Noise noise noise help help help

[Somtamnication]

We moved to a shophouse where the bedroom faces the main street. Enough said!!!

 

I have tried the large square foam (labeled noise cancelling) from homepro and baan &, with supposedly noise reducing foam (so a double layer). Nothing. The room has 3 windows and a balcony door. All filled with these stuff. Nothing.

 

I am not an acoustic guy, but do I need to cover the walls as well? We tried egg cartons, too.

 

Short of building a layer of the insulating foam used on ceilings and then adding another wall layer, I am at a loss. 

 

Any ideas?

[Pilotman]

move

[Oldie]

The cheapest option might be good earplugs. 

[CharlieH]

How much money do you want to throw at the problem ?

 

Alluminium frame and double glaze a partition right across in front of it. (Like patio doors) Job done 15k.(about). ???? relatively easy to dismantle if you move again too. Just a suggestion.

[orchis]

move move move.

[NCC1701A]

earplugs

 

https://www.macksearplugs.com/product/thermafit-soft-foam-ear-plugs/

[Somtamnication]

LOL. I hear all of you. 

20 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

How much money do you want to throw at the problem ?

 

Alluminium frame and double glaze a partition right across in front of it. (Like patio doors) Job done 15k.(about). ???? relatively easy to dismantle if you move again too. Just a suggestion.

 

Indeed.  The about 15k sounds interesting.  Leads? Tks.

[4MyEgo]

If you have no floor coverings that will intensify the sound.

 

I haven't tried it, but we have no floor coverings and just the sound of talk is amplified.

 

This may help, although you would have to work out how big of an area you have and whether it's feasible.

 

Alternatively the second link, as I recall I entered a house on a main road years ago and had to ask why it was quiet and the lady who lived there showed me two devices, one on the front window and one on the door, they were similar to the product in the 2nd link and probably more aesthetically pleasing than in the 1st link.

 

More research though would be needed of course.

 

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/osman-sound-deadener-mat-insulation-cotton-deadening-noise-acoustic-dampening-foam-i1321258404-s3282044417.html?exlaz=d_1:mm_150050845_51350205_2010350205::12:1498579383!58089999096!!!pla-294682000766!c!294682000766!3282044417!129607887&gclid=Cj0KCQiApY6BBhCsARIsAOI_GjbnM8xo49WIJFNn1X2vOK8cA6g-x2EoFx_m_GPkEvYapX4tojBd8AgaAo_AEALw_wcB

 

Link number 2: http://www.droold.com/sound-proof-any-space-with-this-tiny-gadget/#:~:text=Well%2C sounds like you could,you're good to go.

Edited February 11, 2021 by 4MyEgo

[blackcab]

Exactly what @CharlieH said. The more gap you can leave, the better. A friend of mine has done this in a shophouse and left a 1 meter gap to create a small room which they have filled with plants.

 

It didn't get rid of all of the noise but it certainly reduced it considerably.

[ardsong]

Indeed the first attack, imho, would be a second glass pane in front of the existing one. don't forget also to cover teh balcony door.

For best sound insulation, take care for a large space in between the window panes and also make the tickness of glass of the new pane different from the existing one; the will prevent the same resonance frequency on both panes, a glass pane on its resonance frequency will not dampen the sound but allow it to be transmitted, if both panes are different thickness glass ,say 4 and 5 mm thick, the noise reduction is larger. Also take care no ventilation openeing in the wall towards the noisy street, unless you need to make a difficutl additiona sound proof ventilation box.

Inside the room, you will have to add materials that absorb the sound , you may think on a carpet on the floor , curtains or sound absorbing materials againsta walls, ceilng and floor,it is to dampen teh echoing of sound inside a hard walled room, echo chamber.

If that all not helps enough, you better move to a quieter surrounding.

Did work 10 yrs in industrial noise abatement.

[ardsong]

and I assume your building has concrete walls, ceiling and floor  as the heavy materials will dampen the sound better than a light wooden wall; like in traditional Thai houses.

[Guderian]

Get in the spirit of things, channel your inner Thainess and stick a sound system with 10KW sub-woofer on your balcony, then let her rip!

[KarenBravo]

It's starting to look like moving would be financially advantageous.

Why spend all this money of your own on a rental property?

 

Why did you rent it in the first place?

[Brick Top]

6 hours ago, Pilotman said:

move

Or move in some noisy bar girls to block the noise from the street

Edited February 11, 2021 by Brick Top
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[Pilotman]

5 hours ago, blackcab said:

Exactly what @CharlieH said. The more gap you can leave, the better. A friend of mine has done this in a shophouse and left a 1 meter gap to create a small room which they have filled with plants.

 

It didn't get rid of all of the noise but it certainly reduced it considerably.

the best gap of all would be anything in excess of 1 kilometre, by moving 

[mike787]

JUST MOVE!  You like pain and suffer - stay where you are and we can all read about it here.

[Pilotman]

6 hours ago, Oldie said:

The cheapest option might be good earplugs. 

I live in a quiet rural type setting, but still need ear plugs on the occasions when the frogs, toads, lizards and birds start their noise.  It can be quite deafening sometimes. 

[1FinickyOne]

27 minutes ago, Brick Top said:

Or move in some noisy bar girls to block the noise from the street

ha ha... the newbie solution for all life's problems... good idea, sure... 

[connda]

7 hours ago, Somtamnication said:

We moved to a shophouse where the bedroom faces the main street. Enough said!!!

 

I have tried the large square foam (labeled noise cancelling) from homepro and baan &, with supposedly noise reducing foam (so a double layer). Nothing. The room has 3 windows and a balcony door. All filled with these stuff. Nothing.

 

I am not an acoustic guy, but do I need to cover the walls as well? We tried egg cartons, too.

 

Short of building a layer of the insulating foam used on ceilings and then adding another wall layer, I am at a loss. 

 

Any ideas?

Time.  Eventually you'll just tune it out.  If you can't?  Then the other option is Move.
I live on a highway with the bedrooms facing the road. Been there for years.  Barely notice it except for the morons screaming advertising via PA speakers. 

[Orton Rd]

6 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

earplugs

 

https://www.macksearplugs.com/product/thermafit-soft-foam-ear-plugs/

They are rubbish, the best are wax ones from Boots pharmacy, 99 baht, almost always have them in and they block the Mrs nonsense out as well!

[connda]

2 hours ago, Guderian said:

Get in the spirit of things, channel your inner Thainess and stick a sound system with 10KW sub-woofer on your balcony, then let her rip!

I highly endorse this suggestion.  Especially if you happen to be a metal-head!  ????

 

[Tanoshi]

Each end of the street.

 

 

 

[jesimps]

I live in a 2-storey house on 2.4M high concrete columns and it's quite noisey when local dogs are sounding off, which is practically all hours of the day and night. Also, when someone's playing bass-heavy music. I recently built a room  downstairs for the daughter under the main bedroom, and from there I don't hear a peep. If she ever moves out, I'll be grabbing it for my study. If I could afford it, I'd block in the whole downstairs.

[EricTh]

7 hours ago, Somtamnication said:

LOL. I hear all of you. 

 

Indeed.  The about 15k sounds interesting.  Leads? Tks.

 

All those so-called noise blocking bs that you read in the internet don't work. 

 

I have tried some of these and it doesn't work.

 

The noise go through ceiling, window panes, and cracks on wall or gaps of windows.

 

Earplugs cause itchiness after some time and only block soft noise not loud noise so don't listen to some readers here.

 

The solution is to move.

 

 

Edited February 11, 2021 by EricTh

[Oldie]

38 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

I live in a quiet rural type setting, but still need ear plugs on the occasions when the frogs, toads, lizards and birds start their noise.  It can be quite deafening sometimes. 

I am that far that I can't sleep without earplugs anymore even if it is completely quiet. Important is to try many different versions to find out the one that you like most. I have some made of a kind of rubber. Block perfectly and hold forever. Foam versions for instance I did not like and they don't block good enough - not good enough for Pattaya... 

[Pmbkk]

7 hours ago, Somtamnication said:

LOL. I hear all of you. 

 

Indeed.  The about 15k sounds interesting.  Leads? Tks.

 

I used to have an apartment in the center of a Marina in Marbella. No amount of double/triple glazing helped me keep the noise out - even if you're on the top floor !

 

I'd go with move...

[Tropposurfer]

8 hours ago, Somtamnication said:

We moved to a shophouse where the bedroom faces the main street. Enough said!!!

 

I have tried the large square foam (labeled noise cancelling) from homepro and baan &, with supposedly noise reducing foam (so a double layer). Nothing. The room has 3 windows and a balcony door. All filled with these stuff. Nothing.

 

I am not an acoustic guy, but do I need to cover the walls as well? We tried egg cartons, too.

 

Short of building a layer of the insulating foam used on ceilings and then adding another wall layer, I am at a loss. 

 

Any ideas?

Double glaze all the windows. Single pane glass windows let in almost all sound. Prefabricated smooth (looks paints and feels like normal plaster boarding) but very high sound insulation panelling comes from a range of manufacturers. Easy to install to existing walls. Try Hardie Products, and CSR available in Thailand.

[Bangkok Barry]

8 hours ago, Somtamnication said:

We moved to a shophouse where the bedroom faces the main street.

 

And the noise came as a surprise to you? Is it possible to re-configure the place so that the bedroom isn't at the front?

[mike787]

Call an architect to sound proof, call police, move, take drugs, pay for street closure, tolerate, suicide, pray, wear an amulet, remove ear drums, buy Bose noise canceling headsets, learn to enjoy it, etc, etc..several options pick one.

[Oldie]

1 hour ago, Tropposurfer said:

Double glaze all the windows. Single pane glass windows let in almost all sound. Prefabricated smooth (looks paints and feels like normal plaster boarding) but very high sound insulation panelling comes from a range of manufacturers. Easy to install to existing walls. Try Hardie Products, and CSR available in Thailand.

Double glazing alone will not change much. Noise cancellation / reduction with windows is a science. You need to have panes of different thickness with a minimum distance apart. You can fill heavy gas between the panes. But in the end it depends on the frequency of the sound. Deep frequencies are very hard and expensive to block. I have special double windows with more than 2 cm glass thickness in total. But when it comes to deep noisy bass frequencies this is not enough.