With Republican firewall, U.S. Senate acquits Trump of inciting deadly Capitol riot

[cmarshall]

4 minutes ago, Sujo said:

And you are wrong. The senate determines who it can impeach, the senate alone. That makes it constitutional. Enough.

 

Mere repetition is not rebuttal.

[Surelynot]

24 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Wrong, I only watch RT news, which is unbiased

Tell me you are a wind-up merchant.

[heybruce]

25 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Wrong, I only watch RT news, which is unbiased with US news. 

I certainly can't think of one in the US. 

That explains your posts.

[Neeranam]

13 minutes ago, heybruce said:

That explains your posts.

How so? Do you disagree with what I said?

Shoot from the hip, cowboy.

 

Pray tell us which non=biased news channel you watch.

 

 

 

[Surelynot]

Just now, Neeranam said:

How so? Do you disagree with what I said?

Shoot from the hip, cowboy.

 

RT is a state-controlled international television network funded by the federal tax budget of the Russian government.

[Neeranam]

Just now, Surelynot said:

RT is a state-controlled international television network funded by the federal tax budget of the Russian government.

I know, and therefore more honest with their news than CNN or Fox!

[billd766]

4 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

The case against Trump was solid. McConnell even admitted it. He was spineless to go against his oath of office.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/19/us/politics/mcconnell-trump.html

 

Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader, said on Tuesday that the mob that stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6 had been “provoked by the president and other powerful people,” stating publicly for the first time that he holds President Trump at least partly responsible for the assault.

 

“The mob was fed lies,” Mr. McConnell said, referring to attempts by Mr. Trump to overturn the election based on bogus claims of voter fraud. “They were provoked by the president and other powerful people. And they tried to use fear and violence to stop a specific proceeding of the first branch of the federal government which they did not like.”

If McConnell was so sure that Trump was guilty, WHY did he vote to acquit Trump and then come out mealy mouthed after Trump was found not guilty?

[Surelynot]

Just now, Neeranam said:

I know, and therefore more honest with their news than CNN or Fox!

Oh boy....you are on one.....

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

If McConnell was so sure that Trump was guilty, WHY did he vote to acquit Trump and then come out mealy mouthed after Trump was found not guilty?

His "excuse" was the impeachment was invalid...not that Trump was innocent.

[Neeranam]

2 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Oh boy....you are on one.....

Pardon me? 

 

Do you think Fox or CNN are not biased and broadcast lies?

[Surelynot]

13 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Pardon me? 

 

Do you think Fox or CNN are not biased and broadcast lies?

Fox is the single most atrocious 'news' outlet on the planet........but neither Fox nor CNN are state funded by a totalitarian regime.....get a grip.

[Neeranam]

37 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

RT is a state-controlled international television network funded by the federal tax budget of the Russian government.

So not one of the CNN viewers say I am wrong in that it is totally biased?

[heybruce]

37 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

How so? Do you disagree with what I said?

Shoot from the hip, cowboy.

 

Pray tell us which non=biased news channel you watch.

On this particular topic you professed ignorance about the lawsuits Trump is facing and referred to his impeachment as a witch hunt.  That certainly shows a lack of information about Trump.

 

I assume RT is as flattering of Trump, who did much to undermine America's standing in the world, as it is of Putin.

 

As I've posted repeatedly, I don't get my news from television.  I read.

[Matreusse]

On 2/14/2021 at 8:33 AM, rooster59 said:

The bottom line is that we convinced a big majority in the Senate of our case,"

No, the bottom line was that he didn't convince enough Senators of the merits of his daft case!

 

Edit:  I know Salerno, you're confused, never mind, you'll get it one day.

[stevenl]

3 minutes ago, Matreusse said:

No, the bottom line was that he didn't convince enough Senators of the merits of his daft case!

No, despite the merits of the case, see McConnell's comments, they decided not to convict.

[Stargeezr]

Well the impeachment is over, and some even said the MAGA garbage again.

  I am waiting to see Trump in a court, vainly trying to tell the truth, he will probable

look worse than the lawyer with hair dye running down his cheek.    I am waiting to see

  Trump lose more and more of his money and support.  He still has lots of supporters,

but as some say, so did the Jones guy who convinced a lot of people to drink the

purple coolaid.  Jones Town Jones.   Remember the lemmings, they were followers 

as well.

Geezer

[Matreusse]

15 minutes ago, stevenl said:

19 minutes ago, Matreusse said:

No, the bottom line was that he didn't convince enough Senators of the merits of his daft case!

No, despite the merits of the case, see McConnell's comments, they decided not to convict.

Yes, exactly, they couldn't convict because they didn't convince enough Senators of the merits of their daft case,  McConnell was expressing only his own personal opinion.

[Surelynot]

4 minutes ago, Matreusse said:

McConnell was expressing......

...what all right minded people are thinking.

[Matreusse]

3 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

8 minutes ago, Matreusse said:

McConnell was expressing......

...what all right minded people are thinking.

...in your opinion that assumes that anyone who doesn't think the same way as you is not "right minded" [sic].  You do not represent all right-minded people, by a long stretch.

 

and that doesn't speak for "all right-minded people".

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, Sujo said:

And you are wrong. The senate determines who it can impeach, the senate alone. That makes it constitutional. Enough.

The senate doesn't impeach- that is done in the house.

 

Only the written constitution is constitutional. The senate can't change the constitution on its own volition.

If the senate could change the constitution they could have convicted Trump on a simple majority vote and IMO they would have if able, but they couldn't which proves that "That makes it constitutional" is not so. Enough.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, Surelynot said:

Trump with Sarah Green as VP....dream ticket....(for the Dem's)

At least we can be sure it won't be Pence when Trump comes back as 48th president ( I'm pretty sure there will be another president before 2024 ).

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, Surelynot said:

His "excuse" was the impeachment was invalid...not that Trump was innocent.

Trump was already impeached. McConnell may have agreed with most of the GOP senators that considered the trial unconstitutional.

[Sujo]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

Trump was already impeached. McConnell may have agreed with most of the GOP senators that considered the trial unconstitutional.

But they voted it was.

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, Sujo said:

But they voted it was.

In their opinion. I never said they couldn't vote to do whatever they want, but a vote doesn't make it constitutional, and I'm sure you know that. If they could do whatever they liked on a majority vote they could prevent Trump standing again anyway, but they are not going to, because only a conviction of the impeachment would have allowed them to do so.

[Eric Loh]

15 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Trump was already impeached. McConnell may have agreed with most of the GOP senators that considered the trial unconstitutional.

McConnell delayed the impeachment trial till Trump was out of office. Just how hypocritical of him to consider the trial unconstitutional because he was out of office. McConnell earned another moniker as the Grim Hypocrite. 

[Neeranam]

Sadly, there is a lot of "I not a Trump supporter and so more intelligent than you" attitude. These supremacists annoy me.

[Sujo]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The senate doesn't impeach- that is done in the house.

 

Only the written constitution is constitutional. The senate can't change the constitution on its own volition.

If the senate could change the constitution they could have convicted Trump on a simple majority vote and IMO they would have if able, but they couldn't which proves that "That makes it constitutional" is not so. Enough.

The constitution states the senate has the sole power to try the case. So if it decides it can then it can, as stated in the constitution.

 

What part of that dont you understand.

 

I never mentioned the process of a verdict.

[heybruce]

22 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Sadly, there is a lot of "I not a Trump supporter and so more intelligent than you" attitude. These supremacists annoy me.

Perhaps if an intelligent argument were presented in favor of Trump the attitude would change.

 

[pedro01]

12 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

As suggested elsewhere how about voting in secret to enable votes of conscience, rather than along party lines.

 

Pretty sure that wouldn't make them impartial

 

Plus - if it was done in secret with the current rabble, how could they be rewarded for their vote?

[Surelynot]

To be fair.....in the case of Trump you don't need any news outlets or political pundits.......just listen to Trump and look at his policies and actions....that should be more than enough for anyone to form the considered opinion that he is totally unfit to be a US president.