Ha, ha, ha, ha!

 

Lets me get this right, in Thailand a civil servant with no medical background rewrites covid 19 quarantine regime then spouts off to the press, <deleted>......!

 

Anywhere other than Lieland he would be held to account here he will probably be promoted to Ai Anutin's inner circle, come to think of it he's probably less of a liability but the bar is set pretty <deleted>in low....

1 hour ago, JusticeGB said:

I once asked a lawyer why he brought so many files to a meeting on quite a simple case. He said he could charge more if it appeared that he had done a lot of work on it. The Minister of Tourism seems to think that a new plan a day shows that he is effective at his job.

Yes, paperwork can be seen. A clear sign that a lot of work has, or hasn't been done. Can't just turn up with a laptop. Not enough evidence for visceral eyes; I mean, how are you supposed to measure the amount of work completed?

 

I've had a few Thai friends send me pictures on line of their workload when they've told me they're busy. The common theme is a picture with a computer screen with a spreadsheet on it and lots of paperwork strewn across their desk. You can't argue with that. 

Oh I see, it makes sense now! The action of spending money in Thailand - in some mystical, magical way - changes science as we know it. The virus has decided to comply to such measures, and now the incubation period has been shortened. 

Ah the desperation grows stronger now . If they haven’t opened the country up by late November early December to tourists without ripping them off to get there and locking them up , then there will be a long way back to even some form of normal tourism when they decide it’s ok to let tourists arrive ! 
Instead of sitting making up insane ideas daily these people need to take a random trip without telling anyone and go visit Pattaya , Phuket and samui and they will see the impact of their daily visa scheme nonsense !

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Three hundred a week is clearly not enough to make a big difference nationwide

Ummm, it's not enough to make ANY difference at all

1 hour ago, androokery said:

That’s when they do the second test. There are no daily tests in quarantine. They find cases at the beginning or end of quarantine. 

Actually the third test.

next week it will be zero quarantine 

4 hours ago, webfact said:

The media made absolutely no attempt to explain where all these people would come from, notes Thaivisa, as online ridicule continued to flood forums bearing in mind the huge expense and onerous paperwork needed to visit Thailand under the STV plan

Pipat needs to be taken to one side and asked to think before he speaks, it's becoming embarrassing.

The problem ist that they prioritize the tourists to stay in the expensive hotel first after landing.

If they really need 2 tests why don't just let tourists make test 2 times in their origin country, so if one of the tests results positive, than just prohibited them to boarding and quarantine should be in the home country.

 

Tourist could make covig test 14 days before boarding and 72 hours before boarding. That's all. Why do they change so many visa rule like a ping pong, angency, hotel list, bla bla bla... and it took so much time and cost.

Edited September 25, 20205 yr by alianware

4 hours ago, Eibot said:

Why don't you let tourist already here be able to buy an extension inside the country?

 

Furthermore what's the point of quarantine if you do it for 7 days. We already know due the the incubation time you need at least 14 days. You might aswell not quarantine since it will spread guaranteed within a 7 day window. 

You're confusing the incubation period (the time between exposure and the onset of symptoms) with how long you have to wait to ensure the validity of the test (which is much shorter). Taiwan has a very effective 7 day quarantine so there's no reason Thailand couldn't successfully do the same.

Edited September 25, 20205 yr by edwardandtubs

8 minutes ago, alianware said:

The problem ist that they prioritize the tourists to stay in the expensive hotel first after landing.

If they really need 2 tests why don't just let tourists make test 2 times in their origin country, so if one of the tests results positive, than just prohibited them to boarding and quarantine should be in the home country.

 

Tourist could make covig test 14 days before boarding and 72 hours before boarding. That's all. Why do they change so many visa rule like a ping pong, angency, hotel list, bla bla bla... and it took so much time and cost.

There you go using that new fandangled critical thinking but you've missed the point, if they are at home there is no opportunity to fleece them

 

As Confusicus once said 'to think like TaT, first must remove brain'

 

*Just to be clear for the hard of thinking he never really said that but I reckon he should have!!

4 hours ago, Eibot said:

Furthermore what's the point of quarantine if you do it for 7 days. We already know due the the incubation time you need at least 14 days. You might aswell not quarantine since it will spread guaranteed within a 7 day window. 

2 hours ago, JTXR said:

Reduce the quarantine from 14 to 7 days?  So, the basic biology of the virus has changed, then? 

 

No, it's what doctors thought but now that they know the virus better they have say that 7 days was enough for a Covid-19 quarantaine.

Thailand is certainly not the only country to reduce from 14 to 7. (Mine, France, already reduced it to 7 too), and soon all will go to 7 days only.

2 hours ago, YetAnother said:

Single digit IQ

Where are you placing the decimal point? ????

What science backs a 7-day quarantine? 

Novel Coronathianess is not a known strain.

I don't necessarily think that this plan will materialize, but assuming that it will, here's my prediction:

 

Once the first tourist who is  quarantined for only 7 instead of 14 days infects a dear precious Thai, there will be PANIC and finger pointing and it will all end in tears.

The million dollar work permit option sounds better....and that is a laugh a minute

well its obviously not starting on the 1st of october, they havent even said what countries are allowed in yet as far i know.   all the people on here saying no one will go that's not quite true there is a demand for it, not massive demand but when they only taking 300 a day then there is definitely demand for that amount. they will quite easily fill that.

Edited September 25, 20205 yr by paulikens

1 hour ago, ronaldo0 said:

Ah the desperation grows stronger now . If they haven’t opened the country up by late November early December to tourists without ripping them off to get there and locking them up , then there will be a long way back to even some form of normal tourism when they decide it’s ok to let tourists arrive ! 
Instead of sitting making up insane ideas daily these people need to take a random trip without telling anyone and go visit Pattaya , Phuket and samui and they will see the impact of their daily visa scheme nonsense !

ronaldo0, yes, now we're talking about November. But, can they really walk back from their October folly in a month ? Retrieving anything of this high season depends on airlines getting clearance to resume schedules and the rush to get bookings. Surely, they have thrown it all away now.

Well 7 days is better than 14 days, but it's still too long. Time is running out to get out of this worldwide mess.

They have daily reports about number of people with Covid detected upon coming to Thailand. There are occasional reports of someone testing positive to Covid after the one week check. They probably got it coming over on the plane. But I have never seen any report of someone who tested negative on arrival, negative after one week, but then positive the day before their scheduled departure.

i’ve also heard that from mild cases, the general recovery time is less than two weeks.

It may take up to two weeks for symptoms to develop, but a test should be able to detect it a lot quicker

Thainess will defy science, as usual

1 week 3-star hotel for 5000 THB max quarantine is ok.

 

Usually a negative Covid-19 test is enough

without the quarantine BS.

 

 

More and more I am convinced that Thais life in a different universe from normal people. Why do they not realise that people do not spend a lot of money flying to a country to spend 14 days, or even seven, in quarantine. If they read overseas media they would see that thousands flock to the airports to escape that very thing when restrictions are being placed on a country. Quarantine is the very last thing they want, let alone pay handsomely for the privilege. And as others have said, what would be the point of only seven days in quarantine anyway, when the virus can take 14 days to appear.

 

Anyway, the limited tourist arrivals scheme was killed stone dead as soon as they insisted that only charter flights can be used. Or maybe that was their way of saying only those from China will be welcome, as it is impractical for a few dozen people from a few dozen other countries to arrange a charter flight together. Even if they wanted to. Which they won't.

44 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

What science backs a 7-day quarantine? 

Novel Coronathianess is not a known strain.

At least some European countries accept even people from so called 'countries at risk' to enter, if they keep themselves under quarantine at home for a few days only, till their mandatory test shows a negative result.

 

This is definitely the case in Germany now. Coming from a country not on the list, no quarantine is necessary. Needless to say that I trust the German specialists and politicians in this balanced approach way more than I trust their Thai counterparts. 

 

This is a sensible and holistic approach, balancing the health risks on the one side and the economic impact and the impact on the freedom of the people on the other side.

 

So, a mandatory 14 days quarantine, even theoretically useful, does not make so much sense if the total risk is as low as it is currently with the Coronavirus, and if one takes the negative implications of that also into account.

 

Thailand should follow such a balanced approach. Mandatory negative tests, but quarantine only till the test result is there.

 

Edited September 25, 20205 yr by Flying Saucage

if only an insurance that covers THE REST OF THE WORLD, could be used and not the forced 100k USD for thailand only, you know, for your 100.000 baht PARACETAMOL

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Three hundred a week is clearly not enough to make a big difference nationwide

That has got to be the understatement of the century! 

4 hours ago, pkrv said:

One again critical thinking, consistency, and realism seems to have passed by those in power here ????

As well as those outsiders who think they know best, yet obviously haven't a clue. 

Realistically unlikely to be any foreign tourist arrivals this year. Would not like to be first foreigner to test positive for CV after entering Thailand especially if he is likely to have come into contact with general pooulation.

4 hours ago, AndrewMciver said:

What about all those that are being caught positive at day 13 

How many people has this happened too, any source?

2 hours ago, androokery said:

That’s when they do the second test. There are no daily tests in quarantine. They find cases at the beginning or end of quarantine. 

They don't test at the beginning, it's pointless, 1st test is day 5 or 6.