quake Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Leaver said: Think what? Quote Mr and Mrs Somchai would not be allowed entry. that's what you said. Sorry but this is Thailand, and all rules and regulations mean nothing. Edited February 20, 2021 by quake 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, quake said: that's what you said. Sorry but this is Thailand, and all rules and regulations mean nothing. Ok. I see your point, but I would think authorities would enforce this one. Perhaps they should have the Thai Army as security. On second thoughts................ ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 13 hours ago, Leaver said: Should they close all bars because of alcoholics? Distraction.... like pointing at road deaths when discussing weapon control. Currently there are no casinos to close except the ones that should be. 13 hours ago, Leaver said: If the vulnerable are not allowed entry, what are the negatives? Will gambling lead to prostitution in Pattaya? Who says the vulnerable will not be allowed entry... are alcoholics stopped from entering bars or welcomed? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 15 hours ago, Leaver said: Ok. I see your point, but I would think authorities would enforce this one. Perhaps they should have the Thai Army as security. On second thoughts................ ???? Why would they enforce this and not others? Pure speculation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 12 hours ago, jacko45k said: Distraction.... like pointing at road deaths when discussing weapon control. Is not a 1 ton piece of metal, moving at 100kms or more, a weapon? 12 hours ago, jacko45k said: Currently there are no casinos to close except the ones that should be. Correct. It's the illegal casinos causing social harm to Thai's and feeding corruption. 12 hours ago, jacko45k said: Who says the vulnerable will not be allowed entry.. The Vietnam model does. 12 hours ago, jacko45k said: are alcoholics stopped from entering bars or welcomed? Why is alcohol different to gambling? Addiction is addiction. Why do you see one as acceptable, but not the other? If one is allowed, why not the other, or none at all? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 9 hours ago, HashBrownHarry said: Why would they enforce this and not others? Pure speculation. Why wouldn't they / couldn't they? Pure speculation by you that they are incapable of doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashBrownHarry Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Leaver said: Why wouldn't they / couldn't they? Pure speculation by you that they are incapable of doing so. I've given my reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, Leaver said: Why is alcohol different to gambling? Addiction is addiction. Why do you see one as acceptable, but not the other? If one is allowed, why not the other, or none at all? Answer the question instead of diverting it. I will not do that.... Alcohol addition is not more acceptable in it's worst form, why do you presume I think it is? I am not responsible for making laws, I can only say that when alcohol was made illegal, the resulting situation was very negative. It created more crime and problems than it resolved,. I see no need for the distraction...the subject is gambling not alcohol. Thailand fares well without a legalized system. We do not need these bloodsuckers. I am not familiar with Vietnam.... except there they spread the coronavirus and that it is discriminatory. Edited February 21, 2021 by jacko45k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 On 2/22/2021 at 5:26 AM, jacko45k said: Answer the question instead of diverting it. I will not do that.... Alcohol addition is not more acceptable in it's worst form, why do you presume I think it is? I am not responsible for making laws, I can only say that when alcohol was made illegal, the resulting situation was very negative. It created more crime and problems than it resolved,. I see no need for the distraction...the subject is gambling not alcohol. Thailand fares well without a legalized system. We do not need these bloodsuckers. I am not familiar with Vietnam.... except there they spread the coronavirus and that it is discriminatory. I've answered the question, several times. The Vietnam model appears to work fine. Now, if Thailand is not up to the task of implementing the same model, then that says more about Thailand, than it does about the casino entry model that exists in Vietnam. If you are not familiar with Vietnam, how can you comment that the system in place there would not / could not work here? I have no idea what you are talking about when you say Vietnam spreads the coronavirus. Vietnam was one of the first to shut its borders and is among the top countries for Covid control. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solinvictus Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 45 Nos. Wow, what a bunch of squares. Casinos would be brilliant! What a fun night out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 47 minutes ago, Leaver said: The Vietnam model appears to work fine Things are different in communist countries...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 51 minutes ago, Leaver said: Vietnam was one of the first to shut its borders and is among the top countries for Covid control. The Vietnamese casinos were responsible for coronavirus and some were shut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herwin1234 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 absolutely not. its devasting that gamble addicts loose their whole money from their family and ruin themselves financially and their families. casinos simply are harmful to society, they just dont bring any benefits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 hours ago, jacko45k said: Things are different in communist countries...... Is Thailand not currently under a similar form of government? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Just now, Leaver said: Is Thailand not currently under a similar form of government? No. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 hours ago, jacko45k said: The Vietnamese casinos were responsible for coronavirus and some were shut down. Thai gamblers and hookers returning from Burma were responsible for a huge outbreak here. Imaging if they didn't have to travel to Burma to gamble. Do you have a link for the Vietnam casino outbreak? Not doubting you, it's possible, I just didn't read about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 hours ago, herwin1234 said: absolutely not. its devasting that gamble addicts loose their whole money from their family and ruin themselves financially and their families. casinos simply are harmful to society, they just dont bring any benefits. And what of the thousands of illegal casinos all across Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, jacko45k said: No. Would you call it a democracy here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jacko45k Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 10 hours ago, Leaver said: Do you have a link for the Vietnam casino outbreak? Not doubting you, it's possible, I just didn't read about it. Just Google, it came up in an article about them reopening after being closed due to Covid, along with an article about locals being allowed into some casinos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 10 hours ago, Leaver said: Thai gamblers and hookers returning from Burma were responsible for a huge outbreak here The way I read it, it was mostly Thai female (hookers) returning. Since that is readliy available in Thailand, and not Burma, it seems to support the opposite argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 10 hours ago, Leaver said: Would you call it a democracy here? That is a different question, you associated it with a communist country. I would say closer to China than Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 9 hours ago, jacko45k said: Just Google, it came up in an article about them reopening after being closed due to Covid, along with an article about locals being allowed into some casinos. Couldn't find anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 9 hours ago, jacko45k said: The way I read it, it was mostly Thai female (hookers) returning. Since that is readliy available in Thailand, and not Burma, it seems to support the opposite argument. I've been to Myanmar. It's readily available, but I am not sure about inside the casino. I did read it was some returning Thai hookers and Thai gamblers that bought it in with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 9 hours ago, jacko45k said: That is a different question, you associated it with a communist country. I would say closer to China than Thailand. Quite ironic that both Communist countries, China and Vietnam, have casinos, but Thailand, a so called democratic country, does not. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 43 minutes ago, Leaver said: Quite ironic that both Communist countries, China and Vietnam, have casinos, but Thailand, a so called democratic country, does not. ???? Ironic... one word for it. Communism is not a direction I want to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Ironic... one word for it. Communism is not a direction I want to take. Thailand's last election wasn't exactly a shining light for democracy, was it? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Leaver said: Thailand's last election wasn't exactly a shining light for democracy, was it? ???? Nor was Vietnam's nor Chinas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leaver Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Nor was Vietnam's nor Chinas. So, it appears they are on par with each other. ???? Edited February 27, 2021 by Leaver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 12 hours ago, Leaver said: So, it appears they are on par with each other. ???? Vietnam on a par with China... hardly an attractive stance for tourism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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