Travel

[splodger]

I have to travel to hospital in Bangkok on Thursday 7th Jan. for an urgeny ct scan i have been tested neg. for virus.

Will i have a problem?I am travelling by private car.

Thank you in advance.

[soi3eddie]

12 minutes ago, splodger said:

I have to travel to hospital in Bangkok on Thursday 7th Jan. for an urgeny ct scan i have been tested neg. for virus.

Will i have a problem?I am travelling by private car.

Thank you in advance.

 

Unlikely you will encounter any issues. Best to carry a copy of the appointment confirmation letter to present to any officials in case you get stopped. And carry neg Covid test result too as a back-up. We all know how Thai officialdom likes paperwork. Maybe take 3 copies of each and signed and with your phone number just to be safe.

 

[Kerryd]

Inter-provincial traffic is being (semi) controlled.

As per the news article:
"People who live in the 28 provinces (listed below) now deemed ‘red zones’ are advised to not travel to other provinces unless absolutely necessary. Anyone travelling across provinces must show proof of why they are travelling." (My bolding.)

Make sure you take your passport and medical appointment paperwork with you.

Beware as well that some provinces (like Buriram and Sa Kaeo) apparently expect anyone from certain other provinces (like Chon Buri and Rayong for example) to self-quarantine for 14 days.

It shouldn't be a problem though if you are just going there for the appointment and coming back right away.

[splodger]

12 minutes ago, soi3eddie said:

 

Unlikely you will encounter any issues. Best to carry a copy of the appointment confirmation letter to present to any officials in case you get stopped. And carry neg Covid test result too as a back-up. We all know how Thai officialdom likes paperwork. Maybe take 3 copies of each and signed and with your phone number just to be safe.

 

Sound advice,thanks.Stay Safe

[Leaver]

If it's an important appointment, why not leave now, and get there before any possible changes to freedom of movement?  

[splodger]

3 minutes ago, Leaver said:

If it's an important appointment, why not leave now, and get there before any possible changes to freedom of movement?  

My appointment is for 10 AM on Thursday

[Leaver]

36 minutes ago, splodger said:

My appointment is for 10 AM on Thursday

 

Read my post again.  It still stands.

 

If you are going for a CT scan, they must know they are looking for something.  

 

Maybe best you go to Bangkok now, while you know you can still get there, so you can definitely make your appointment.

 

Could save your life.    

 

[HashBrownHarry]

11 hours ago, Leaver said:

 

Read my post again.  It still stands.

 

If you are going for a CT scan, they must know they are looking for something.  

 

Maybe best you go to Bangkok now, while you know you can still get there, so you can definitely make your appointment.

 

Could save your life.    

 

His appointment is Thursday.

 

I thought 'essential travel' was allowed, this would fit that category, right?

[splodger]

1 hour ago, HashBrownHarry said:

His appointment is Thursday.

 

I thought 'essential travel' was allowed, this would fit that category, right?

 

1 hour ago, HashBrownHarry said:

His appointment is Thursday.

 

I thought 'essential travel' was allowed, this would fit that category, right?

Appointment:An agreement to meet at a time and place.

[HashBrownHarry]

3 hours ago, splodger said:

 

Appointment:An agreement to meet at a time and place.

What's your point?

[l4ml4m]

17 hours ago, Kerryd said:

Beware as well that some provinces (like Buriram and Sa Kaeo) apparently expect anyone from certain other provinces (like Chon Buri and Rayong for example) to self-quarantine for 14 days.

This is so funny !

they cannot even correctly close their borders and they dare to imagine that they will force quarantine within the country...

ridiculous !

 

[Kerryd]

2 minutes ago, l4ml4m said:

This is so funny !

they cannot even correctly close their borders and they dare to imagine that they will force quarantine within the country...

ridiculous !

 

Yeah. The only thing they can do is activate those checkpoints they have scattered around and look at license plates. Most of the checkpoints are in the villages or on secondary highways and nowhere close to the "borders" between provinces.
You can go from Rayong through Chon Buri, Chachoengsao, Prachinburi and into Nakhon Ratchasima province on the 331/304 and there is just one checkpoint (at the top of the hill in Wang Nam Kiao) on the way and it's rarely manned.

There is one on the 359 Highway between Prachinburi and Sa Kaeo. Mostly they are looking for illegals coming from Cambodia. Usually has one lowly soldier in a booth waving at traffic to keep moving unless they are looking for something specific.

Almost every small village in Sa Kaeo between Aranyaprathet and Buriram has a "checkpoint" in the middle of the road that could be manned (depending on need, weather, time of day, etc). 

But of course, for the people who live in the area (or were raised there and are trying to get back) they know how to get around all those. 

For the rest of us, just use Google Maps and you are sure to end up going around them as it routes you on cow trails running through rice fields. 
(Just pick the smallest roads that seem to be the most direct route and you are sure to end up on some dirt track that even the "iron buffaloes" fear to travel even when it's dry.)

[Leaver]

7 hours ago, HashBrownHarry said:

His appointment is Thursday.

 

I thought 'essential travel' was allowed, this would fit that category, right?

 

Yes, it would meet that category.  

 

However, things can change very fast now. 

 

Say the government announces check points to start Thursday morning at 12.01am, and I mean seriously enforced check points.  Can you imagine the traffic backed up at the check point the next morning?  The OP may miss his appointment.

 

I guess it depends on how important the CT Scan is, and the results from it.  I would have left while I knew I could have got out.  What's 2 nights in a mid priced Bangkok hotel, compared to missing the appointment and going to the back of the queue?    

 

 

[Leaver]

6 hours ago, splodger said:

 

Appointment:An agreement to meet at a time and place.

What happens if one party can't meet their agreement, through no fault of their own? 

[Leaver]

1 hour ago, l4ml4m said:

This is so funny !

they cannot even correctly close their borders and they dare to imagine that they will force quarantine within the country...

ridiculous !

 

 

Correct, but they may also order the cancelation of elective surgeries, or minor medical procedures, as we have seen on other countries.  

 

So, the appointment is cancelled, but not much the OP can do about that.  

[HashBrownHarry]

37 minutes ago, Leaver said:

 

Yes, it would meet that category.  

 

However, things can change very fast now. 

 

Say the government announces check points to start Thursday morning at 12.01am, and I mean seriously enforced check points.  Can you imagine the traffic backed up at the check point the next morning?  The OP may miss his appointment.

 

I guess it depends on how important the CT Scan is, and the results from it.  I would have left while I knew I could have got out.  What's 2 nights in a mid priced Bangkok hotel, compared to missing the appointment and going to the back of the queue?    

 

 

It's essential travel, i suggest checkpoints would be no issue.

[HashBrownHarry]

34 minutes ago, Leaver said:

 

Correct, but they may also order the cancelation of elective surgeries, or minor medical procedures, as we have seen on other countries.  

 

So, the appointment is cancelled, but not much the OP can do about that.  

Why do you keep mentioning other countries, it's a void point.

 

I know people that have operations this year of Covid without any changes.

 

Are you suggesting they'll cancel operations? crazy.....

[Leaver]

14 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said:

It's essential travel, i suggest checkpoints would be no issue.

What about traffic at check points, should one leave to go to Bangkok on the day of the appointment?  

[Leaver]

13 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said:

Why do you keep mentioning other countries, it's a void point.

 

I know people that have operations this year of Covid without any changes.

 

Are you suggesting they'll cancel operations? crazy.....

Thailand will just copy what has worked in other countries, so it is not a void point.

 

Other countries stopped elective surgeries, and other minor procedures.  What makes you think Thailand will not copy this?

 

Just one article of many.  In this case, they needed the surgeries to be converted to ICU wards, but in many countries, elective surgery was cancelled to try to stop possibly infected people entering the hospital environmnent.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-52038230

 

   

[HashBrownHarry]

2 hours ago, Leaver said:

What about traffic at check points, should one leave to go to Bangkok on the day of the appointment?  

I'm sure the gentleman can manage his timekeeping.

 

Are you suggesting there will be a lot of traffic during a lockdown.....strange?

 

I'm my experience there's been very little traffic on the roads, you should get out more..

[HashBrownHarry]

2 hours ago, Leaver said:

Thailand will just copy what has worked in other countries, so it is not a void point.

 

Other countries stopped elective surgeries, and other minor procedures.  What makes you think Thailand will not copy this?

 

Just one article of many.  In this case, they needed the surgeries to be converted to ICU wards, but in many countries, elective surgery was cancelled to try to stop possibly infected people entering the hospital environmnent.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-52038230

 

   

You've picked Wales -  a great choice - lol

 

You've also selected government hospital, the private hospitals here in Thailand are well run business's, they're out to make money unlike government hospitals.

 

You need to think more before you comment, it's ok you'll manage at some point, maybe..

[Leaver]

6 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said:

Are you suggesting there will be a lot of traffic during a lockdown.....strange?

 

I'm my experience there's been very little traffic on the roads, you should get out more..

 

There very well could be a lot of traffic at check points, if they quarantine provinces.  The traffic simply banks up, as police / army question commuters, check ID / passports / visas,  verify bona fides etc.  Of course, this is if it is seriously implemented and enforced.

 

You really need to look past the traffic you see driving around on suburban roads and cast a thought to highways, and provincial quarantining.     

[Leaver]

23 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said:

You've picked Wales -  a great choice - lol

 

You've also selected government hospital, the private hospitals here in Thailand are well run business's, they're out to make money unlike government hospitals.

 

You need to think more before you comment, it's ok you'll manage at some point, maybe..

There are many many similar articles from all over the UK.

 

You really need to remember where you are, Harry.  You are in Thailand, a 3rd World Country, with a military dictatorship masquerading as a democracy, and you are not a citizen.

 

Your money is only as good as everyone else's, and once the beds are taken by other paying patients, there will be no bed for you.  This is the reality.

 

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, Leaver said:

Thailand will just copy what has worked in other countries, so it is not a void point.

As far as I can tell, nothing has worked in other countries.

[Leaver]

8 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

As far as I can tell, nothing has worked in other countries.

 

Lock downs and quarantining have flattened the curve, eventually allowing economies to open back up, albeit, in a covid normal way.

 

This worked in many places around the world, and we saw this in Pattaya, some months go.

 

It's incompetence, and complacency, that has allowed second and third waves to start.  The subsequent waves should have been jumped on immediately, whilst they were clusters, and not allowed to become outbreaks.  

[HashBrownHarry]

55 minutes ago, Leaver said:

 

There very well could be a lot of traffic at check points, if they quarantine provinces.  The traffic simply banks up, as police / army question commuters, check ID / passports / visas,  verify bona fides etc.  Of course, this is if it is seriously implemented and enforced.

 

You really need to look past the traffic you see driving around on suburban roads and cast a thought to highways, and provincial quarantining.     

Suburban roads - lol

 

I live in a province on one of the main routes north that the majority of Thai's use for going home during holidays etc so i have a pretty good idea of what's going on thanks very much.

 

But if i need an update on Soi Bukhoaw ( your chosen specialist subject ) i'll be sure to let you know.

[HashBrownHarry]

49 minutes ago, Leaver said:

There are many many similar articles from all over the UK.

 

You really need to remember where you are, Harry.  You are in Thailand, a 3rd World Country, with a military dictatorship masquerading as a democracy, and you are not a citizen.

 

Your money is only as good as everyone else's, and once the beds are taken by other paying patients, there will be no bed for you.  This is the reality.

 

My money is better than the majority of Thais who have very little.

 

Why do you keep refering to UK, you really need to remember where you are, UK or comparisons to it are a mute point on here.

[Leaver]

27 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said:

I live in a province on one of the main routes north

 

How about the highway to Bangkok?  Do you live near there also?  

[Leaver]

28 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said:

My money is better than the majority of Thais who have very little.

If you are in a province outside of Chonburi, it will be a tent hospital bed for you, but if you pull out your visa card, you may get upgraded to a government hospital.   ????

 

29 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said:

Why do you keep refering to UK, you really need to remember where you are, UK or comparisons to it are a mute point on here.

 

Hardly.  The UK strain of the virus is here now.  We will share the same virus with them.  ????

[HashBrownHarry]

3 minutes ago, Leaver said:

 

How about the highway to Bangkok?  Do you live near there also?  

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