having NO symptoms AT ALL..

yet being dragged away by stooges, put in a hospital for X weeks,

and extorted for ???k baht.

 

You will quickly go from being the elite, valued tourist you envisioned, to virtually a prisoner to be milked.

no thanks!!

 

Just now, pookondee said:

And many are not even aware of the WORST issue surrounding the quarantine...

 

Imagine testing positive, and having NO symptoms AT ALL..

yet being dragged away by stooges, put in a hospital for X weeks,

and extorted for ???k baht.

 

You will quickly go from being the elite, valued tourist you envisioned, to virtually a prisoner to be milked.

no thanks!!

 

This will happen if you have had Covid and have antibodies or any dead virus particles floating around. Thailand cannot distinguish between them 

@TAT - come back to reality

No genuine tourist will jump through your idiotic and convoluted hoops.

Offer to subsidize at least 50% of the hotel costs during the 15-day quarantine for all tourists,

as a start.

 

 

1 hour ago, TurkAussie said:

I think they mean you have to do a 14 day quarantine in your own country get a 72 hour Covid free certificate from your country then catch a non stop flight into Thailand, still a load of <deleted>, I live in lockdown Melbourne we have so many people here who are scared out of their minds and hang off every bit of <deleted> our Premiere feeds them! He doesn’t want a quick end he wants to drag it out so long that when he mandates the vaccine it goes quicker than the toilet paper did! 

No the 14 days quarantine is when you get here (Thailand) and you will have to pay for it. The rest is correct. Have a friend who lives in Sydney he cant leave to get back. He tells me there's no flights anyway???