UK business groups urge Britain, EU to find compromise: FT

[Laughing Gravy]

1 hour ago, luckyluke said:

Personally I think, except a few radicals, nobody really care about this Brexit thing now,

4 years ago, sure.

Again you have no idea and this statement confirms it.

[Matzzon]

1 minute ago, luckyluke said:

I thought my post 2 was relevant,

but of course you may have a different opinion about it.

Yeah, but ok. Then we look at that. Maybe I missed something.

 

First you start with that you expect certain reactions, and lower down that regards emoticons that are provided in this forum. Sorry, this thread is about EU and Britain, and not how you learn to use emotions so they do not disturb luckylucke in this forum.

In the middle of all that, you added " We won, get used to it ". Hmmm.... the war is over, man! Don´t dwell on the past glory when new problems bonking on the door. Also what has been won? This thread is not about winning. The UK sees to that. There will only be one big loser. That will be the UK.

[Matzzon]

7 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

The UK have left the EU and if the EU don't want to play fair then the UK should walk away.

The EU do not play fair????!!!! What?

This thing is about already agreed things, that UK suddenly withdraw from. Have you been sleeping in a cave?

Edited October 18, 2020 by Matzzon

[Laughing Gravy]

1 minute ago, Matzzon said:

The EU do not play fair????!!!! What?

This thing is about already agreed things, that UK suddenly withdraw from. Have you been sleeping in a cave?

 

I see your our new resident expert on the Brexit threads. Welcome.

 

If you don't know what the first sentence means, then I would go back and start looking at the Brexit threads since 2015 and learn something.

 

If you come up with anything of substance, I might just reply.

[nauseus]

2 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

The EU do not play fair????!!!! What?

This thing is about already agreed things, that UK suddenly withdraw from. Have you been sleeping in a cave?

This 'thing' is about things that are not agreed. Mind your head on the stalactites.

[Kadilo]

6 hours ago, luckyluke said:

Is the request of 70 business group significant enough for Mr. Johnson to reconsider his decision? 

 

I know the answer of the Hard Brexiteers. 

 

No idea what the man in the street think. 

He’s slamming his brakes on whilst doing a 180 as we speak. 

[Rookiescot]

Brexiteers convinced themselves that Johnson was the man to "Get Brexit done".

Well here we are. His deadline has passed and he has still not got Brexit done.

They still refuse to face reality. The UK is negotiating from a position of weakness. It does not hold all the cards in the easiest trade deal in history. Johnson's rhetoric has painted himself into a corner. Fishing has become a huge issue way beyond its actual importance to either side.

But if I'm honest I have now reached the point where I want Brexit done.

Just leave with no deal and I will sit back and watch the damage done to the UK economy and be here to constantly remind my Brexiteer friends that its what they voted for. 

[Matzzon]

21 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

 

I see your our new resident expert on the Brexit threads. Welcome.

 

If you don't know what the first sentence means, then I would go back and start looking at the Brexit threads since 2015 and learn something.

 

If you come up with anything of substance, I might just reply.

So, you are saying that there was no agreement made? Are you saying that UK and Johnson did not break that and now wish to re-negotiate. After that when they do not get like they want, they no talk no more. That´s the pure essence of a little child not getting more candy in the shop.

[Matzzon]

22 minutes ago, nauseus said:

This 'thing' is about things that are not agreed. Mind your head on the stalactites.

Yes, because the things agreed are already scrapped by the UK.

[Pedrogaz]

The EU should give Britain what it wants.....that IS THE COMprOMISE THAT IS NEEDED. They weren't demanding all this stuff with the Canadian agreement were they. Cut the apron strings Boris and tell the EU to get lost.

[Kadilo]

2 minutes ago, Pedrogaz said:

Cut the apron strings Boris and tell the EU to get lost.

I think that’s what he was trying to say on Friday but when asked directly to confirm Monday’s meeting with the EU was cancelled he went into one of his famous  well it is but it isn’t  lines. 
 

 

 

[George Aylesham]

7 hours ago, luckyluke said:

Is the request of 70 business group significant enough for Mr. Johnson to reconsider his decision? 

 

I know the answer of the Hard Brexiteers. 

 

No idea what the man in the street think. 

According to sustained poll results 54% of the men and women in the street believe that the no vote was a mistake.

[transam]

1 hour ago, Matzzon said:

The EU do not play fair????!!!! What?

This thing is about already agreed things, that UK suddenly withdraw from. Have you been sleeping in a cave?

I was going to ask you the same thing as you don't seem to understand what's been going on regarding the UK being treated the same as other non EU countries, plus the UK waters now are under the control of the UK, not the EU or your Sweden....

[luckyluke]

1 hour ago, Laughing Gravy said:

You wont have any idea as you are not British.

 

There was a referendum on the matter and general elections that gave the opportunity for people to put a government in power and they choose not too.

 

So whats your obsession with the matter. The UK have left the EU and if the EU don't want to play fair then the UK should walk away. the rest of the EU can pay extra to keep the other minions taking from the coffers.

Have you read the title of this topic?

If no your post is comprehensible.

If yes, it is clear that you didn't understood it.

I will try to resume it in a simple way.

A business group of 70 is asking to continue the negotiations, as according to them too much is at stake.

In post 2 I wondered if this request will influence in any way the previous decision made by Mr. Johnson, at the same time what the opinion of Joe Bloggs ( The man in the street) would be about this request done by this group of business people which apparently give work to 7 million people.

I also stated that I was sure that the Hard Brexiteers will say : " this request is of no value and should be ignored, what important is is a Brexit without deal."
I hope you will understand now, and that your reaction is completely out of the context.

 

 

 

[luckyluke]

transam, I see you are confused,

I am sorry I can not express myself more clearly.

 

[vogie]

2 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

Have you read the title of this topic?

If no your post is comprehensible.

If yes, it is clear that you didn't understood it.

I will try to resume it in a simple way.

A business group of 70 is asking to continue the negotiations, as according to them too much is at stake.

In post 2 I wondered if this request will influence in any way the previous decision made by Mr. Johnson, at the same time what the opinion of Joe Bloggs ( The man in the street) would be about this request done by this group of business people which apparently give work to 7 million people.

I also stated that I was sure that the Hard Brexiteers will say : " this request is of no value and should be ignored, what important is is a Brexit without deal."
I hope you will understand now, and that your reaction is completely out of the context.

 

 

 

A business group of 70 is asking to continue the negotiations, as according to them too much is at stake.

 

What is the point in carrying on with the negotiations when the EU are not listening, it has become a case of two immovable objects. The EU, in particular Mr Macron has, and is still insisting on 100% fishing rights to our waters, when I own a house I chose who can come into my garden and who cannot. They are just wasting Boris and Mr Frosts time by their tactics and Boris has every right to curtail the talks, especially when there not going anywhere, well done Boris for showing a bit of Bulldog spirit.

They need to accept that we have left and we make our own rules now and we don't want the EUs.

[Matzzon]

21 minutes ago, transam said:

I was going to ask you the same thing as you don't seem to understand what's been going on regarding the UK being treated the same as other non EU countries, plus the UK waters now are under the control of the UK, not the EU or your Sweden....

What has Sweden to do with this? Are you confused?

But, sure you are right! Hope the value of the pound will keep you going in the future. Good Luck!

 

Maybe go home and start a fishing business, when you have so much water.

Edited October 18, 2020 by Matzzon

[Kadilo]

The “Bulldog” in action. 2:30 onwards. Sounds more like a poodle who has had his doggy chew taken away. 
 

 

Edited October 18, 2020 by Kadilo

[transam]

Just now, Matzzon said:

What has Sweden to do with this? Are you confused?

But, sure you are right! Hope the value of the pound will keep you going in the future. Good Luck!

Me confused, naaaaaah, just using gained knowledge......????

As for the pound and me, don't worry yourself, bulldog breed.....????

[transam]

1 minute ago, Kadilo said:

The “Bulldog” in action. 2:30 onwards. Sounds more like a poodle who has had his doggy chew taken away. 
 

 

Really, you're scraping the barrel now chap...????

[melvinmelvin]

3 hours ago, luckyluke said:

 

A few polls from different political tendencies may give an idea.

 

Personally I think, except a few radicals, nobody really care about this Brexit thing now,

4 years ago, sure.

However, starting next year, assuming it change concretely their daily life, it may again.

 

why bother to fuss over this?

 

this is just another interest group praying for their sick mothers

 

such group are there everywhere in society - have always been - nothing special

[Lormak]

We are leaving with no deal. Get used to it. These businesses have had four years to prepare - no excuses!  

[luckyluke]

2 minutes ago, vogie said:

A business group of 70 is asking to continue the negotiations, as according to them too much is at stake.

 

What is the point in carrying on with the negotiations when the EU are not listening, it has become a case of two immovable objects. The EU, in particular Mr Macron has, and is still insisting on 100% fishing rights to our waters, when I own a house I chose who can come into my garden and who cannot. They are just wasting Boris and Mr Frosts time by their tactics and Boris has every right to curtail the talks, especially when there not going anywhere, well done Boris for showing a bit of Bulldog spirit.

They need to accept that we have left and we make our own rules now and we don't want the EUs.

Your position and opinion about the matter is loud and clear.

Apparently this doesn't stop those business people to have a different opinion and to express it.

Now who is right or wrong is something each of us has to consider for his own, based on different components.

It will be Mr. Johnson who will ultimately decide,  knowing what some think about the matter ( here some major protagonists of the business world ).

 

 

[melvinmelvin]

21 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

transam, I see you are confused,

I am sorry I can not express myself more clearly.

 

 

your clear., or lack thereof, suffices - nee bother with more

the issue is Brexit, 3 years overdue

less or more clear. ain't gonna help either way

[Kadilo]

11 minutes ago, transam said:

Really, you're scraping the barrel now chap...????

Seems to be your “go to” comeback for anyone who disagrees with your views. Either that or accuse them of being a Lefty, Guardian reading, BLM supporter. 

 

I could write that reply to numerous posts I read from you and your sidekicks most days and then I would also have in the region of 60,000 posts. ????

 

 

 

 

Edited October 18, 2020 by Kadilo

[luckyluke]

2 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

 

your clear., or lack thereof, suffices - nee bother with more

the issue is Brexit, 3 years overdue

less or more clear. ain't gonna help either way

I am sorry, I don't understand what you write.

[vogie]

1 minute ago, luckyluke said:

Your position and opinion about the matter is loud and clear.

Apparently this doesn't stop those business people to have a different opinion and to express it.

Now who is right or wrong is something each of us has to consider for his own, based on different components.

It will be Mr. Johnson who will ultimately decide,  knowing what some think about the matter ( here some major protagonists of the business world ).

 

 

The "business people" can have as many opinions as they like but it is only the negotiators that count. 

I am sure that Boris wants a deal as much as anyone, but not at any price. The EU are trying their best to get their "pound of flesh" and it is not working.

[Matzzon]

15 minutes ago, transam said:

Me confused, naaaaaah, just using gained knowledge......????

As for the pound and me, don't worry yourself, bulldog breed.....????

Why are you calling other posters names, as soon as you do not agree? 

Edited October 18, 2020 by Matzzon

[transam]

3 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Seems to be your “go to” comeback for anyone who disagrees with your views. Either that or accuse them of being a Lefty, Guardian reading, BLM supporter. 

 

I could write that reply to numerous posts I read from you and your sidekicks most days and then I would also have in the region of 60,000 posts. ????

 

 

 

 

Then you should write more, no good coming on board picking out a vid of a politician then taking the p_ss out of him is it, just puts you on the same level as those who take the p_ss out of the UK in general. It's very tiresome....????

 

As for post counts, well I have been here for 14 years, try doing the maths.....????

[transam]

8 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

Why are you calling other posters names, as soon as you do not agree? 

Who have I called a name...?