Justgrazing Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 9 hours ago, webfact said: nine production lots of the AstraZeneca vaccine, manufactured locally by Siam Bioscience, passed quality inspection Lucky that .. and such an auspicious figure can only auger well for the future unqualified success of the vacc' program .. No really .. .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Tomorrows headline, Anutin strikes a deal and first batch of 5 million vaccines will be shipped to another country or something along the lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patong2021 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 10 hours ago, fdsa said: exactly, If the vaccine was not inspected by Astrazeneca themselves it could mean that the vaccine was inspected by the brown envelope. Why would you expect Astrazeneca to inspect? It is not their facility and they are not in control. Siam Bioscience is providing the manufacturing facility. Oxford University has provided the formula to Astra Zeneca who in turn have licensed to Siam Bioscience and are providing scientific support and key ingredients. Manufacturing errors and quality are the responsibility of Siam Bioscience. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Credo Posted May 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Patong2021 said: Why would you expect Astrazeneca to inspect? It is not their facility and they are not in control. Siam Bioscience is providing the manufacturing facility. Oxford University has provided the formula to Astra Zeneca who in turn have licensed to Siam Bioscience and are providing scientific support and key ingredients. Manufacturing errors and quality are the responsibility of Siam Bioscience. Before they permit the name AstraZeneca on those vials, it will have to be approved by AZ. Large batches are tested for quality assurance. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted May 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2021 14 hours ago, grantbkk said: I feel exactly the same about the locally produced AZ. Has anyone seen a picture of the production facility? 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ourmanflint Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Great news. Only the filling, labelling, shipping, storing and administration to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 16 hours ago, Justgrazing said: Fanfare time .. get the trumpets out .. ( for today anyway ) Not getting my trumpet out mate. Hardly know you! Back on topic...???? Why didn't Anutin, in his (one of many) statements say that Siam BioSciences would be making an announcement soon? But why no firm numbers on doses? Anyway, seems as if this is good news...???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 19 hours ago, webfact said: Siam Bioscience has promised the Public Health Ministry that it will start delivering doses to vaccination units in June. Yet to be determined where and how much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickmondo Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 18 hours ago, bluesofa said: I'd rather see the inspection by AstraZeneca themselves. Or are they directly overseeing production and QC? exactly!!! If the Thais are inspecting this without supervision from Astrazeneca, then sorry, that is not good enough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
multatuli Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 18 hours ago, phetphet said: I think they sent some to AZ last week for testing and it was approved. what's your source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Given the facts I would assume that the THB 300 billion for the Covid-programme by the sweeties in the MOPH are in the process of being spent locally then ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenon Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Seriously, would they say anything else? That would cause loss of face. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjakob007 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 19 hours ago, bluesofa said: I'd rather see the inspection by AstraZeneca themselves. Or are they directly overseeing production and QC? Moderna approval took months? how come this can be done in 3 days? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveHillWanderer Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 19 hours ago, bluesofa said: I'd rather see the inspection by AstraZeneca themselves. Or are they directly overseeing production and QC? The inspection by AstraZeneca, on batches sent to both the UK and the US, was already done and already reported on by ThaiVisa, over a week ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surasak Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 19 hours ago, Justgrazing said: Fanfare time .. get the trumpets out .. ( for today anyway ) Good idea. Yes, get the trumpets out, blow the dust off and give them a clean, but please, no playing yet, the next hurdle will see a big downfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GroveHillWanderer Posted May 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, mjakob007 said: Moderna approval took months? how come this can be done in 3 days? It's two completely different processes. The approval of the vaccine for use involves reviewing various sorts of written documentation submitted by the company, including the published results of the clinical trials and is done by the Thai FDA. What we are talking about here is the quality testing of physical samples of the finished product, done by the Department of Medical Science. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 19 hours ago, John Drake said: Personally, I think it's better not to trust anything until the nurse is standing over you with a needle pointed at your arm. .............having had sight of the label on the bottle of vaccine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadan Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Greats news. There is always a Thai way ???? - foreigners won’t understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rookiescot Posted May 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2021 Lot of people questioning the production and quality testing of this locally produced vaccine. If you think for one second a company like Astra Zeneca would put their name on something which was not fully within tolerances then you are living in cloud cuckoo land. It will match or exceed the quality of the same vaccine produced in western labs or it will not be released for use. Its as simple as that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcet Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 20 hours ago, John Drake said: Personally, I think it's better not to trust anything until the nurse is standing over you with a needle pointed at your arm. That is only for the photo...can not be sure until injected...or jabbed if you prefer l5o5l5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveHillWanderer Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Rookiescot said: Lot of people questioning the production and quality testing of this locally produced vaccine. If you think for one second a company like Astra Zeneca would put their name on something which was not fully within tolerances then you are living in cloud cuckoo land. It will match or exceed the quality of the same vaccine produced in western labs or it will not be released for use. Its as simple as that. As I already alluded to, samples of the vacccine produced here already passed quality assurance testing by AstraZeneca in the US and Europe. Here's a link to the earlier TV report on this: https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1216539-astrazeneca’s-covid-19-vaccines-made-by-siam-bioscience-pass-quality-testing-in-europe-and-us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spilornis Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 20 hours ago, phetphet said: I think they sent some to AZ last week for testing and it was approved. Based on the Australian experience you are correct. What nobody knew is that each subsequent batch undergoes a six week approval process before release. May be a while before the trucks roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 When the nurse said it's just a little <deleted>. I wasn't sure what or who, they were referring to? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guderian Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 It's taking longer than expected because somebody has to stick a label by hand on each vial that says, "Not for farang," lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterBaker Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 21 hours ago, webfact said: He said, normally, the manufacturer sends a smaller batch of about 1 million to 2 million doses for inspection first, haha, it's not how it works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 46 minutes ago, Rookiescot said: Lot of people questioning the production and quality testing of this locally produced vaccine. If you think for one second a company like Astra Zeneca would put their name on something which was not fully within tolerances then you are living in cloud cuckoo land. It will match or exceed the quality of the same vaccine produced in western labs or it will not be released for use. Its as simple as that. Ergo why they have had the production issues causing the delay in providing the vaccine for use. Wonder how much money has possibly been lost due to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 10 hours ago, Patong2021 said: Why would you expect Astrazeneca to inspect? It is not their facility and they are not in control. Siam Bioscience is providing the manufacturing facility. Oxford University has provided the formula to Astra Zeneca who in turn have licensed to Siam Bioscience and are providing scientific support and key ingredients. Manufacturing errors and quality are the responsibility of Siam Bioscience. Have you the slightest idea how a franchise works and the damage that can be done to a brand by an uncontrolled franchisee. Think KFC or Macdonald to disabuse you of that ignorance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookiescot Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Ergo why they have had the production issues causing the delay in providing the vaccine for use. Wonder how much money has possibly been lost due to this. The delays could be for any number of reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 21 hours ago, ukrules said: Well this is good news. But wait, don't they flip flop here a lot ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keesters Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 21 hours ago, webfact said: Siam Bioscience has promised the Public Health Ministry that it will start delivering doses to vaccination units in June. June 30th, 23:59. But what year....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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