8 hours ago, Sujo said:

When will the previous repub president join the campaign to support trump.

I think you would have to go all the way back to Nixon to find a former republic POTUS that would support Trump now

2 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Shocking. Disgruntled fired ex employee loses face, is triggered and badmouths his old boss. Well I never. Probably the 1st time this has ever happened in human history, oh John Bolton and the Mooch too. Makes a three-fer.

If only is what a couple. It's pretty much everyone who has had the misfortune to have worked for this sociopath:-

Rex Tillerson called Trump a 'moron' who "doesn't like to read, doesn't read briefing reports, doesn't like to get into the details of a lot of things", Bolton accused him of 'inconsistent, scattershot decision-making process,” Mattis said '"the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people." Kelly said '"There is a concern, I think an awful big concern, that the partisanship has gotten out of hand, the tribal thing has gotten out of hand," Scaramucci said '"For the last 3 years I have fully supported this President, however recently he has said things that divide the country in a way that is unacceptable. So I didn't pass the 100% litmus test. Eventually he turns on everyone and soon it will be you and then the entire country."

4 hours ago, Isaan sailor said:

Hunter should have quit while he was ahead with his crack pipe and his hooker.

As opposed to Trump, who is actually running for president, his taxes and his porn stars...

2 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Can you provide links to the reports of Republican administrations doing all they can to deter voting within Democrat supporting counties please?

Republican voter suppression efforts were banned for decades. Here's what changed.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/republican-voter-suppression-efforts-were-banned-decades-here-s-what-n1243482?icid=msd_topgrid

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

I don't. And I did not know he was taking it for only 2 weeks, I thought it was a long term precaution he was taking. His recovery, considering his risk category was miraculous. Whether it was his faith, good doctors, sheer luck, his positive energy, or taking preventative medicine that helped most. Who knows?

 

1 hour ago, Sujo said:

How was it a miracle. Trump supporters have been saying its just the flu, only 2% die from it. So his odds were pretty good.

Game, set, match!

2 hours ago, Isaan sailor said:

Lunch bucket Joe, as he likes to call himself entered the Senate as one of the poorest.  Today he has a net worth of over $9m.  How did he become wealthy?  Don’t suggest book sales.  Try influence pedaling.

'As recently as November 2009, Joe Biden's net worth was less than $30,000, according to CBS, but life post-vice presidency has been quite lucrative for President Obama's former number two. When Biden released his financial disclosures in July of 2019, they showed that he and his wife Jill had earned more than $15 million in 2017 and 2018.

More specifically, the Bidens reported an adjusted gross income of roughly $11 million in 2017 and $4.6 million in 2018. The bulk of that number comes from a multi-book deal with Flatiron Books valued at $8 million per Publishers Weekly, but the Bidens also earned a sizable income from speaking engagements"  https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/politics/a31265187/joe-biden-net-worth/

 

All of this is easy to find as unlike Trump, Biden offers full discloseure of his finances and his taxes.

 

Edited October 17, 20205 yr by johnnybangkok

A left wing troll post has been removed for making a highly improbable and unprovable allegation.

I note there are many comments here, putting forward supposition and unproven allegations as supposed fact.

If I remove them all, there won't be much left.

This will cease and desist please.

If you have a statement of "fact" to make, ensure you support it with a reliable source of information.

Just because some left or right wing site says something, does not make it true.

We will also stay on topic and avoid getting personal or suffer the consequences.

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Trump.... Thump.  the sound at the end of his fall.

4 hours ago, Isaan sailor said:

Lunch bucket Joe, as he likes to call himself entered the Senate as one of the poorest.  Today he has a net worth of over $9m.  How did he become wealthy?  Don’t suggest book sales.  Try influence pedaling.

Seriously...how many men in the past 100 years that have entered the office of President or Vice President have not increased their wealth simply because of the celebrity of the office, book deals and speaking engagements....even Dan F'ing Quail increased his wealth. You need to find another tree to bark up. And the fact you are trying to compare the supposed corruption of Joe Biden compared to probably the most corrupt American of the past generation in Donald Trump is desperate and borderline comical.

Edited October 17, 20205 yr by Tie Dye Samurai

7 hours ago, Isaan sailor said:

And no mention of Hunter Biden’s business connections with Burisma and the CCP?  Very curious.

Cough cough, schh I thought that one had been put to bed. 

Absolutely no truth in this scurrilous story whatsoever, Joe said so. 

Look there's a squirrel.! 

Troll post and replies removed.

 

7 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Run, orange one, ruuuuuun!

 

'The legal reckoning awaiting Donald Trump if he loses the election'

Former presidents get 24-hour Secret Service protection the rest of their lives.  I don't know if they have the option to refuse it.

So if the hammer comes down on him and his when he's out of office would his bodyguards become his captors?  This is probably the first time the Service is facing this possible dilemma.

 

 

Edited October 17, 20205 yr by bendejo

3 hours ago, bendejo said:

Former presidents get 24-hour Secret Service protection the rest of their lives.  I don't know if they have the option to refuse it.

So if the hammer comes down on him and his when he's out of office would his bodyguards become his captors?  This is probably the first time the Service is facing this possible dilemma.

 

 

I believe arrangements are indeed being made for Trump to receive 24/7 lifetime ‘protection’.

11 hours ago, stevenl said:

Ever seen the inside of a computer? It needs excellent eyesight to identify anything.

Yes I have.  You need to see things up close, too.

Post containing unsubstantiated information has been removed.   Posting false or misleading information can earn a suspension.

 

8 hours ago, Smigel said:

Cough cough, schh I thought that one had been put to bed. 

Absolutely no truth in this scurrilous story whatsoever, Joe said so. 

Look there's a squirrel.! 

And the republican committee agreed there was no truth to it.

5 hours ago, candide said:

I was being sarcastic! 

You think I didn't know that? You weren't the target.

Edited October 17, 20205 yr by placeholder

22 minutes ago, Sujo said:

And the republican committee agreed there was no truth to it.

Is it possible if the republic committee you speak of had access to this laptop, and the corroborating witness confirming a)it's authenticity and b)"the big guy" to be cut in the equity being confirmed as Joe Biden (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-china-email-source-verifies) the outcome of an investigation could have been very different?

 If so, I suggest we call your statement highly contested at present.

 

4 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Is it possible if the republic committee you speak of had access to this laptop, and the corroborating witness confirming a)it's authenticity and b)"the big guy" to be cut in the equity being confirmed as Joe Biden (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-china-email-source-verifies) the outcome of an investigation could have been very different?

 If so, I suggest we call your statement highly contested at present.

 

Its not highly contested. Its fact.

 

There is no evidence at all that the computer or emails are real. Theres a lot of evidence thats its not real and just another rudy nutjob conspiracy.

 

i dont see you jumping to conclusions when its against trump, and actually verified.

3 minutes ago, Sujo said:

There is no evidence at all that the computer or emails are real. Theres a lot of evidence thats its not real and just another rudy nutjob conspiracy.

Can you explain away the corroborating witness? Confirming they are real.

 

Can you explain why the Bidens are not frantically denying the computer and emails. They have had over 48 hours now, and the best they have is a meeting was not in his "official schedule". One heck of a poor denial.

 

Tucker Carlson has made it very clear there is irrefutable evidence the computer and emails are genuine. Until he is forced to retract, I consider your old information incorrect. 

 

There is no evidence this is a nutjob conspiracy, it has gone way beyond that in terms of proof. Narratives do change, sometimes suddenly, for example "Politico has praised Mr. Scully for his “evenhandedness.” The New Hampshire Union Leader describes him as “the gold standard for intelligent and impartial handling of conversation or debate on any political issue.” https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/sep/30/inside-the-beltway-steve-scully-rescuer-of-debates/

19 hours ago, Tug said:

Ahhhh naaaaa trump is toxic no reputable person or politician will have anything to do with him heck he is actively going around spreading this deadly virus trump is so toxic I wouldent be surprised if bush endorses Joe Biden lol 

Could you call that "the pot calling the kettle black?" They're both senile fools without a spine between them!

23 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Its not highly contested. Its fact.

 

There is no evidence at all that the computer or emails are real. Theres a lot of evidence thats its not real and just another rudy nutjob conspiracy.

Fact??????

 

Sources have told Fox News that 'the big guy' is a reference to the former vice president.A proposed equity split references “20” for “H” and “10 held by H for the big guy?” with no further details. Fox News spoke to one of the people who was copied on the email, who confirmed its authenticity.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-china-email-source-verifies

14 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Can you explain away the corroborating witness? Confirming they are real.

 

Can you explain why the Bidens are not frantically denying the computer and emails. They have had over 48 hours now, and the best they have is a meeting was not in his "official schedule". One heck of a poor denial.

 

Tucker Carlson has made it very clear there is irrefutable evidence the computer and emails are genuine. Until he is forced to retract, I consider your old information incorrect. 

 

There is no evidence this is a nutjob conspiracy, it has gone way beyond that in terms of proof. Narratives do change, sometimes suddenly, for example "Politico has praised Mr. Scully for his “evenhandedness.” The New Hampshire Union Leader describes him as “the gold standard for intelligent and impartial handling of conversation or debate on any political issue.” https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/sep/30/inside-the-beltway-steve-scully-rescuer-of-debates/

Please. There's proof that the computers genuinely belonged to Hunter Biden? There's proof that all that data that's on those computers is genuine? It's not the case that the person who claims Hunter Biden dropped them off hasn't given conflicting versions of the events? If this data is so impeccable, why doesn't Giuliani share it with other investigators?

16 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

I don't see any relevance to Russia Russia Russia with this scandal. The Biden's had ample time to come out and say "Hey this is not my computer, those are not my emails!". Didn't happen. Why? Because they are caught red handed with no way to deny. Nobody now is denying the emails are genuine. That people float red herrings such as the ever predictable Russians dunnit, is to be expected but not taken seriously.

'm not going to say if the whole computer thing is fake or not. But to answer your question. Its an old political ploy.  You accuse someone of something you know they didn't do just so they have to spend time defending themselves. While defending themselves they just bring more attention to accusation. Trump falls for this all the time, whether the accusation is true or not. he can't help himself--- but others are a little smarter.

15 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Fact??????

 

Sources have told Fox News that 'the big guy' is a reference to the former vice president.A proposed equity split references “20” for “H” and “10 held by H for the big guy?” with no further details. Fox News spoke to one of the people who was copied on the email, who confirmed its authenticity.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-china-email-source-verifies

So you now accept anonymous sources?

2 minutes ago, bunnydrops said:

'm not going to say if the whole computer thing is fake or not. But to answer your question. Its an old political ploy.  You accuse someone of something you know they didn't do just so they have to spend time defending themselves. While defending themselves they just bring more attention to accusation. Trump falls for this all the time, whether the accusation is true or not. he can't help himself--- but others are a little smarter.

Also, Giuliani has been holding on to this for months. But he is just releasing it in October. Usually, when a media outlet is handed a piece of news like this, it carefully and independently vets it. NY Post assigned 2 reporters with no experience in investigative report to the story. Apparently, they just took Giuliani's word about its authenticity.

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Is it possible if the republic committee you speak of had access to this laptop, and the corroborating witness confirming a)it's authenticity and b)"the big guy" to be cut in the equity being confirmed as Joe Biden (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-china-email-source-verifies) the outcome of an investigation could have been very different?

 If so, I suggest we call your statement highly contested at present.

 

You are posting false and erroneous information from an unreliable source. A Moderator post above says such offenders could be suspended.

 

US Intel warned the WH months ago that Russia was using Giuliani to spread false information, using the term 'witting or unwitting fool' to refer to Giuliani.  Then this 'left off and forgotten laptop, supposedly to a shop run by a legally blind man, was opened and the blind man read some emails, which he then supposedly forwarded to the FBI (who remains unaware of said emails and laptop to this day). Neither SSCI nor HPSCI was given these 'emails', because they were not viewed as anything more than an FSB disinformation campaign, as both groups and the Gang of 8 had been briefed on the use of Giuliani as a 'witting or unwitting fool'.  This silly laptop nonsense was just shared with the NY Post. Certainly that says volumes about its veracity.

 

It is a ludicrous story that rational people would dismiss.

Edited October 18, 20205 yr by Walker88

As long as Giuliani refuses to release the original data for independent investigation none of this is irrefutable.

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

As long as Giuliani refuses to release the original data for independent investigation none of this is irrefutable.

Rudy has pretty much lost what's left of his credibility.  The only thing I've learned from this whole sordid affair is that US intelligence had been warning Trump for months that the Russians are using Rudy to spread disinformation.  Some have called Rudy "Russia's useful idiot."  Yet, Trump supporters are relying on this guy to deliver Trump a 2nd term.  Sad....5555   

A post which openly admits "rumour" about the laptops content has been removed, as have replies.

I have told you all before to stick to facts that you can support.

What is not disputed is that the laptop was in the hands of a Pro Trump supporter, before ending in the hands of Giuliani, whose penchant for mud slinging at Biden is well documented.

There is no proof Biden is Mr. Big. None! The explanation that "sources" told FOX news does not make it a fact.

If you want to post dubious opinion and try to portray it as fact, after so many moderator warnings on the subject, be prepared for a lengthy suspension.

Further infringements will be removed without notice and warnings given.