webfact Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 New year road carnage: Nearly 400 dead - north of Thailand worst for accidents/fatalities REUTERS FILE PHOTO for reference only An infographic on the road death and injury toll during December 29th to January 4th published by Naew Na gave the following information: Accidents : 3,333 Injuries: 3,326 Deaths: 392 Leading causes: Speeding 33.6% DUI: 33.06% Close quarter maneuvers: 16.23% Vehicles involved in most accidents: Motorcycles: 82.54% Pick-ups: 6.19% Cars: 3.05% Where accidents occurred most: Straight roads: 65.77% Bends: 17.31% Intersections: 14.76% Times when most accidents occurred: 4 to 8pm: 27.45% Noon to 4pm: 19.53% Midnight to 4am: 15.21% Worst province for accidents: Chiang Mai with 115. Worst province for injuries: Chiang Mai with 117. Worst province for fatalities: Chiang Rai with 18. Source: Naew Na -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2021-01-06 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Graphic: Nae Na Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoePai Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Not too bad then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scammed Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 probably 99% of those that died was not inside a vehicle, but pedestrians/motorcyclists/bicyclists/pedestrians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 around 500 dead are at each public holidays in thailand. New year holiday suppose to be less traffic on the roads, because of lock downs, restrictions due to covid. Yes, as many victims, as always. The true statistics, according to international standards, take into consideration those, who died from injuries within 30 after the accident. So the true figure is around 800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxpower Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Keeping the population growth in check has its benefits. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 1 hour ago, scammed said: probably 99% of those that died was not inside a vehicle, but pedestrians/motorcyclists/bicyclists/pedestrians Plus passengers in the bed of pick ups. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 1 hour ago, JoePai said: Not too bad then At an average of 56 deaths per day, it appears to be slightly lower than the annual average. That's par for the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 10 minutes ago, maxpower said: Keeping the population growth in check has its benefits. There is no population growth in Thailand. In fact it's declining. And before you say it, it's not all down to traffic accidents! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KannikaP Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 So to sum these figures up, 66% died due to speeding influenced by DUI, the majority from motorbikes on straight roads between 4 & 8pm. Nothing to do with inter-provincial car travel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyJ Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, internationalism said: The true statistics, according to international standards, take into consideration those, who died from injuries within 30 after the accident. So the true figure is around 800 Within 30 what? Edited January 6, 2021 by JimmyJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 I don't ride my bike in the evening because of lack of light and the amount of drunk Thais on the roads. It's still dangerous during the day but less so as the figures illustrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 24 minutes ago, JimmyJ said: Within 30 what? days, not months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Moonlover Posted January 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2021 1 hour ago, KannikaP said: So to sum these figures up, 66% died due to speeding influenced by DUI, the majority from motorbikes on straight roads between 4 & 8pm. Nothing to do with inter-provincial car travel. That's right. It's been that way for as long as I've been here, about 7 years. The '7 dangerous days' that they spout on about is a complete fallacy. Every day is a dangerous day, statistically. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo2014 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Probably because people cant see through all that crop burn that wasnt suposed to happen just like road accidents were to be reduced and covid stopped. At least we have new submarines controlled by the CCP. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freigeist365 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Moonlover said: That's right. It's been that way for as long as I've been here, about 7 years. The '7 dangerous days' that they spout on about is a complete fallacy. Every day is a dangerous day, statistically. Couldn't agree more, Moonlover! I think there even was an article about that a few years ago showing that this whole "7 dangerous days" headlining is a sham when taking the numbers of the whole year into account. Looks like everyone had a smashing new year's eve then... good! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxpower Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Moonlover said: There is no population growth in Thailand. In fact it's declining. And before you say it, it's not all down to traffic accidents! Just for you. Keeping the population decline in check has its benefits. It all follows the same curve wherever you apply the factors. Diagrams available on the www. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodga Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 4 hours ago, webfact said: Where accidents occurred most: Straight roads: 65.77% says it all!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Moonlover said: Plus passengers in the bed of pick ups. Did you note the percentage of accidents for pick-ups, can you extrapolate that into deaths? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Some troll posts have been removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 3 hours ago, JimmyJ said: Within 30 what? Amazing, most would probably read that as 30 days......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Artisi said: 3 hours ago, Moonlover said: Plus passengers in the bed of pick ups. 1 minute ago, Artisi said: Did you note the percentage of accidents for pick-ups, can you extrapolate that into deaths? I've long noted that pick ups are always in 2nd place after motorcycles when it come to the type of vehicle involved in accidents. That's never been a surprise to me, given the number of them on the roads and the way they're often driven, but I've never seen actual figures for deaths relating to those accidents. But just from reports on this forum there are certainly a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 3 hours ago, internationalism said: The true statistics, according to international standards, take into consideration those, who died from injuries within 30 after the accident. So the true figure is around 800 The general consensus regarding annual road deaths in Thailand is around 24k to 26k a year, including hospital deaths. That means around 66 to 71 per day. So somewhat lower than your guesstimation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internationalism Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 I don't know about general consensus, but UN estimates 35k per year, that figure was always on wikipedia. Thai statistics are counting dead on the spot, they don't include those who died within 30 days (as is an international standard) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, internationalism said: I don't know about general consensus, but UN estimates 35k per year, that figure was always on wikipedia. Thai statistics are counting dead on the spot, they don't include those who died within 30 days (as is an international standard) Believe they do for final count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paul Henry Posted January 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2021 The main people to blame for these horrific statistics is the Government. All talk no action. Every holiday govt officials stand on their soap box and come out with meaningless dribble. Thailand needs a government that has the B!lls to take action. Policing and driver education are a complete joke costing the country billions of baht a year. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Tracy Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Paul Henry said: The main people to blame for these horrific statistics is the Government. All talk no action. Horse manure. The main people to blame for this carnage are the drivers/riders. The government does not drive drunk, speed, not wear seat belts or helmets, ghost ride, run red lights, crash on straight roads. Drivers and riders do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Henry Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Pity Scott did not read or understand what my comments said. I did not say the govt broke the driving laws I clearly stated that they did not do what is required of them. That is ENFORCE the law and IMPROVE driver education. These basics work in the rest of the world so why not in Thailand. I stand by my comments. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyman567 Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Saw a guy on a motor bike speeding past me when i was walking No helmet and he was bending over to break wind resistance. He was moving and he looked about 15 Another guy who wants to die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 14 hours ago, Scott Tracy said: Horse manure. The main people to blame for this carnage are the drivers/riders. The government does not drive drunk, speed, not wear seat belts or helmets, ghost ride, run red lights, crash on straight roads. Drivers and riders do. The government does not and cannot personally participate in your list, but on the other hand they do <deleted>-all to remedy the problem that allows and even encourages this crazy behaviour on Thai roads. It would appear you need to rethink your stance on the causes of the unacceptable ongoing slaughter of its citizens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Happyman567 said: Saw a guy on a motor bike speeding past me when i was walking No helmet and he was bending over to break wind resistance. He was moving and he looked about 15 Another guy who wants to die I call them temporary Thai's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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