polpott Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Just now, Guderian said: Did they pick up a plane-load of domestic Thai passengers in Bangkok who wanted to fly to Phuket? If so, who's at the bigger risk, the Thais from the viruses still carried by the vaccinated Germans, or the Germans from the viruses carried by the unvaccinated Thais living in our new Covid hotspot of Krung Thep, lol? In reality neither. Vaccinated people can't catch Covid so can't pass it on. Equally, an unvaccinated person with Covid can't pass it on to a vaccinated person. A vaccinated person passing it on to another vaccinated person has more chance of winning the lottery. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzzz Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 2 hours ago, British Bulldog said: I wonder how many establishments will be open in Phuket to receive the '16' tourist ! It would be like an auction trying seduce one or all into your; Restaurant, Bar, show place .... ???? there is plenty open here an if anyone is lucky enough to travel to phuket they will 100% enjoy their trip FYI< was in Phuket town this morning and dam, was it crowded on the roads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 3 hours ago, elgenon said: Let's hear from these plucky tourists about their fantastic experiences! Can Thai Visa get statements from them? : ) Are there any investigative journalists on this website? Why do we only hear from the gov't? 'Investigative Journalism'....in Thailand.....don't make me laugh ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunBENQ Posted April 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, webfact said: on Flight TG912 from Frankfurt. The plane initially landed in Bangkok with 130 tourists on board, before continuing to Phuket. Completely against well reputed sources (flightstats, flightradar24). Departed April 2, arrived April 3: flight nr. 921 (not 912, can't be found). nonstop FRA - HKT (not Bangkok, BKK). Then continue same plane/flight nr. to BKK. https://www.flightstats.com/v2/flight-tracker/TG/921?year=2021&month=4&date=2&flightId=1057411644 https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/tg921#2745989b (actual depart/arrival times differ for whatever reason) Edited April 5, 2021 by KhunBENQ 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave moir Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 5 hours ago, Olivie said: They were 13 tourists in the first flight from Frankfurt. TAT already announced they will spend each 1.264.000 baht per day. Each tourist will spend 1 million 264 thousand baht per day!!!! ???????? Really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Susco Posted April 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 5, 2021 36 minutes ago, polpott said: Vaccinated people can't catch Covid so can't pass it on. You seem to know it better, again, than CDC or the vaccine manufacturers https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinated-people.html The risks of SARS-CoV-2 infection in fully vaccinated people cannot be completely eliminated as long as there is continued community transmission of the virus. Vaccinated people could potentially still get COVID-19 and spread it to others. https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid-vaccine-moderna-pfizer-transmission-disease Because some vaccinated people can still get infected, the CDC and other public health agencies have recommended that people who have gotten their shots continue to wear masks in public and take other precautions to avoid spreading the virus. Data from Israel does suggest that the Pfizer vaccine might block transmission of the virus (SN: 2/12/21). Unvaccinated people produce 2.58 to 4.5 times more virus than vaccinated people do, researchers report March 29 in Nature Medicine. Those data show vaccinated people have a lower “viral load” and are less likely to pass the coronavirus to others if they do become infected, but the effect is not as strong as might be hoped to truly limit transmission, Kilpatrick says. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paiman Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 The butchers are waiting. New normal. Bend over and cough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 I wonder who benefits from the remaining 114 "Frankfurters"...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Muzzique Posted April 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Susco said: 1 hour ago, polpott said: In reality neither. Vaccinated people can't catch Covid so can't pass it on. Equally, an unvaccinated person with Covid can't pass it on to a vaccinated person. Incorrect. Vaccination does not prevent you from catching or transmitting COVID. It simply prepares your body to react quickly to a repeat infection by leaving detectors in your blood to restart the immune system should the virus be recognised again. After infections or vaccination has triggered the immune response and beaten the infection your body leaves low levels of detectors in the blood normal consisting of Antibodies plus B and T cells. How long the body continues to produce these detectors depends on a number of factors. Could be a few months , years or longer. If the virus appears again in a form these small scale detectors recognise then this will trigger a very fast immune response as your body already knows which defences to power up to beat it. But you need to be reinfected to trigger the response and there is a chance that while your bodies immune response is powering back up that the virus gets enough of a foothold to make you infectious. That is not known about COVID. You will normally be totally unaware that anything is going on as these defences are powering up and down all the time. It's a very simplistic overview but Vaccines don't give you Teflon and Kevlar coated skin. Edited April 5, 2021 by Muzzique 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xonax Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 13 tourists won´t make much noise in Bangla Road and the rest of the island. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dialemco Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Such a reception party is enough to discourage tourism. Better wait for arrivals without need to quarantine hopefully next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Pie 47 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 7 hours ago, Albert Zweistein said: Big profit flying 16 pax BKK - HKT. Oh they are bankrupt already ? This flight would have been Lufthansa and not Thai Airways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazauz Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 I was supprised since Germany is on a full lockdown and lockdowned for a reason. In France no fly international is in force. So I find it a little dangerous and quite contrary to a real lockdown. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultName Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 13, that's almost a bar-load! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stigar Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 I arrived from norwat the 30th march with qatar airways.There was about 30 passengers to Doha.From Doha to bangkok it was just 17 passangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dialemco Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Believe this must have been a one way repatriation flight. German borders are presently closed and any returning German nationals are required to quarantine upon arrival in Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, Dazauz said: Germany is on a full lockdown Not really full. There is big excitement about a large number of Germans going to Mallorca (Spain) currently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Dialemco said: Believe this must have been a one way repatriation flight. German borders are presently closed and any returning German nationals are required to quarantine upon arrival in Germany Wrong as wrong can be. Land borders never been closed totally. Just some selected borders/checkpoints with extra requirements. Flights to Spain and other countries e.g. no problem. No general quarantine. Selective depending on country of departure. What you describe is the pipe dream of Ms. Merkel during her last months (lame duck). Edited April 5, 2021 by KhunBENQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickymouse1 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Initially the flight had 130 TOURUSTS. ARRIVED IN PHUKET 3 LOCAL THAIS 13 PASSENGERS OR TOURISTS? Can you give the break down of those 130? How many are coming for real holiday and for how many days ? If I have a job and taking holiday my company will not allow me more than 3 solid weeks at one go without good reason. 2 weeks out of 4 will be ok. Now ,I wait the answers. Regards from N Borneo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) Germany has tons of restrictions for ENTRY to the country. Thailand is on a low risk list, little to no requirements for Germans to enter from Thailand. I don't find a chapter about leaving the country. Practically this is controlled by the entry regulations of the destination country (as Thailand in this case). Those Germans who were locked up behind the wall for about 30 years would react very sensitive! ENTRY: https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/en/coronavirus/2317268 Quote General Entry restrictions For Germany, travel restrictions apply for entry from a large number of countries. These are issued by the Federal Ministry of the Interior, Building and Community. Please check with the Federal Ministry of the Interior, Building and Community (BMI) prior to your trip to find out what regulations apply specifically with regard to the country from which you plan to enter Germany. In principle, entry is possible from: EU member states states associated with Schengen: Iceland, Norway, Switzerland and Liechtenstein Other countries, from which entry is possible due to the epidemiological situation assessment by the EU. Entry from any other country is only possible in exceptional cases and is conditional on there being urgent need. Edited April 5, 2021 by KhunBENQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, mickymouse1 said: Can you give the break down of those 130? How many are coming for real holiday and for how many days ? If I have a job and taking holiday my company will not allow me more than 3 solid weeks at one go without good reason. 2 weeks out of 4 will be ok. I can't breakdown. But agree that these will unlikely be two/three week tourists. Many Germans who came here earlier through the full quarantine were pensioners, long stayers (snowbirds 3 to 6 months). Some with family here, being locked out from their house, car, bank account! No job, just money ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mywayboy Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Guderian said: Did they pick up a plane-load of domestic Thai passengers in Bangkok who wanted to fly to Phuket? If so, who's at the bigger risk, the Thais from the viruses still carried by the vaccinated Germans, or the Germans from the viruses carried by the unvaccinated Thais living in our new Covid hotspot of Krung Thep, lol? Ahhh! Lucky 13 plenty of food there to save Phuket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogfish180 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Flight initially landed in Bangkok with 130 "Tourists" on board. How do they know they are tourists? My betting is very few are tourists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 6 hours ago, miamiman123 said: Yep that’ll do it Thailand saved 14 Germans Be fair that's at least 140 sales of beach towels , and 42 hotel chairs covered 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KannikaP Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 40 minutes ago, dogfish180 said: Flight initially landed in Bangkok with 130 "Tourists" on board. How do they know they are tourists? My betting is very few are tourists. From Khun Benq 3 hours ago. Completely against well reputed sources (flightstats, flightradar24). Departed April 2, arrived April 3: flight nr. 921 (not 912, can't be found). nonstop FRA - HKT (not Bangkok, BKK). Then continue same plane/flight nr. to BKK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumarianson Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Not all tourists, returnees! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumarianson Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Not all tourists, returnees! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoComment Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Germany has possibly the worst Covid infections in Europe. Testing has to improve worldwide before the tourism industry recovers. Thailand should consider injection of it's own souls before worrying about tourism. Without the hard working people of Thailand there cannot be a tourism industry. One step at a time. I just wish the people at the very very top of the tree would get involved, within a 24 hour period there would be a big turnaround. Or is it just me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, NoComment said: Germany has possibly the worst Covid infections in Europe. Testing has to improve worldwide before the tourism industry recovers. Thailand should consider injection of it's own souls before worrying about tourism. Without the hard working people of Thailand there cannot be a tourism industry. One step at a time. I just wish the people at the very very top of the tree would get involved, within a 24 hour period there would be a big turnaround. Or is it just me? It's not just you. Unfortunately it is all about the money, tourism dollars are easy takings for the government once the spigot turns on, unlike imports and exports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoYai Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, webfact said: The plane initially landed in Bangkok with 130 tourists on board, before continuing to Phuket. Interesting - I was wondering how travel to Phuket will take place when area quarantine begins on 1 July. Will it be direct flights only or will transit be allowed between your international flight landing at Suvarnabhumi and the domestic flight to Phuket? If so, will those domestic flights have some form of segregation between domestic and international passengers? What if the domestic flight is from Don Mueang? Thai Airways may be prepared to multi-stop, I doubt many other airlines will. I don't remember seeing anything about permitted types of travel when the announcement regarding area quarantine was made - anyone know? Edited April 5, 2021 by KhaoYai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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