Moderna may be worth holding out for as there is news that current testing suggests that a 'tweaked' version is proving effective against variants.

These guys just can't get out of their own way, can they?

 

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profanity removed

53 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

3,000 ~ 4,000 is a lot less than I was expecting (6,500 - 10,000 all in).

 

It will be, by the time you've had two and a booster

12 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

With any luck and the onset of vaccination passports they will be prevented from international travel. 

 

I for one will be quite happy if the Anti-vaxxers remove themselves from the pool of international travel. 

 

We’ll come across far fewer nutters in Thailand !!! ????

 

 

If they don't eventually get jabbed it quite possibly could be they remove themselves from the gene pool of life entirely.

12 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

I wonder who might have sown those seeds of division ?

Sorry, it wasn't me!

1 hour ago, Bob4u said:

Hi  , received 2 Moderna shots for absolutely free in USA .

 

First shot only arm pain 

2nd Shot was slightly ill with a mild reaction for a day.

 

2 weeks later tested positive for Covid19 anti-bodies.

 

 

 

2 weeks later you have not tested positive for Covid19 anti-bodies, but for Covid19 spike protein anti-bodies.

1 hour ago, overherebc said:

If expats have to register then fix the system to accept passport details.

One has to wonder whose kid fresh out of college got the contract to produce these government department websites and Apps

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Even so, he expected that PHA member hospitals would charge a total of 3,000 baht to administer the complete two dose set. 

Here is a guy who is really in touch with the PHA membership.

Not

Bets on whether the price will be significantly more or less than 3,000B when it finally comes available? 

21 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

Just a lot of conspiracist theories out there in the USA right now. Very divided.

 

I find it's always good to hear both sides of the coin, then one make up their own mind, suffice to say it would be worrying if it was all one sided, the governments side, you know the ones who are mostly in bed with the agricultural and big pharma industries, they are all corporations, governments included, not saying Covid 19 isn't real.

 

Interesting documentaries on Netflix, one I can think of is What the Health. be warned, it's an eye opener and is backed up with lots of evidence from leading professionals in their respective fields, millions of $'s in sponsorship to organisations like the Heart foundation, the Diabetes foundation and so on to get them to advise us what they want us to eat which is not proven to be good for us, it's actually the opposite, then you have millions in donations to politicians/campaigns to buy their politicians, with laws protecting the corporations against those speaking up, both industries working hand in hand to make billions of $'s while most of us know, know different, would we call this documentary a "conspiracy theory", best you watch it and make up your own mind.

 

But it's always good to get as much information as you can to make an informed decision, conspiracy theorist can say what they like, but when you see, hear and do enough of your own research, you should be able to make an informed decision, that said, lots of labelled "conspiracy theorist" of the past, pre Covid have been right, so it can't be all one sided in my opinion, sure there are conspiracy theorists out there, there is also misinformation from governments, knowing who to believe is key.    

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2 minutes ago, inThailand said:

Bets on whether the price will be significantly more or less than 3,000B when it finally comes available? 

 20 to 1 it's 3,000 for the 1st jab, plus Dr fee, nurse fee, admin fee, and 5,000 baht for the 2nd shot, plus Dr Fee, nurse fee, and admin fee, total range 9,000 to 10,000 baht.

 

Long live the baht and farang who can afford it of course ????

 

33 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

No telling, but there is an anti no jab movement going on in the USA now.

Is "anti no jab" pro jab then?

Great news. I'm happy to pay the 3,000 THB. I don't feel healthcare should be free to none nationals. 

 

 

2 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

 20 to 1 it's 3,000 for the 1st jab, plus Dr fee, nurse fee, admin fee, and 5,000 baht for the 2nd shot, plus Dr Fee, nurse fee, and admin fee, total range 9,000 to 10,000 baht.

 

Long live the baht and farang who can afford it of course ????

 

20-1 so you don't think your statement is likely. Why write it then? 

1 hour ago, keith101 said:

Common Side Effects from Moderna Vaccine.

The most commonly reported side effects, which typically lasted several days, were pain at the injection site, tiredness, headache, muscle pain, chills, joint pain, swollen lymph nodes in the same arm as the injection, nausea and vomiting, and fever. Of note, more people experienced these side effects after the second dose than after the first dose, so it is important for vaccination providers and recipients to expect that there may be some side effects after either dose, but even more so after the second dose.

This info is from the US FDA .

Innocent like any other vaccine. Don’t think this will convince the anti-vaxxers but ok. 

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5 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

Long live

Very good......555

5 minutes ago, bradiston said:

Is "anti no jab" pro jab then?

Two minuses make a plus......my old Maths teacher said.

4 minutes ago, GlassWayOverHalfFull said:

20-1 so you don't think your statement is likely. Why write it then? 

maybe meant 20-1 on....or 1-20.

50 minutes ago, hioctane said:

 

Why would Moderna have an issue dealing with private enterprise? They are a private company. They will sell to anyone with cash. 

Legal liability can flow upwards through the chain of supply contracts from the hospitals to the distributors and ultimately to the manufacturer. Having the government in the contractual chain can make it more difficult for someone to pursue a products liability suit against the manufacturer. 

59 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

Even more obscene. What will it  be another 10k?

whatever it is, you will pay it ???? Vaccines are being signed off by Governments for emergency use only with the vaccine companies indemnified against risk. If they venture into private sales and you choose this route then it is only right that you should pay the insurance to cover the potential of you suing at a later date for side effects. ????

11 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Two minuses make a plus......my old Maths teacher said.

So how come two wrongs don't make a right? Just kidding. But I'm still in the dark. Is the US "anti no jab movement" pro or anti jab? Is there an anti pro no jab movement too?

1 minute ago, bradiston said:

 Is there an anti pro no jab movement too?

Just got to be.......if not, let's start one....555

2 minutes ago, bradiston said:

So how come two wrongs don't make a right?

Reminded me of a Paul McCartney song about him and JohnLennon......."how did to rights make a wrong".

So, Moderna inoculation 3000Baht, two jabs.

 

I have to do 11 days quarantine  at ASQ and an extra virus test cost me 6000Baht.

Highway robbery mugging. Unbelievable scams. 

Wife and son are the reason why I return.        

Interesting.  One wonders why there sits an importer between the Moderna company and the Government Pharmaceutical Organization.  On Wikipedia I read "The GPO gives Thailand significant leverage in its price negotiations with foreign drug suppliers."  But they cannot import the Moderna vaccin themselves directly?

Once again corruption certain people filling their pockets  

34 minutes ago, GlassWayOverHalfFull said:

20-1 so you don't think your statement is likely. Why write it then? 

 

I like to bet big, so the bigger the odds the better the chances for this one when it comes home.

I will wait until everyone is vaccinated, so I don't have to pay.

 

Profit.

2 hours ago, Bob4u said:

Hi  , received 2 Moderna shots for absolutely free in USA .

 

First shot only arm pain 

2nd Shot was slightly ill with a mild reaction for a day.

 

2 weeks later tested positive for Covid19 anti-bodies.

 

I'll just leave that little cookie right here for y'all

 

 

 

 

So you thought you couldn't get Covid after 2 jabs ??  Really?

 

 

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/945798?src=wnl_tp10n_210506_mscpedit&uac=267552BT&impID=3355743&faf=1

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

online tools

 

Pulls no punches, but a fair colloquial summary of the people in charge of this fandango! I don't know if it works in American English!