London murder case triggers wave of grief, rage over threats to women

[stevenl]

9 minutes ago, kingdong said:

I too decline to give away any details of my personal past,too many sad bitter people with nothing better to do on tv and other forums for that matter,forums can be of value for amusement and information,but you,ve got to sort through a lot of chaff before you find any wheat.

For once I'll agree with you.

[jak2002003]

This is not about dangers for women. This is about a human being getting murdered. 

 

More men are murdered than women. It's dangers for all people from murderers....does not matter what sex or race they are. 

 

Shame a few men hating people are turning it into a media attack on innocent males of the same species.

 

[onebir]

On 3/12/2021 at 5:42 PM, BangkokReady said:

As we have seen already, they simply say "men are the problem".  Such people don't want to fix anything, otherwise they wouldn't lump all men in together.  The would focus on violence, rather than males.

There is the notion of 'toxic masculinity', but 'toxic' is apparently a nuance too far for most...

[Chomper Higgot]

5 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

This is not about dangers for women. This is about a human being getting murdered. 

 

More men are murdered than women. It's dangers for all people from murderers....does not matter what sex or race they are. 

 

Shame a few men hating people are turning it into a media attack on innocent males of the same species.

 

This is about a woman being murdered by a male police officer.

 

 

 

 

[OswaldBastable]

43 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

This is about a woman being murdered by a male police officer.

An elite police officer from a group of specialists (equivalent to the American Secret Service) who would normally be expected to carry concealed guns every day and protect the highest and mightiest in the world. A police officer who would have been recruited as an ex army or special fast track career officer,  then passed the tightest of security, background and psychological checks. This has got to be the worst of embarrassments for the police and the government in modern times, it's like the plot of a far fetched thriller. I'm surprised this problem was ever allowed to be aired, and even more surprised it hasn't already gone away.

Edited March 14, 2021 by OswaldBastable

[Sujo]

13 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

And don't forget many of the cases of women raping men....that go unreported. 

If they are unreported how do you know there are many?

[Kwasaki]

10 hours ago, Surelynot said:

Why would I not imagine it could be the other way around? What a stupid comment to make..........I was single dad of four children aged of 4 to 14 until the final one went to University......so wind your neck .......I probably have significantly more life experience than you will ever have.

There you go again assuming about someones experienced.

Seen many in your positon I used to help in that kind of care situation.

So you have said something of interest instead of baiting well done

[Kwasaki]

7 hours ago, kingdong said:

If a male is a victim is a victim of domestic violence and defends himself hes a wife beater, if he do,es nothing hes a wimp,bit of a no win.

Yes situations can be very complicated and many don't know how to deal with it in the beginning, denial to oneself, embarrassment, shame all play a part.

As probably already said men don't report in many cases and many women don't report either..

[Kwasaki]

51 minutes ago, Sujo said:

If they are unreported how do you know there are many?

How is it known if it unreported, well not all reports are given out to media it usually comes from surveys as in this case. 

[JackGats]

21 hours ago, Surelynot said:

Don't supposed it crossed your mind the horrendous situation some mothers might find themselves in...unsupported, caring for kids.....looking after a home...an abusive, violent partner.......mother stuck at home with the kids 24/7.......swap all out all the men for women and see how many kids get murdered.

First, abortion was taken out of the statute book so that women would cease to be accountable for tens of thousands of murders each year.

Second, women murder kids often but their murders never make it to the courts because i the murderess is considered unaccountable because of mental illness. Quote: "no woman in her right mind would do a thing like that". Consequence: women do "things like that" all the time and never go to jail. Nor does their crimes get reported as crime, hence the statistics showing few crimes committed by women. 

If crimes committed by a demographics never get prosecuted or reported as crimes, no wonder that demographics is considered unprone to crime.

[OswaldBastable]

11 minutes ago, JackGats said:

Consequence: women do "things like that" all the time and never go to jail. Nor does their crimes get reported as crime, hence the statistics showing few crimes committed by women. 

I'm not sure I agree with you, but I do find it a bit odd that the woman arrested along with the policeman is out on bail. Presumably a female accomplice to murder isn't considered worth keeping in custody.

[JackGats]

10 minutes ago, OswaldBastable said:

I'm not sure I agree with you, but I do find it a bit odd that the woman arrested along with the policeman is out on bail. Presumably a female accomplice to murder isn't considered worth keeping in custody.

Many crimes are committed in tandem by men and women, but whenever a man is available to shoulder all the blame, he does. The woman is considered as having been per se "forced" or at the very least "influenced" by the man. A good example is drugs. Drugs found on couples are always considered as having been bought by the man. 

The woman in the couple or the criminal gang becomes a crown witness from day one.

Sometimes Society goes a step further and decriminalises the female part in the crime, like in prostitution where "pimps" or "clients" get prosecuted instead of the woman. If you come to think of it, it's like buying drugs is a crime but selling the drugs is ok.

[OswaldBastable]

Just now, JackGats said:

Many crimes are committed in tandem by men and women, but whenever a man is available to shoulder all the blame, he does.

You may be right, I'd never thought of it that way.

It does appear women spend less (if any) time in jail than men for similar offences.

Edited March 14, 2021 by OswaldBastable

[JackGats]

22 minutes ago, OswaldBastable said:

You may be right, I'd never thought of it that way.

It does appear women spend less (if any) time in jail than men for similar offences.

It is called the sentencing gap (apart from the fact that women's prisons are more like 3-star hotels compared to men's prisons which are more like death camps).

Instances of this are all over the place if you don't refuse to see it.

Look how long it took the US justice to arrest Ghislaine Maxwell. Epstein got killed within days.

[Sujo]

1 hour ago, OswaldBastable said:

I'm not sure I agree with you, but I do find it a bit odd that the woman arrested along with the policeman is out on bail. Presumably a female accomplice to murder isn't considered worth keeping in custody.

Depends on what she is charged with and whether public safety is an issue.

People charged with murder do sometimes get bail.

[car720]

On 3/12/2021 at 8:09 PM, KannikaP said:

https://www.historytoday.com/archive/months-past/ruth-ellis-executed

 

but they have learned since then.  Now they don't get caught or they get some stupid man to do it for them.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, OswaldBastable said:

I'm not sure I agree with you, but I do find it a bit odd that the woman arrested along with the policeman is out on bail. Presumably a female accomplice to murder isn't considered worth keeping in custody.

Where is your evidence that she was an accomplice to murder?

The police have stated a woman was arrested, bailed and released, no mention at all of her being an accomplice to anything.

[Kwasaki]

2 hours ago, JackGats said:

First, abortion was taken out of the statute book so that women would cease to be accountable for tens of thousands of murders each year.

Second, women murder kids often but their murders never make it to the courts because i the murderess is considered unaccountable because of mental illness. Quote: "no woman in her right mind would do a thing like that". Consequence: women do "things like that" all the time and never go to jail. Nor does their crimes get reported as crime, hence the statistics showing few crimes committed by women. 

If crimes committed by a demographics never get prosecuted or reported as crimes, no wonder that demographics is considered unprone to crime.

Many here only rely on TV or media or there confused. 

Thinking out the box is not allowed. ????????????

[Kwasaki]

Heard on LBC today that the woman top police woman in charge has be told to resign, can any women tell me the sense in that. 

A woman was shouting very loud at a banned memorial gathering that something has to be done. 

A woman in the house of lords commented men should be kept in house after 6 o/c pm. 

That should do the trick. ????????????????????????????????????????

[jak2002003]

11 hours ago, Sujo said:

If they are unreported how do you know there are many?

If you are really interested a quick search on the bnet will show how this is a real problem and society turns it into a joke for a man to be raped by a woman.  There are groups and support for victims and a huge problem with men feeling ashamed, embarrassed and not able to report it when it's happened to them. 

 

For a man to say they have been raved or abused by a woman has huge social stigma attached to it. So victims just keep quiet.

 

 

Edited March 14, 2021 by jak2002003