ikke1959 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, robblok said: So it does not look so bad, so the Thai government looks less like a fool then they are. That is not hard to explain. Prison cases are a big risk unless nobody moves in or out (but people do guards and even prisoners that are released). So these people come from a high risk area into the normal population. You think that is not a risk ? I don't talk about the risk. In my opinion the situation in Thailand is worse than the Government says.. but because the cases are rising they don't want create panic, so they have now a kind of scapegoat to split the numbers of prisons.. But there are a lot of prisons and Bangkok will not be only ones 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Olmate said: Today as part of daily update briefing acc. to Pattaya News yesterday. I'll believe it when I see it, which will be about 12 O'clock today if the Pattaya News is correct, I should imagine.???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, robblok said: So it does not look so bad, so the Thai government looks less like a fool then they are. That is not hard to explain. Prison cases are a big risk unless nobody moves in or out (but people do guards and even prisoners that are released). So these people come from a high risk area into the normal population. You think that is not a risk ? They did the same with the Samut Sakhon outbreak, they split the numbers into migrants and normal infections just because the migrants were locked up in their factories, fools nobody 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikke1959 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, robblok said: No they are not, but you still don't get it. Now it is known it was a risk before but an outbreak in a prison multiplies like crazy and has the potential to infect far more people then in areas where you can isolate. Have you seen the overcrowding in Thai prisons. So you got a hot spot with people moving in and out and unless they get it under control more and more of these people will infect people outside the prison system. So stop acting like the people in the prison system are on some deserted island with no contact or way to infect others. The more people are infected there the larger the chance of it being spread from there then it is now. So unless these prison numbers go down its a risk and a problem. Now than we agree... there will be a lot more infections in the coming week to come....because they wanted to keep silent that there were 2835 cases already but because it came in the media they had count them and now there will more and more and more just as you said.. and overcrowded prisons will not bring the numbers down easily.. This is only Bangkok whta we here, but what about the other prisons in all provinces?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2021 The Thai Ministry of Public Health is again warning that Bangkok and surrounding provinces where the COVID outbreak is most severe are running short on ICU beds to treat the most seriously ill patients, with perhaps a five-day supply at current rates. In a televised interview, a senior official said the current rate of around 1,000 new COVID cases per day in Bangkok is generating the need for about 30+ new ICU bed assignments daily, based on a 3 percent share requiring ICU care. That is quickly draining the hospital system's supply of available beds. Officials have been trying to add new ICU beds and otherwise manage hospital bed allocations. Government officials made a similar public warning last month when the volume of COVID patients in critical condition was half of the current level, which is 1,200 plus nationwide with about half of those in the Bangkok region, but then seemed to walk back that warning in the following days. Earlier this week, a government spokeswoman said the hospital system in Bangkok still had enough capacity to handle the volume of seriously ill patients. Even though the volume of new COVID cases in Bangkok has not been increasing markedly, ranging between 500 and 1,000 per day, those are new and additional cases each and every day. Whereas once a COVID patient requires ICU hospitalization, they're likely to be occupying that bed space for an extended period of time, even as new patients keep coming daily. In its most recent report today, the MoPH said it had 2,256 new COVID cases nationwide requiring hospitalization of some type, but released as recovered only 1,701 patients. Many of those have little to no symptoms, but the share with moderate to severe symptoms has been growing. Graphic shown during the MoPH television interview showing the drain and strain on ICU hospital beds in Bangkok and surrounding provinces. The MoPH chart below shows the rising numbers of severe symptom and moderate symptom cases in hospitals during the past two weeks for Bangkok and surrounding provinces: 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhacsyn Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said: How do you explain the level of attention given to save the lives of one group compared to the other group because if the goal was to not spare any expense or effort to reduce deaths in one group and not the other which is what I compare when comparing the two I don't compare to say one is worse than the other but only to point out the differences in the level of effort to reduce deaths in one group and not the other.Some say it's the potential of one group to kill more in a short period of time but as one group will fade into insignificance and the other will remain for a very very long time and will eventually far out number the other but be cause one is worse than the other right now then we don't have do anything to save the lives of those in the other group.Road deaths are only one example as we could use the figures of people dying because they don't have clean water to drink and the numbers are staggering yet you only worry about covid deaths because you have the benefit of clean water to drink and enough money to weather side effects of restriction that many don't have. https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/country-health-profile/thailand A few more examples in the attachment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, Rhacsyn said: https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/country-health-profile/thailand A few more examples in the attachment Because none of those health issues can wreak disaster the way a pandemic does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ExpatOilWorker Posted May 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Patong2021 said: I think english have good saying - to defecate otherwise to get off the potty. Thailand is taking 1/2 measure that are not effective and that prolong the misery. Either do proper restriction of activity for 30 days with testing and vaccinating in hot zones or just stop this nonsense of threatening beach goers for not wearing mask, or small social bubble gathering. The government wants to do a little bit of this and a little bit of that, and all it does it make a bigger. Thailand has tried to handle the virus on the cheap, now it is paying the price. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Latest trends in daily COVID case counts for Thailand since April 1, 2021: In the chart below, the blue sections indicate self referred cases. The tan portion are those found via outreach testing. And the gray portion are those found among prisoners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhacsyn Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 50 minutes ago, placeholder said: Because none of those health issues can wreak disaster the way a pandemic does. Globally agree totally. Was simply adding alternatives for the point made by the OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 https://twitter.com/SaksithCNA/status/1393077551476756480 #COVID19TH UPDATE (14 May 21) - 2,256* new cases (96,050 total) - 1,701 more discharged (62,316) - 33,186 active cases (1,203 critical, 408 of them on ventilators) - 30 more deaths (548) *183 of them found in prisons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) The Ministry of Public Health released a report on its COVID outreach testing in the Bangkok area as of May 12, showing an overall 4.95 percent rate of positive tests, 359 positive results out of 7,247 tests. Edited May 14, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 hour ago, ikke1959 said: As I said yesterday already.. today around 2000 new cases , but the prisons will make it look worse... So don't worry they are in prison and no danger but we can continue with around 2000 a day Attention everyone. We are in the company of a genius. Seems like >2000 a day or around 60,000+ a month is fine so now is not the time to be concerned. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1393079643587026945 Since 1st April, there have been 67,187 cases & 454 deaths (0.68%). There are now 34,890 patients in care. 1,203 are in a serious condition and 408 (+2) are on ventilators. Yesterday, 21,302 people received their first dose of vaccine and 63,067 their second dose #Thailand Edited May 14, 2021 by anchadian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) Read more: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thailands-overcrowded-prison-system-a-covid-19-timebomb/ Alarm is growing in Thailand after the Department of Corrections revealed that 2,835 COVID-19 cases had been found inside two major Bangkok prisons. Critics are questioning the Department of Corrections’ measures to prevent the spread of the virus, while human rights groups are calling for inmates in “unnecessary custody” to be released. Ten leaders of the anti-establishment movement are among the almost 3,000 people to have caught the virus behind bars, according to media reports. So far, three of these activists have been granted temporary release. Edited May 14, 2021 by anchadian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RichardColeman Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 4 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: Well how do you like them apples. Now we will have daily prison numbers as well. Wait for it, they will start separating foreign prisoners from Thai prisoners soon in the numbers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) A government spokesman said the government is considering adjusting the current restriction on sit-down dining at restaurants in Bangkok and adjoining provinces, with a further update expected to be given in coming days. Also considering reducing and revising the current lesser COVID restrictions in the number of outlying provinces with lower COVID infection rates. Edited May 14, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: A government spokesman said the government is considering adjusting the current restriction on sit-down dining at restaurants in Bangkok and adjoining provinces, with a further update expected to be given in coming days. https://twitter.com/SaksithCNA/status/1393083979134210049 #UPDATE: @thaimoph is mulling - IT’S STILL A DRAFT - to allow in-dining again: In “dark red” zones (incl BK), eateries would open with 25% capacity but only until 9pm and still no alcohol (take-away until 11pm). In “red zones”, it’ll be until 11pm. No decision *when* yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olmate Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, FarFlungFalang said: I'll believe it when I see it, which will be about 12 O'clock today if the Pattaya News is correct, I should imagine.???? Seems tomorrow some relaxations may be announced.Maybe! Edited May 14, 2021 by Olmate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1393083831876419593 Moderna is expected to arrive in October, the Private Hospital Association said on Friday. #โควิด #โควิด19 #โควิดวันนี้ #โควิด19วันนี้ #วัคซีนโควิด #วัคซีนโควิด19 #WhatsHappeninglnThailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 25 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: The Ministry of Public Health released a report on its COVID outreach testing in the Bangkok area as of May 12, showing an overall 4.95 percent rate of positive tests, 359 positive results out of 7,247 tests. A 5% positivity rate is consistent with a no-growth scenario, as we have seen for the last 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatOilWorker Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Olmate said: Seems tomorrow some relaxations may be announced.Maye? Let's open up schools again also so we can really light a fire on this Covid thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Where can find the numbers for all the provinces ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Hagler Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 What about that prison in Songklha that had a hundred odd cases? That has gone mighty quiet. Seems impossible that they wouldn’t be in the same boat as those Bangkok prisons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: A government spokesman said the government is considering adjusting the current restriction on sit-down dining at restaurants in Bangkok and adjoining provinces, with a further update expected to be given in coming days. Also considering reducing and revising the current lesser COVID restrictions in the number of outlying provinces with lower COVID infection rates. I welcome it but its a big strange given that in some provinces you can't even have friends at home. What makes a restaurant different. Besides the fact that the rich people own the chains that are now making a loss. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 20 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: A government spokesman said the government is considering adjusting the current restriction on sit-down dining at restaurants in Bangkok and adjoining provinces, with a further update expected to be given in coming days. Also considering reducing and revising the current lesser COVID restrictions in the number of outlying provinces with lower COVID infection rates. Outlying provinces is perhaps understandable, but bangkok? have the case numbers really been THAT good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Ministry of Public Health daily update on how Thailand is faring versus world countries and its regional peer countries, ranked by total COVID cases since the start of the pandemic. Thailand currently ranks 94th among 200+ world countries. https://www.facebook.com/informationcovid19/photos/a.106455480972785/324890092462655/?type=3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 https://twitter.com/The_PattayaNews/status/1393086744426254340 7mReplying to @The_PattayaNews We do not know if Chonburi will stay "Deep Red" that will be decided over the weekend, as they are still debating the measures internally according to spokesperson Dr. Taweesin Visanuyothin. (4) 7m They did state they are considering lessening some of the provinces in "deep red" zones, without stating specific names. It is also not clear if they approve this over the weekend when these changes would take effect. We will keep you updated. (END) #Thailand · 12m Update on restrictions and measures from the Center for Covid-19 Situation Administration in Bangkok: Final decisions not made yet, including zone color coding. Will likely be tomorrow. They did state they are considering for deep red (1) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, robblok said: I welcome it but its a big strange given that in some provinces you can't even have friends at home. What makes a restaurant different. Besides the fact that the rich people own the chains that are now making a loss. Quite. These days if I want to have a chat with friends we meet up at a coffee shop instead of my house. stellar thinking by the authorities. if the issue of meeting a few people is so important, then you have to stop it completely and close anywhere that people might meet in groups. If it’s not so important, then why not be able to meet at home? I don’t care either way, but currently it’s farcical 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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