Thailand 4th among 98 countries studied for best response in handling pandemic

[sitti]

Ouch, bad news for Thai bashers ????

 

Congrats for Thailand!! It was very obvious since last year that Thailand has been doing far better job containing pandemic that vast majority of western countries.

[sydneyjed]

Don't know when this data was compiled as NZ now has a serious outbreak of South African strain after a hotel quarantine returnee was allowed to roam freely for ten days after coming down with Covid.So serious that Australia has blocked all travel from there where they have had no Covid cases in the Australian community for some 11 days.Vietnam also has an outbreak in Han Hoi I have just seen on the BBC World News..92 cases..so this data is now old hat I'm afraid!

Edited January 29, 2021 by sydneyjed

[Jeffr2]

3 minutes ago, sydneyjed said:

Don't know when this data was compiled as NZ now has a serious outbreak of South African strain after a hotel quarantine returnee was allowed to roam freely for ten days after coming down with Covid.So serious that Australia has blocked all travel from there where they have had no Covid cases in the Australian community for some 11 days.Vietnam also has an outbreak in Han Hoi I have just seen on the BBC World News..92 cases..so this data is now old hat I'm afraid!

It only takes a day or so for things to change.  This virus is a nasty one.  Look what happened here in a very short amount of time.

[Salerno]

25 minutes ago, sydneyjed said:

NZ now has a serious outbreak

 

Serious? 5555

 

Three people, already contained.

 

25 minutes ago, sydneyjed said:

So serious that Australia has blocked all travel from there

 

A temporary 72 hour halt to give time for NZ to get a handle on how it happened and to contain the outbreak (not sure if lifted yesterday or not?).

 

Edit: temporary ban extended to Sunday as people that where in the same quarantine hotel in NZ as the three with the SA strain had flown to Australia.

Edited January 29, 2021 by Salerno

[Jonnapat]

As far as I'm concerned, credid where credit is due.

[Solinvictus]

I do feel positive that Thailand has low numbers. I also appreciate how more folks here seemed to be willing to wear a mask. ????

[Salerno]

32 minutes ago, DjSilver said:

I've seen statistics for example that pneumonia deaths increased with 600 % during the period March - May 2020

 

Seen where?

[ivor bigun]

5 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

What, this post has been up 17 hours and not one of the usual bores has been along with the "no testing" cliche?  I'm severely disappointed.

Its been up longer than that i posted it in General 2 days ago and hardly anyone replied????

[sydneyjed]

2 hours ago, Salerno said:

 

Serious? 5555

 

Three people, already contained.

 

 

A temporary 72 hour halt to give time for NZ to get a handle on how it happened and to contain the outbreak (not sure if lifted yesterday or not?).

 

Edit: temporary ban extended to Sunday as people that where in the same quarantine hotel in NZ as the three with the SA strain had flown to Australia.

Yes serious enough in the way Australia views  and handles outbreaks now as it closes its own state borders in a heart beat to its own citizens..No mucking around I'm afraid even with overpaid tennis stars!

[Salerno]

1 minute ago, sydneyjed said:

Yes serious

 

In no way can three people be called a "serious outbreak" by any stretch of the imagination.

[metisdead]

A post with content that was copy and pasted from another site without a supporting link has been removed as well as the replies. 

 

A conspiracy post has been removed as well as the replies. 

[Raphus]

Yeh. The government needs to post this out very quickly before they lose control. Thailand is now dealing with a spreading issue that they cannot control.

[unblocktheplanet]

Until now... IMO, govt shot all of us in the foot when it failed to shut down new year travel, curfew, lockdown & shelter in place orders. Ordinary Thais shine at the rest of the precautions.

 

Although most Covid+ cases have been in Samut Sakhon, travel spread the virus to 70 provinces. Bangkok is still a bright red hub, pushing 700 infections.

 

Way too early to open schools let alone make a public holiday of Chinese New Year February 12 and pass out travel promotions. Then comes Songkran.

 

Vietnam is #2 and very much a developing country in comparison to Thailand.

 

And how much does govt really care about us: "Rejection of India's vaccine offer adds to mounting concerns over Thailand's vaccine program" in other media states that India is already producing AstraZeneca vaccine to Thailand AT COST right now. The generals said no thanks! Makes no sense!

 

More pigs in the trough for making (& selling for profit here and in other countries) vaccine here or contracting with our Chinese big brother?

 

It was greed & corruption which got us this second wave. Maybe there should be oversight, transparency and public input. (Oh wait! I forgot where we live...)

 

 

[pedro01]

On 1/28/2021 at 4:08 PM, law ling said:

A strange mix:

 

4th on pandemic handling (well done, by the way).

 

Yet 104th on Corruption Perceptions Index.

 

Pandemic - largely down to the people

Corruption - largely down to the people in power

 

It is well deserved - we've all sailed through this relatively speaking.

[kingdong]

11 hours ago, rabas said:

 

... and then came the pandemic, just one more reason to be here ...

And if the virus does hit thailand its nice to know they can cope.

[kingdong]

8 hours ago, sitti said:

Ouch, bad news for Thai bashers ????

 

Congrats for Thailand!! It was very obvious since last year that Thailand has been doing far better job containing pandemic that vast majority of western countries.

Their handling of the panademic has been magnificent as i,m sure their vaccine programme will.

[tgw]

I have heard Europe wants to emulate Thailand's COVID-19 response.

Starting next week, the EU will increase temperatures by 33 degrees Celsius and up UV radiation and atmospheric humidity as well.

[rabang]

7 minutes ago, tgw said:

I have heard Europe wants to emulate Thailand's COVID-19 response.

Starting next week, the EU will increase temperatures by 33 degrees Celsius and up UV radiation and atmospheric humidity as well.

As a matter of fact in Sweden the second wave is rapidly decreasing without massive restrictions and lockdowns even though they are still in mid winter, dark and cold. As happens with flu as well around these times.

[rabas]

2 hours ago, rabang said:

As a matter of fact in Sweden the second wave is rapidly decreasing without massive restrictions and lockdowns even though they are still in mid winter, dark and cold. As happens with flu as well around these times.

 

You mean the lack of restrictions led to the big second wave?

 

[rabang]

3 hours ago, rabas said:

 

You mean the lack of restrictions led to the big second wave?

 

Call it as you may. If you mean that the lack of restrictions occasionally leads to waves of infectious diseases in general.

[AgentSmith]

On 1/28/2021 at 6:33 PM, internationalism said:

what differed thailand from the other during the firs wave:

prohibition for over 60 days (minimum 30 days)

night curfew 22pm-5am, later lessened to 4h

That definitely helped prevent many social interactions and slow and finally stop the virus.

 

On 1/28/2021 at 6:33 PM, internationalism said:

but many other factors, not depending on the government

- high social discipline, even small kids 2-3 years old wearing masks

- asian/budhist waing as a greeting, instead of hand shaking or even hugging/kissing in muslim countries

- high temperature and humidity stopped first wave, the second wave came with cool and dry winter months. Bangkok is the hottest city in the world, taking humidity into consideration

Although I'm pro mask wearing this still hasn't been proven to be effective. Lots of masks here don't even do much to hold back viral particle because they're worn wrong, too long or people simply don't use masks that stop tiny particles from passing through. Maintaining distance is most likely much more effective and that is something even Thai people find pretty hard to do in stores, on markets etc.

 

On 1/28/2021 at 6:33 PM, internationalism said:

Other probable:

- genetic immunity. There are 2 theories. Similar coronavirus some 10k years ago. Other viruses (dengue, chikungunya  and the other tropical), which protected from catching covid.

- high quality fresh food giving nutrients and vitamins, including herbs and spices, all helping immunity.

Those aren't probable in the least bit. There's not a shred of evidence for this. Facebook science is what it is. Vitamins don't enhance immunity or prevent people from getting sick. That's an urban myth.

 

On 1/28/2021 at 6:33 PM, internationalism said:

There is possible, that many were asymptomatic even before the first wave, even before mass tests were developed. With low testing (no need, as there are no sick people in the hospitals) statistics are low.

Anything is possible but we will never know since no one was ever tested before the first wave. There's also an hypothesis that the first variant of the Wuhan virus was much less contagious but we will never truly know because no samples were taken before the first wave hit.

 

On 1/28/2021 at 6:33 PM, internationalism said:

Covid free hub might not survive the second and next waves, as the government made many blunders with vax. 

So the fight was won, but the war is still going on and outcome unknown  

We'll see. So far Thailand has done very well without any vaccines. If they can keep illegal immigration under control we'll be just fine here. State quarantine is a perfect system to keep new cases from ending up in the general population.

[PeeJayEm]

On 1/28/2021 at 11:33 AM, internationalism said:

what differed thailand from the other during the firs wave:

prohibition for over 60 days (minimum 30 days)

night curfew 22pm-5am, later lessened to 4h

 

but many other factors, not depending on the government

- high social discipline, even small kids 2-3 years old wearing masks

- asian/budhist waing as a greeting, instead of hand shaking or even hugging/kissing in muslim countries

- high temperature and humidity stopped first wave, the second wave came with cool and dry winter months. Bangkok is the hottest city in the world, taking humidity into consideration

 

Other probable:

- genetic immunity. There are 2 theories. Similar coronavirus some 10k years ago. Other viruses (dengue, chikungunya  and the other tropical), which protected from catching covid.

- high quality fresh food giving nutrients and vitamins, including herbs and spices, all helping immunity.

 

There is possible, that many were asymptomatic even before the first wave, even before mass tests were developed. With low testing (no need, as there are no sick people in the hospitals) statistics are low.

 

Covid free hub might not survive the second and next waves, as the government made many blunders with vax. 

So the fight was won, but the war is still going on and outcome unknown  

There is a lot of complete bs, nonsense and falicy in this reply.  Bangkok being the hottest world  in the world for one thing (try Mecca or Muscat) - and how would that even affect the rest of the country lol - which, before you start on that.... is no where nearest the hottest country in the world.

Travel ban form day one and keeping the virus out is the single most significant effort that all the top countries made (Thailand, Taiwan, Singapore, Australia, NZ).  The rest is less

 consequential although contributory.

 

Thailand is one of the best countries in the world on Covid.  That means the people

and their government and whatever they did together. No need to dissect it as though there’s some hidden advantage to be uncovered.  They simply did the right things that other countries like Europe and USA did not do.

[Rimmer]

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[Thomas J]

What a shock, New Zealand, Cyprus and Taiwan three islands.  Vietnam and Thailand extremely hot average temperatures that kill the virus. 

[Jeffr2]

22 minutes ago, Thomas J said:

What a shock, New Zealand, Cyprus and Taiwan three islands.  Vietnam and Thailand extremely hot average temperatures that kill the virus. 

And all locked down severely and initiated border controls.  Unlike most countries in the West...where the virus is raging.  What a shock.

[Thomas J]

1 hour ago, Jeffr2 said:

And all locked down severely and initiated border controls.  Unlike most countries in the West...where the virus is raging.  What a shock.

Islands, easy to lock down. Cyprus pop. 875,000.  Taiwan 23.75 million, 4.9 million.  Try that in Europe or the USA with populations in excess of 300 million and thousands of kilometers of common borders. 

These are the countries with the lowest rates of covid infection per million.  One thing in common.  All hotter than normal countries.  Or are you trying to shovel that the low rate was due to the excellent procedures from Laos, Cambodia, and the Western Sahara.  

Dr. Anthony Fauci: “With other viruses like seasonal influenza or other coronaviruses that are more benign. As the weather gets warmer, viruses tend to do poorly in warm, moist weather and do quite well in cold, dry weather. …

 

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article243753872.html

 

Edited January 30, 2021 by Thomas J

[herwin1234]

On 1/29/2021 at 9:09 AM, Jeffr2 said:

Congrats to Thailand for this.  I'd rather be here than just about any other country in the West.

The horror, being in a country with anti vaxxers, ignorant people proudly not wearing a mask, people who know it all bc they saw a Youtube video...

Glad to be in Thailand!

[Thomas J]

1 minute ago, herwin1234 said:

Glad to be in Thailand!

I think it is fortunate that people living in Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos have a low rate of Covid.  However attributing it to the actions of those countries is giving credit to their policies rather than the fortunate circumstances that their climates are warm and sunny is misguided.   It is like having a patient who has a heart attack and the doctor mistakes him and amputates his leg and the patient still survives.  It was not the amputation that saved the persons life, he was just fortunate.  Correlation does not mean causation.  Certainly places like Tanzania, Laos, Cambodia, the Western Sahara, do not have amongst the lowest incidence of Covid because of their fast and expert response.   The state in the USA with the lowest covid infection rate is Hawaii.  First an island so easier to isolate and secondly warm and sunny. 

[Huckenfell]

On 1/29/2021 at 11:34 AM, Dialemco said:

No one really knows why some Asian Countries have fared better in controlling the viras but of course additional deaths have not been taken into account nor has testing been carried out except where flare up have occured. Let's hope wet markets will not be reopened as these were the cause of the Wuhan outbreak

What about Bangkok's Chatuchauck market where wild animals from the world are available.

[Huckenfell]

21 hours ago, tgw said:

I have heard Europe wants to emulate Thailand's COVID-19 response.

Starting next week, the EU will increase temperatures by 33 degrees Celsius and up UV radiation and atmospheric humidity as well.

And of course , increase the air pollution.