34 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

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All this over access to some fish? An industry which is insignificant to both the UK and EU's GDP.

But of course it has become a totemic issue for Brexiteers because of buzzwords like sovereignty.

 

 

It's actually more of an issue for Macron and the Dutch really. Just simply "Sorry, it's a No from me." from the UK.

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1339224/Brexit-news-eu-no-deal-fishing-Emmanuel-macron-uk-waters-france-economy.

11 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Whataboutary.

 

It’s all you’ve got.

what about the 25,000 dead iraqui civilians?fake news perhaps after all no member of the labour party could do such a thing,your scorn and

contempt of this subject speaks volumes.

36 minutes ago, david555 said:

EU threat to cut off City unless it gets answers over regulation after Brexit 
Candidate to be the EU's financial services commissioner demands to know how far UK will split from Brussels's rules and regulations 

By James Crisp, Brussels Correspondent 
2 October 2020 • 11:41am 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2020/10/02/eu-threat-cut-city-unless-gets-answers-regulation-brexit/

Candidate to be the EU's financial services commissioner demands to know how far UK will split from Brussels's rules and regulations 

Brussels will refuse the City of London access to the EU’s market from next year unless the UK sets out its plans to diverge from the bloc’s financial rules. 

Mairead McGuinness, an Irish centre-Right MEP, is the candidate to be the EU’s financial services commissioner. If approved by the European Parliament, which is expected, she will be the City’s gatekeeper to the Single Market. The Fine Gael politician and former member of the parliament’s Brexit Steering Group, told MEPs at a hearing into her candidacy that Brussels needed answers from the UK. 

 

Short memories eh?

 

Ms Mairead McGuinness might recall that the UK lent Ireland some 3.25 billion quid when their economy crashed in 2010. British banks also propped up Ulsterbank, the countries third biggest, to the tune of some 10 billion or so. If Ulsterbank had gone under then it would have been a mortal blow to an already badly injured economy.

15 minutes ago, Loiner said:

It's actually more of an issue for Macron and the Dutch really. Just simply "Sorry, it's a No from me." from the UK.

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1339224/Brexit-news-eu-no-deal-fishing-Emmanuel-macron-uk-waters-france-economy.

Yes I'm sure the EU takes the views of a local French mayor as gospel while negotiating with the UK.

Did the express also interview the school janitor?

9 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

Short memories eh?

 

Ms Mairead McGuinness might recall that the UK lent Ireland some 3.25 billion quid when their economy crashed in 2010. British banks also propped up Ulsterbank, the countries third biggest, to the tune of some 10 billion or so. If Ulsterbank had gone under then it would have been a mortal blow to an already badly injured economy.

What has that to do with present decision to be made ?….. must whole E.U financial system go on stop at U.K.'s wish, she is working now for E.U.  !!

 " no  reason to pity the City " …(rhymes..????)

 

BTW she is only asking needed answers..... only "cut of " if needed depending the "escalations" in wait...????

Edited October 2, 20205 yr by david555

Martin Howe QC and Clive Thorne, chairman and vice chairman of lawyers for Britain are quoted as saying "After we ceased to be an EU member in February, the European Court of Justice became an entirely foreign court which owes its allegiance wholly to the EU, and none whatsoever to the UK. There is no actual means by which an ECJ judgement can be enforced againgst a sovereign state which defies it."

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

 

All this over access to some fish? An industry which is insignificant to both the UK and EU's GDP.

But of course it has become a totemic issue for Brexiteers because of buzzwords like sovereignty.

 

 

27 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Yes I'm sure the EU takes the views of a local French mayor as gospel while negotiating with the UK.

Did the express also interview the school janitor?

So why hasn't Macron or Barnier told Frost "OK you can keep your fish, they are insignificant to our GDP anyway. Forget the mayor and lets negotiate something important"? 

7 minutes ago, vogie said:

Martin Howe QC and Clive Thorne, chairman and vice chairman of lawyers for Britain are quoted as saying "After we ceased to be an EU member in February, the European Court of Justice became an entirely foreign court which owes its allegiance wholly to the EU, and none whatsoever to the UK. There is no actual means by which an ECJ judgement can be enforced againgst a sovereign state which defies it."

O.K send them later to ECJ ….. so we €'s make a very good chance...., reading their "excellent defense line "....????????

Edited October 2, 20205 yr by david555

 

1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said:

 

If Ulsterbank had gone under then it would have been a mortal blow to an already badly injured economy.

Project Fear ???? 

57 minutes ago, vogie said:

Martin Howe QC and Clive Thorne, chairman and vice chairman of lawyers for Britain are quoted as saying "After we ceased to be an EU member in February, the European Court of Justice became an entirely foreign court which owes its allegiance wholly to the EU, and none whatsoever to the UK.

4 more years. They haven’t read what the UK signed up for. 
 

57 minutes ago, vogie said:

There is no actual means by which an ECJ judgement can be enforced againgst a sovereign state which defies it."

Sanctions sound like an actual mean. 

4 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

4 more years. They haven’t read what the UK signed up for. 
 

Sanctions sound like an actual mean. 

I never doubted that you would know more than our top lawyers, is your name Gerry Mason? ????????????

Edited October 2, 20205 yr by vogie

1 minute ago, vogie said:

I never doubted that you would know more than our top lawyers, is your name Gerry Mason? ????????????

Your “top lawyers” ???? 

Just now, vogie said:

I never doubted that you would know more than our top lawyers, is your name Gerry Mason? ????????????

When Geoffrey Cox would say same I would be starting worrying a little bit ….but not those who probably hustling for a good earner…..lawyers….you know they say what you like to hear …… just as Pattaya bargirls????

3 minutes ago, david555 said:

When Geoffrey Cox would say same I would be starting worrying a little bit ….but not those who probably hustling for a good earner…..lawyers….you know they say what you like to hear …… just as Pattaya bargirls????

Let's put it this way, if you were Spassky and I was Fischer, I would be knocking your king over and declaring 'Check Mate'

1 hour ago, vogie said:

Martin Howe QC and Clive Thorne, chairman and vice chairman of lawyers for Britain are quoted as saying "After we ceased to be an EU member in February, the European Court of Justice became an entirely foreign court which owes its allegiance wholly to the EU, and none whatsoever to the UK. There is no actual means by which an ECJ judgement can be enforced againgst a sovereign state which defies it."

That may or may not be correct, but it does nothing to protect the UK's international standing and the perception of its trustworthiness. 

32 minutes ago, vogie said:

Let's put it this way, if you were Spassky and I was Fischer, I would be knocking your king over and declaring 'Check Mate'

NO.....! as I would use the English Brexiteers trick..... by "accident" bumping the chessboard of table , similar to breaking a treaty by a dodgy law ????????????the new British standard of honesty , reputation ….who cares as a Brit  from now on...

Edited October 2, 20205 yr by david555

1 minute ago, RuamRudy said:

That may or may not be correct, but it does nothing to protect the UK's international standing and the perception of its trustworthiness. 

Country first, our laws first every time. It must be very sad that some Brits on here might not see a foreign power sue our country, that's all it boils down to RR.

Just now, vogie said:

Country first, our laws first every time. It must be very sad that some Brits on here might not see a foreign power sue our country, that's all it boils down to RR.

Why would even now E.U. would  agree whatever with U.K. as the next day /week / month  you would not respect it anymore ….?

 

Oh maybe a deposit guarantee would be the solution...????

7 hours ago, sawadee1947 said:

Another stupid comment. 

There are rules for an exit. Your membership ends at the end of this year. Up to the 31. 12. You have to follow EU regulations. 

It doesn't matter if you don't like it. 

Correction, our membership ended 31st Jan 2020 

 (Same same ...even not different as last week , WTO it's gone be ????......)

 

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-pm-to-hold-talks-with-eu-boss-after-legal-action-launched-12087510

Breaking 

Brexit: 'Persistent' differences remain says EU as UK trade talks deadline looms 
It comes as Boris Johnson and the head of the EU Commission prepare to "take stock" in a call this weekend.

 

Aubrey Allegretti 
Political reporter @breeallegretti
Friday 2 October 2020 15:50, UK

 

      

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-pm-to-hold-talks-with-eu-boss-after-legal-action-launched-12087510

Breaking 
 

Aubrey Allegretti 
Political reporter @breeallegretti
Friday 2 October 2020 15:50, UK

 

Big differences remain in post-Brexit trade talks with the UK, Brussels' chief negotiator has said. As the deadline for cutting an agreement looms, Michel Barnier welcomed some "positive new developments" following this week's negotiations in London.

 

But he warned there had been a "lack of progress" on issues like climate change commitments and "persistent, serious divergences on matters of major importance for the EU".

"We will continue to maintain a calm and respectful attitude, and we will remain united and determined until the end of these negotiations," Mr Barnier added in a statement released on Friday.

 

Edited October 2, 20205 yr by david555

9 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

That may or may not be correct, but it does nothing to protect the UK's international standing and the perception of its trustworthiness. 

Talking of trustworthiness, do you really trust the SNP to run an independent Scotland? I see another one of their MPs is feeling the long arm of the law. This one using public transport after a positive Covid test, putting lives at risk. Unbelievable! 

 

SNP MP Margaret Ferrier suspended for taking train after positive Covid test

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/01/snp-mp-margaret-ferrier-took-train-after-positive-covid-test

5 hours ago, david555 said:

Why would even now E.U. would  agree whatever with U.K. as the next day /week / month  you would not respect it anymore ….?

 

Oh maybe a deposit guarantee would be the solution...????

An hostage? ????

3 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

Talking of trustworthiness, do you really trust the SNP to run an independent Scotland? I see another one of their MPs is feeling the long arm of the law. This one using public transport after a positive Covid test, putting lives at risk. Unbelievable! 

 

SNP MP Margaret Ferrier suspended for taking train after positive Covid test

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/01/snp-mp-margaret-ferrier-took-train-after-positive-covid-test

Yes the Cummings breach of socialising & quarantine "inspired " many .....but his action to resign after was a real example .....????  ????????????????????

He was a real example as a Conservative mercenary ????

 

 

 

 

26 minutes ago, david555 said:

Yes the Cummings breach of socialising & quarantine "inspired " many .....but his action to resign after was a real example .....????  ????????????????????

He was a real example as a Conservative mercenary ????

 

 

 

 

You think SNP MPs are inspired by Tory advisors? Don't tell the Scots Indys that..

 

Besides, the SNP MP had a positive test result and then travelled on public transport. That's a whole new level of rule breaking! 

2 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

You think SNP MPs are inspired by Tory advisors? Don't tell the Scots Indys that..

 

Besides, the SNP MP had a positive test result and then travelled on public transport. That's a whole new level of rule breaking! 

OH no doubt she is at fault ....only bringing Cummings doing in remembrance as Boris did not ask for his resignation .... while  snp boss ask for this ones resignation ...

 

Just pointing out same law breaking ...but different handling by the ruling Conservatives that time ...

 

You can not read sarcasme .?..or just blind sight it because it must be wiped under the Conservatives carpet ....????

Different handling ,different party ....????

The EU has hundreds of these cases against IT'S OWN member states. They take years to settle. 

 

There's really not much to see here except Remainer tears and dummies being spat across the room.

 

In other news, we offered them a 3 year extension on fishing and they rejected it so No Deal is looking more likely. YEEHAAAW.

 

 

Edited October 3, 20205 yr by JonnyF

18 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

The EU has hundreds of these cases against IT'S OWN member states. They take years to settle. 
 

On average they take 35 months. That’s well within the 4 more years that the UK has signed up for the ECJ. And it’s enough time for a decent government being elected in the UK who would settle for half the fines ???? 

 

17 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

That may or may not be correct, but it does nothing to protect the UK's international standing and the perception of its trustworthiness. 

Why are you and the others Scots here worried about its standing and reputation, who constantly put the UK down and want to be separated from a union of well over 400 years old to one with the EU that is in its infancy.

 

I find it touching that you care for the UK for once or is it really that you jump on any bandwagon that you can "Bash the UK' at any opportunity.

 

 

 

Edited October 3, 20205 yr by Laughing Gravy

7 hours ago, david555 said:

OH no doubt she is at fault ....only bringing Cummings doing in remembrance as Boris did not ask for his resignation .... while  snp boss ask for this ones resignation ...

 

Just pointing out same law breaking ...but different handling by the ruling Conservatives that time ...

 

You can not read sarcasme .?..or just blind sight it because it must be wiped under the Conservatives carpet ....????

Different handling ,different party ....????

Travelling on public transport whilst knowingly carrying / spreading the virus is much more serious. I'm sure you you this. 

28 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

Travelling on public transport whilst knowingly carrying / spreading the virus is much more serious. I'm sure you you this. 

You guys are wonderful with your " just a little bit pregnant aproach "

 

Cummings whas droving around even longer than this lady ...but both where breaking law ????????????

 

But Cummings is working Boris  Conservative case ....so his case can never be bad enough ......ridicolous ....both are guilty ...not just "little bit ....pregnant aproach "???? ????