25 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

In that order?

Good question, I'm still trying to make up my mind after all these years which is better. Possibly golf, it lasts longer.

8 minutes ago, Gumballl said:

 

I do have two daughters.

 

In my days as a youth, and even into adulthood, there were no lifeguards. Sure, you will find lifeguards in the more congested/popular beach destinations, but not everywhere.

 

P.S. You did not answer my question...

Please explain why you have a problem?

Please tell me when they were age 5 you let them in the sea alone and unattended.

5 minutes ago, Salerno said:

 

Ridiculous over the top post. I disagree with the OPs main thrust but that is just a pitiful personal attack on a person showing (too much) concern for the well-being of kids.

The OP raised the bar by N cm. I lowered it by -N cm. Now we are even.

 

I do not need anyone stirring up fear for the sake of doing so. Just imagine if the OP were to state that we should drive on the highway at no more than 15 km/h, because otherwise there would be carnage. Surely you can agree that something like this would be a ridiculous argument. Allow children to swim in the ocean is the same.

 

If the seas were "violent", say due to an off-shore storm, then any normal parent would use common sense and either deny a child the opportunity to enter the water, or accompany the child. I have asked the OP to present an argument/justification for their position on the matter, and I'm still waiting. So should you.

3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Please tell me when they were age 5 you let them in the sea alone and unattended.

 

You are still "dancing" around my question.

 

NO... I WOULD NOT LET my daughters (at any age) swim in the ocean when the sea is at its worst. But on a calm day, please, what is the harm.

8 minutes ago, Gumballl said:

The OP raised the bar by N cm. I lowered it by -N cm. Now we are even.

 

555 fair enough.

58 minutes ago, Liverpoolfan said:

Are you having a laugh?

Have you seen how they treat the young lads?

 

They can do no wrong and are treated like little gods whilst the girls are expected to conform and do their duties.

 

You don't think that is a 'toxic' and dangerous way to raise children?

My Thai ex wife has a nephew that is a delight to be around. The other nephew is a monster. Brought up together who can say why they are so different?

I was brought up in boarding school with zero affection and systemic bullying. While it may have had some untoward effects it didn't make me a mass murderer or a wife beater.

IMO too little is known about how to raise children to say one way is better than another.

I had no interest in Thai males, so took no interest in them, but the ones I met in shops all seemed friendly, rational, polite and intelligent.

I took a lot of interest in Thai females and whatever they are doing I have no problem with the result, except in a few cases.

Certainly my wife after a year did neither conform, nor do her "duty", which is why she is an ex wife

 

The above comments are concerning Thai children and adults, not western children about which I have no wish to comment at the moment.

24 minutes ago, Gumballl said:

 

You are still "dancing" around my question.

 

NO... I WOULD NOT LET my daughters (at any age) swim in the ocean when the sea is at its worst. But on a calm day, please, what is the harm.

Play in ocean "Alone"  you would let a 5 yr old play alone in the sea with no supervision. 

53 minutes ago, JayClay said:

 

Caucasians?

 

 

 

 

No.

 

Hint- they had their own area behind Lucky Star bar complex.

39 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Please tell me when they were age 5 you let them in the sea alone and unattended.

Plenty of parents feed their children too much bad food which is just as dangerous to their health, but you make no comment about children buying sugar and salt snack food. It might take longer to kill them but IMO just as dangerous.

 

I think part of the problem is looking at issues through western cultural bias. Most on here had the benefit of at least a high school education, often university education, then travelled,many of us grew up in very privileged circumstances compared to the average Thai person, we have been exposed to western cultural ideas and read books, essays, and listen to western broadcasters which feeds our inherent bias.

Immaterial of how long we may have lived in an Asian country, we fail mostly to understand and appreciate the cultural nuances inherent in being born into the culture, and automatically apply our default  setting of “western “ culture 

46 minutes ago, Gumballl said:

 

You are still "dancing" around my question.

 

NO... I WOULD NOT LET my daughters (at any age) swim in the ocean when the sea is at its worst. But on a calm day, please, what is the harm.

Heard of “rips” ?

3 hours ago, Liverpoolfan said:

Are you having a laugh?

Have you seen how they treat the young lads?

 

They can do no wrong and are treated like little gods whilst the girls are expected to conform and do their duties.

 

 

Yes, I like the way the women treat men in Thailand. 
 

You sound like a feminist. 
 

smart the thai blokes, they have beautiful AND respectful to men women. 
How about in Liverpool?

5 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

I guess that doesn't bother me as much with kids riding motorbikes. Perhaps because I rode a mini-bike and a Honda 90 when I was 11 yrs old. 

I do hope your parents were watching you at all times back then.

 

I haven't done much research, but would guess more kids are killed on the road than 

in the ocean.

 

4 hours ago, KeeTua said:

But I have a feeling Karma is the last thing on a mothers mind while holding her just drowned toddler in her arms.

Blimey, these kids have gone from an unspecified age, to 5 and 7 years old, and are now toddlers

all in the space of 2 pages.

 

The next horrified poster will report that  parents have been seen pouring blood and guts into 

the water to attract sharks.

 

 

4 hours ago, TacoKhun said:

How many kids drowned there for the past year?

I don't know for the specific beach the OP is talking about

however drowning is still the leading cause of death among Thai children under age 15

 

Fortunately the numbers are decreasing year after year, due to the school's efforts to learn

the child how to swim.

The lack of swimming pools for that in the rural areas is still a problem.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30366858

23 hours ago, shy coconut said:

I do hope your parents were watching you at all times back then.

 

I haven't done much research, but would guess more kids are killed on the road than 

in the ocean.

 

LOL. My generation were left to our own devices all day. I'd ride my bike down a very steep and rough track for the thrill. No adults in sight.

I'd ride my bike into town to see the movies, no adult escorted me.

 

Seems to me the current parents are breeding a generation of softies.

 

PS, just remembered I was allowed to go to the surf beach and use the old days equivalent of a boogie board, all by myself.

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL. My generation were left to our own devices all day. I'd ride my bike down a very steep and rough track for the thrill. No adults in sight.

I'd ride my bike into town to see the movies, no adult escorted me.

 

Seems to me the current parents are breeding a generation of softies.

 

PS, just remembered I was allowed to go to the surf beach and use the old days equivalent of a boogie board, all by myself.

I used tubes to make rafts and float down the irrigation canals, we'd jump in where water came under the road in rapids so bad the water would suck you down and spit you out. Awesome fun. You know that in every swimming hole we had if kids went there today the police would be called. I drove my dad's truck to work at age 14. Different time and I understand what you're saying except.

 

I try to be a decent parent and that includes hanging out with my kid at the beach.