4 hours ago, Nout said:

Disgraceful

Trump?

20 minutes ago, Nout said:

Hilary Clinton has told Biden to ignore the election results if he loses and never cede to Trump. But that's ok I guess.

My Aunt Marge has opinions too but she isn't Joe Biden.

Most of what Hillary says make sense but I agree that one sentence is not good. You have to pick out one sentence from Hillary, possibly out of context as it is not fully explained,  as against many clear direct statements from Trump.

I was a Hillary fan. Still don't get why Americans hated her.

There is a difference though between someone  outside the current process making a one off comment and the president himself continually saying it. Joe Biden is the leader. Compare the leaders. 

I must say the latest Fox News polls are looking good for Biden. Here's hoping.

Edited September 25, 20205 yr by Fat is a type of crazy

7 minutes ago, poskat said:

Trump will have the last laugh when his conservative nominee gets seated on the court.

Trump can have his nominee.  It's not going to help him get reelected.  The Dems will win the WH and Senate. 

30 minutes ago, Damual Travesty said:

For someone who is not saying that Trump is Hitler

Agree that Trump is no Hilter of 1944 but he does share some unnerving similarities. Like Hilter, he is malignant narcissist and attracted to authoritarianism. His narrative of inner cities beset by fear and violent crimes and he has the power to make his dark vision real by sending federal agents to snatch people from the streets; authoritarian stance and abduction are what we see in dictatorship. He will go to any length to maintain grip on power like asking Ukraine and China to help his election and his refusal to accept a peaceful transfer of power are very scary similarities to Hilter. What you think.

1 hour ago, bannork said:

I think it just astounds so many foreigners that you have such a deplorable, vain, narcissistic, ignorant,

serial liar as a president.

We have a buffoon in the UK too, bumbling u-turn Johnson, but he can't hold a candle to the crass Trump.

Honestly, I am more concerned with the actual policy that develops from my own Country and to lessor degree that of the UK then I am of personality. Action is what concerns me, as defined by result, which comes from policy decisions that come from the administration. Nothing else really concerns me short of criminal behaviour and I do not see that from Trump despite all the claims otherwise that come from the left.

 

Likewise I see no criminal behaviour to my knowledge anyway from Boris Johnson. Further even if I thought Boris Johnson was a big idiot, I would not spend my time here posting that he is a big idiot because - what kind of reason would I have to do such a thing? Unless I detested Boris Johnson because I don't know maybe if I hated English people in general, or he had some sort of obscure policy that affected my family somehow. I mean it would be rather silly of me to spend my time denigrating Boris Johnson. I would have to be a moron to spend all my time creating posts about every word out of Boris Johnson's mouth or his hairstyle or what he eats, etc or the mechanics of English Parliamentary Government, or something said in Question time. Seriously, I would have to be a complete lunatic to obsess about a foreign leader who has pretty much nothing to do with me.

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clarity

7 minutes ago, Damual Travesty said:

12 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Hilary is not in any position of power and has no say. What she says is not relevant.

Some would argue, perhaps not you, that Hillary Clinton is someone who has tremendous clout within the Democrat party, and that when she speaks it becomes national news. Again, maybe not you.

Exactly.  Why else would the interview air?

6 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

18 minutes ago, Nout said:

Hilary Clinton has told Biden to ignore the election results if he loses and never cede to Trump. But that's ok I guess.

My Aunt Marge has opinions too but she isn't Joe Biden.

Most of what Hillary says make sense but I agree that sentence is not good. I was a Hillary fan. Still don't get why Americans hated her.

But as I said there is a difference between someone  outside the current process making a one off comment and the president himself continually saying it. Joe Biden is the leader. Compare the leaders. 

I must say the latest Fox News polls are looking good for Biden. Here's hoping.

Then try to explain why Biden hired 600 lawyers.  Not words but action, which speaks louder than words.

3 minutes ago, Damual Travesty said:

Some would argue, perhaps not you, that Hillary Clinton is someone who has tremendous clout within the Democrat party, and that when she speaks it becomes national news. Again, maybe not you.

Its irrelevant. Biden is the candidate and has said nothing. At the opposite end of the spectrum you have trump.

4 hours ago, PatOngo said:

Yes, you are right, I feel the same way about Trump's handling of the corona virus! Absolutely disgraceful!

Trump doesn't know a virus from a grain of salt. He is being advised by 'big pharma science'. In his second term he will 'out' Fauci for the crook he is.

 

He will turn out to be a fine POTUS.

1 minute ago, Sujo said:

Its irrelevant. Biden is the candidate and has said nothing. At the opposite end of the spectrum you have trump.

 

1 minute ago, Tippaporn said:

Then try to explain why Biden hired 600 lawyers.  Not words but action, which speaks louder than words.

 

1 minute ago, Tippaporn said:

Then try to explain why Biden hired 600 lawyers.  Not words but action, which speaks louder than words.

If trump is acting within the law then those lawyers are not needed.

6 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Exactly.  Why else would the interview air?

Because she was formerly sec of state.

1 minute ago, Sujo said:

4 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Then try to explain why Biden hired 600 lawyers.  Not words but action, which speaks louder than words.

If trump is acting within the law then those lawyers are not needed.

Then where is the proof that Trump is stealing the election?  If there's no evidence then why hire 600 lawyers?  Think.

2 minutes ago, Sujo said:

10 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Exactly.  Why else would the interview air?

Because she was formerly sec of state.

Is that the real and only reason?  Is it?

The behavior described in the OP is the only thing the anti-Trump crowd has.  They can't beat him on the issues, so this is what they do. 

9 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Then try to explain why Biden hired 600 lawyers.  Not words but action, which speaks louder than words.

 

I had to look that up.  Rather lawyers fight out constitutional and legal matters rather than someone holding on to power just because he wants to. This may shock you but sometimes Trump isn't trustworthy. 

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4 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Because she was formerly sec of state.

She was a poor SofSt.

 

Just wait until her 35k missing emails surface in Trump's second term.

2 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Agree that Trump is no Hilter of 1944 but he does share some unnerving similarities. Like Hilter, he is malignant narcissist and attracted to authoritarianism. His narrative of inner cities beset by fear and violent crimes and he has the power to make his dark vision real by sending federal agents to snatch people from the streets; authoritarian stance and abduction are what we see in dictatorship. He will go to any length to maintain grip on power like asking Ukraine and China to help his election and his refusal to accept a peaceful transfer of power are very scary similarities to Hilter. What you think.

Well, on the other hand, I would bet that every leader in an authoritarian environment ie a corporation or the military, has some authoritarian in him. And Hitler was not an authoritarian he was a totalitarian and there is a clear difference. Likewise America's cities are in reality beset by fear and violent crimes. This is a reality. A truth.

 

As for sending Federal agents to snatch people from the streets, I would rather make comparisons to a political party which seems to have a violent extremist arm to it - one which lights cities on fire. Sort of like some totalitarian parties have all had. Or even parties which have a armed paramilitary wing which they disassociate from themselves but also refuse to condemn the violent actions of. Sort of like Sinn Fein in the era of Northern Ireland prior to the peace. Yes, rather then look at the DOJ simply using tools of law enforcement to stop lawlessness.

 

Trump certainly has not given himself any dictatorial powers. Nor has he indicated he wishes to remain President for life, or such nonsense. He does not hate Jews, so I don't see any comparison to Hitler there. In all I think your comparisons to Hitler are a bit fragile in having a basis in truth of historical fact and rather heavy on attempt to use everyday comparison to achieve a sense of dread which bears no reflection on the reality of who is Donald Trump. Sort of like saying that Donald Trump eats Breakfast and so did Adolf Hitler, therefore there are comparisons between the two - they both liked eggs for breakfast perhaps.

 

Trump is not going to refuse to transfer power because it is not something he has the power to do. IF in the horrible event that both sides cannot agree on a clear winner it will go to the courts to decide and ultimately to the Supreme Court of the USA. Americans understand the system.  And if that were to happen that would mean that it will be the Court that makes a decision. At that point the victor - whomever that may be - will be President of the United States. Period - End of story.

21 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

My Aunt Marge has opinions too but she isn't Joe Biden.

Most of what Hillary says make sense but I agree that one sentence is not good. You have to pick out one sentence from Hillary, possibly out of context as it is not fully explained,  as against many clear direct statements from Trump.

I was a Hillary fan. Still don't get why Americans hated her.

There is a difference though between someone  outside the current process making a one off comment and the president himself continually saying it. Joe Biden is the leader. Compare the leaders. 

I must say the latest Fox News polls are looking good for Biden. Here's hoping.

Where is your Aunt Marge from?

11 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Then where is the proof that Trump is stealing the election?  If there's no evidence then why hire 600 lawyers?  Think.

Thats why he hired them, to make sure he doesnt.

11 minutes ago, Kelsall said:

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Its irrelevant. Biden is the candidate and has said nothing. At the opposite end of the spectrum you have trump.

Well you got the last part right.

10 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Is that the real and only reason?  Is it?

Former first lady if you prefer. Regardless she holds no position and does not direct policy.

17 minutes ago, owl sees all said:

Trump doesn't know a virus from a grain of salt. He is being advised by 'big pharma science'. In his second term he will 'out' Fauci for the crook he is.

 

He will turn out to be a fine POTUS.

That's a joke......right? I don't think Trump knows his @$$ from his elbow!

1 minute ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

What issues? Like climate change and covid and the subsequent deaths and the effect on the economy. Is not concerning that a leader says he may not accept the outcome of the election.  

I am not sure if you are an American or not therefore I am not sure of the specifics of how you think Donald Trump affects you on Covid. Are you saying that Donald Trump is responsible for the global spread of COVID? Donald Trump clearly is aware that an attempt is going to be made to steal the election by the left, as they have already indicated violence is coming, and have already begun performing acts of violence in America's cities as well as begun pressing for a changing of the norms of American voting. Nor have the Democrats accepted the results of the 2016 election.

 

As for climate change. You would have to be more specific. The Paris accords deal with giving economic concessions to Countries, and perhaps that money that would leave the USA could be better spent. There is also tremendous debate about the degree of climate change that is taking place, especially with the models. Which seem to be getting more off as we speak. I stopped worrying about climate change when I stopped believing the frantic move on dot org emails and instead began to do my own research. I am not worried, and to the extent that I am, my concern is more with mitigating the results of any climate change and preparing to face those changes, then with attempting to prevent their occurrence. I do not believe the Chinese Government statements on Climate mitigation, nor do I trust a nation which has a President for life. I believe it was a good idea for the USA to withdraw from the Paris Accord. I believe a strong economically sound and defended USA is our best defence against any change of climate. Again, I doubt strongly any suggestion that we are heading to our deaths inside the next 12 years. This is hysterical nonsense.

8 minutes ago, PatOngo said:

That's a joke......right? I don't think Trump knows his @$$ from his elbow!

Another simple insult post against the President of the USA which really adds to the flavour of this board and must do wonders to increase usage.

11 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Former first lady if you prefer. Regardless she holds no position and does not direct policy.

Neither does Joe Biden, or the head of the DNC, but they likewise are pretty important with regard to what they have to say at the moment with regard to Democrat point of view. And CNN and MSNBC as well of course.

1 minute ago, Damual Travesty said:

I am not sure if you are an American or not therefore I am not sure of the specifics of how you think Donald Trump affects you on Covid. Are you saying that Donald Trump is responsible for the global spread of COVID? Donald Trump clearly is aware that an attempt is going to be made to steal the election by the left, as they have already indicated violence is coming, and have already begun performing acts of violence in America's cities as well as begun pressing for a changing of the norms of American voting. Nor have the Democrats accepted the results of the 2016 election.

 

As for climate change. You would have to be more specific. The Paris accords deal with giving economic concessions to Countries, and perhaps that money that would leave the USA could be better spent. There is also tremendous debate about the degree of climate change that is taking place, especially with the models. Which seem to be getting more off as we speak. I stopped worrying about climate change when I stopped believing the frantic move on dot org emails and instead began to do my own research. I am not worried, and to the extent that I am, my concern is more with mitigating the results of any climate change and preparing to face those changes, then with attempting to prevent their occurrence. I do not believe the Chinese Government statements on Climate mitigation, nor do I trust a nation which has a President for life. I believe it was a good idea for the USA to withdraw from the Paris Accord. I believe a strong economically sound and defended USA is our best defence against any change of climate. Again, I doubt strongly any suggestion that we are heading to our deaths inside the next 12 years. This is hysterical nonsense.

It would take too long to go through all these points. I am from Australia.

On Covid it is absolutely China's fault and Trump did OK for a month or so. But then he consistently downplayed it, saying it would go away, hindering the CDC. To this day he is holding dangerous rallies with huge crowds close together not wearing masks. Breathtakingly irresponsible.

On climate change I get that it is hard to find a perfect solution but his view is do nothing or worse ramp up CO2 production. He's comment last week that the world will just get cooler, like the Coronavirus will just go away, is sad and predictable. 

10 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

13 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Then where is the proof that Trump is stealing the election?  If there's no evidence then why hire 600 lawyers?  Think.

I had to look that up.  Rather lawyers fight out constitutional and legal matters rather than someone holding on to power just because he wants to. This may shock you but sometimes Trump isn't trustworthy. 

I had provided a suitable link.

 

Think political campaign strategies.  Every campaign has them.  In the event of losing the election what are your options?  Does a possibility exist for altering true election results?  What might those possibilities be?  Who are your allies?  MSM and social media, certainly.  How do employ them?

 

I read an interesting piece which describes one such strategy, which I'll condense.

 

Big Tech, currently unrestrained in suppressing information and silencing opposition voices, works with other organizations such as the Transition Integrity Project (a misnomer), purges any content questioning the project's tactics or potential fraud with mail-in ballots.  Extend election day into January under the pretense of "counting every vote" until enough votes are had to declare Biden the winner.  In the meanwhile, MSM and Big Tech rig content in the Dems favour while simultaneously suppressing opposition content.

 

I'm not saying this is what the Dem's actual strategy is.  What I am saying is that this is what I believe their strategy to be.

 

Hence the 600 lawyers as you'll need them to contest any irregularities and the validity of certain mail-in ballots for any number of reasons.

More hysterical behaviour from "democrat's" that can't respect the result of a democratic general election. Sore loser's but makes great social media content.