webfact Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 Dozens stage attack on police station in Paris suburb Around 40 unidentified people armed with metal bars and using fireworks as projectiles tried to storm a police station in the Paris suburbs in the early hours of Sunday morning, officials said. PARIS (Reuters) - About 40 unidentified people armed with metal bars and using fireworks as projectiles tried to storm a police station in the Paris suburbs on Saturday night, officials said. "Violent attack last night on the police station of Champigny with mortar shots and various projectiles. No police officer was injured," the Paris police headquarters said on Twitter on Sunday. The police posted a video showing a barrage of fireworks going off in the direction of the police station in Champigny-sur-Marne, about 15 km (nine miles) southeast of central Paris. The assailants tried to force entry into the station, but failed to do so. Nobody was arrested, but images showed smashed windows at the station and damaged cars. 2020-10-11T154502Z_1_LOV000MA3CAOW_RTRMADV_STREAM-2000-16X9-MP4_FRANCE-POLICE-ATTACKS-UGC-ROUGH-CUT.MP4 The motive for the attack, the third on this police station in two years, was not immediately clear. The station is located in a housing estate area known for drug trafficking and deemed by authorities as a high priority district for order to be restored. Champigny Mayor Laurent Jeanne said the attack may have been triggered after a scooter accident that local residents blamed on the police. "It was an organised attack of about 40 people who wanted to do battle. For a few days it has been tense with people who have a certain willingness to do battle with the police," he told BFM TV. "Little gang leaders don't impress anyone and they will not deter our work fighting drug trafficking," Interior Minister Gerald Darmanin said on Twitter. "Full support for our police officers who are doing a difficult job." A spate of criminal incidents across France since the end of the COVID-19 lockdown in mid-May has put President Emmanuel Macron's government on heightened alert for increases in crime amid the economic fallout from the pandemic. (Reporting by John Irish; Editing by Gareth Jones and Frances Kerry) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-10-12 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I thought the French police are armed. Are they not allowed to use weapons when under attack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted October 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: I thought the French police are armed. Are they not allowed to use weapons when under attack? From the OP: Quote No police officer was injured Guess they saw no need to aggravating things. Having power and using it aren't the same thing. Edited October 12, 2020 by Morch 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brunolem Posted October 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: I thought the French police are armed. Are they not allowed to use weapons when under attack? Not against peaceful protesters... 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brunolem Posted October 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2020 7 hours ago, webfact said: A spate of criminal incidents across France since the end of the COVID-19 lockdown in mid-May has put President Emmanuel Macron's government on heightened alert Meanwhile Macron is busy micromanaging Lebanon, having proclaimed himself viceroy of this hapless country... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jesimps Posted October 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Morch said: From the OP: Guess they saw no need to aggravating things. Having power and using it aren't the same thing. "Violent attack last night on the police station of Champigny with mortar shots and various projectiles. No police officer was injured," the Paris police headquarters said on Twitter on Sunday. I'd say they had every right to use their guns. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post greenhornfarang Posted October 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2020 The wonders of cultural enrichment. 3 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, jesimps said: "Violent attack last night on the police station of Champigny with mortar shots and various projectiles. No police officer was injured," the Paris police headquarters said on Twitter on Sunday. I'd say they had every right to use their guns. Maybe so, I'm not all that clued in about relevant regulations and laws in France. Apparently, even if they are authorized to do so, they chose not to. IMO, that's because shooting would not have been the best option to deal with the situation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sirocco Posted October 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2020 in France, it's simple: a nice stranger attacks you, steals your bag or your bike, hurts you, you retaliate. Normal The nice stranger files a complaint against you, because you resisted by slapping him, and you end up at the police station and the nice stranger organizes a big demonstration with his pals, breaking everything in their path. Well, for the police, it's the same. And it's easier for them to stop yellow vests than those colorful bloodthirsty. This is FRANCE. So the government blah blah !!!!! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 13 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: I thought the French police are armed. Are they not allowed to use weapons when under attack? Most of them were likely around 15 yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Maybe they just like fireworks ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regyai Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Maybe they thought ze Germans where coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Regyai said: Maybe they thought ze Germans where coming If they thought "ze Germans" were coming they would have gone the opposite way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Defund les flics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunolem Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 5 hours ago, candide said: Most of them were likely around 15 yo. Which is their average life expectancy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdong Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 6 hours ago, candide said: Most of them were likely around 15 yo. So? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdong Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 19 hours ago, Brunolem said: Meanwhile Macron is busy micromanaging Lebanon, having proclaimed himself viceroy of this hapless country... what's that got to do with an attack on a Paris police station? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdong Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 13 hours ago, Morch said: Maybe so, I'm not all that clued in about relevant regulations and laws in France. Apparently, even if they are authorized to do so, they chose not to. IMO, that's because shooting would not have been the best option to deal with the situation. Perhaps only after taking the knee perhaps? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simon43 Posted October 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2020 6 hours ago, candide said: Most of them were likely around 15 yo. Wow, police recruitment starts at a young age.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirocco Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 POST 17, KINGDONG, hello, Maybe instead of wanting to put his nose in all the foreign countries, to give them lessons, to want to be the mediator, to make believe that he is the almighty God (which) it would be better to sweep away outside his door and take care of his own country. Because there, there is work, and he will not have enough 24 hours a day to restore everything. And the native French are fed up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Brunolem said: Which is their average life expectancy... like father like son Edited October 13, 2020 by Opl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdong Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, sirocco said: POST 17, KINGDONG, hello, Maybe instead of wanting to put his nose in all the foreign countries, to give them lessons, to want to be the mediator, to make believe that he is the almighty God (which) it would be better to sweep away outside his door and take care of his own country. Because there, there is work, and he will not have enough 24 hours a day to restore everything. And the native French are fed up with it. So were the baluba tribe in the Congo crisis and look what happened to them. Edited October 13, 2020 by kingdong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 if society treated addiction as a mental illness rather than a crime law enforcement could reduce manpower 50% but there is too much commercial incentive (legal and illegal) to keep the war on drugs raging therefore exasperating treating the malignant act of self medicating psychosocial diseases. Law enforcement would also lose the ability of using these 'laws' in their abuses of basic rights, without this blanket excuse their accountability would be much higher and thus their powers would be more limited. The war on drugs has permitted law enforcement to ride roughshod over rights for decades worldwide, some folks have just had enough.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, from the home of CC said: if society treated addiction as a mental illness rather than a crime law enforcement could reduce manpower 50% but there is too much commercial incentive (legal and illegal) to keep the war on drugs raging therefore exasperating treating the malignant act of self medicating psychosocial diseases. Law enforcement would also lose the ability of using these 'laws' in their abuses of basic rights, without this blanket excuse their accountability would be much higher and thus their powers would be more limited. The war on drugs has permitted law enforcement to ride roughshod over rights for decades worldwide, some folks have just had enough.. Reversing the accusation absolves the minorities from any fault, " it's the solciety", blame it on the State, the Police. Some folks are outlaws and make a living from their crimes, ask their families how they'd pay their rent without dirty money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 59 minutes ago, Opl said: Reversing the accusation absolves the minorities from any fault, " it's the solciety", blame it on the State, the Police. Some folks are outlaws and make a living from their crimes, ask their families how they'd pay their rent without dirty money. or banks survival from not washing it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirocco Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 " their families how they would pay their rent without dirty money." OPL, I'll take your last sentence which made me laugh. The drug money is their pocket money, Thefts, following robberies of stores, houses, pick-pocketing, following the many demonstrations where everything is ransacked where they can use, with impunity, jewelry, branded clothing of technological devices, and so on, once sold, serve pocket money. The rent paid by families? But they are all supported by the country with, as a bonus, tickets to pay for supermarkets, plus free medical or dentist care. The list of France's generosity, so as not to take more insults, more blows, is so long that it is disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) In those "low incomes " suburban cities, trafficking can be part of the process of becoming an adult for some. There is an entire local ecosystem relying on the residents network (smala, bakchich and omerta)- well known by local authorities - politicians, social workers - civil servants - part of them belonging to the same community, Of course some of them can cumulate social welfare + undocumented work + black market and trafficking, During the total lockdown, people didn't pay their rents due to the lack of dirty business. Most of them own properties in their homeland while benefitting in France/ Belgium of housing subsidies for low income households all their life long. Therefore, they - and their children- stay in those impoverished environments with bad names - and in the same time complain about ghettoisation and discrimination. The tricks to make it in France or Belgium are openly shared in online forum dedicated to the diaspora - discussions being held in French. Edited October 13, 2020 by Opl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onebir Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 34 minutes ago, Opl said: The tricks to make it in France or Belgium are openly shared in online forum dedicated to the diaspora - discussions being held in French. Frenchvisa.com ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdong Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 13 hours ago, from the home of CC said: if society treated addiction as a mental illness rather than a crime law enforcement could reduce manpower 50% but there is too much commercial incentive (legal and illegal) to keep the war on drugs raging therefore exasperating treating the malignant act of self medicating psychosocial diseases. Law enforcement would also lose the ability of using these 'laws' in their abuses of basic rights, without this blanket excuse their accountability would be much higher and thus their powers would be more limited. The war on drugs has permitted law enforcement to ride roughshod over rights for decades worldwide, some folks have just had enough.. Power to the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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